Maybe a little off topic here and I’m a noob so sorry if this is a stupid question, but why doesn’t someone or some chinamart copy a malkoff dropin?
Well, if we're gonna go there, I know your kind of people, too. Shoot the messenger combined with a persecution complex, and a dash of magical thinking ('if an idea is really neat it will work just because it would be neat if it did, so it will').
Ha, your not even making sense now.
You said, and I quote:
All I did was prove you wrong. That’s not ‘magical thinking’ Maybe next time YOU need to specify, what YOUR definition of ‘work’ means.
And ya know what, I’m done. Go ahead and reply, and try to justify what ever you want. I’m not spending the rest of my evening, arguing with you. Once again, you always got to be right, so I will NEVER win.
I’m gonna go build another 2D xml. 
have to chirp in here, this comment made me laugh!
I can’t figure out if you guys are actually fighting or not….
Look at as a very passionate exchange of personal views and opinions 
when my parents always fought when my brother and I were growing up, they would often separate … and they would lavish gifts on my brother and I, depending on who went with who. Any chance of getting some gifts here, say, an XM-L drop in for my (3) D Mag?
Malkoff’s drop-in is actually patented. Of course, that never stopped the Chinese from doing anything.
welcome to the fight Kodachrome, get a bet down!
Lol!
well, a nice member is doing a watch giveaway. Maybe thats your gift :bigsmile:
For "budget" upgrades to LED's
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/b-series/
These also work really good in those 18vdc rechargeable flashlights, they work GREAT in my porter cable light (makes sure you get the right voltage though)
But really cool on the conversion though...will the plastic switch housing handle the heat?
Not trying to jump in the argument here, but I always felt like if you put a light together, put the cells in, and clicked the switch ……if light came out the front it works. Seems simple to me. Beamshots show light on the wall. That works. 10 lumens or 1000, light is light.
I don’t know about all the math, don’t care about all the math. If light comes out the big end when when you click the little rubber thing, bingo! That’s what I’m talking about! Now, if you were expecting 1700 and got 200, somethings wrong.
Have fun with it, melt some snow or something, and build another. That’s what we’re all here for, isn’t it?
I like to use (1) 32650 Li-ion with dummy cells in either my 2 or 3 D cell Maglites. It makes them lighter and I'm not buying Alkaline batteries.
In the 2 D Maglite I just don't put in a fully charged Li-ion. I use <4V charge on the battery. So far this has worked fine after months of use. But if it burns up I don't really care either.
IMHO, for a C or D drop in to be effective and have more than minimal output it would either need to incorporate the switch module to carry heat to the shell or as with a p60 replace both the pill and the reflector with metal to do this since the focusing is not great to begin with.
I think the biggest problem is the drop-ins wind up costing as much as a new, more modern, smaller and brighter flashlight.
This is something I’ve heard time and time again regarding Mag upgrades. But in my experience, it doesn’t mean that Mag upgrades are worthless. In fact, SO much of the time, I find myself reaching for one of my Malkoff Mags rather than, say, my SC52w or EA4 XM-L2. What is it that I find better about modified Mags?
1. Runtime at high output is not thermally limited
2. Runtime is MUCH longer, especially with D cell lights
3. Compared to more modern lights, you are not as ‘stuck’ with lithium ion batteries (although you CAN use them if you choose in a Mag).
4. Easier to customize in various ways (different colors, reflectors, etc).
5. Incan mags are cheap, so if you beat up your light, you can cheaply get a new one and swap out the drop-in instead of buying a whole EA4, SC52w, etc.
6. Sometimes (many times, in fact), a physically larger light just suits me better
7. Much easier to upgrade to a newer emitter or different tint if you so choose (ever try doing this on an EA4?).
How much will u charge to build and ship one to Atlanta?
Maybe you could fit 2 or 3 7135 chips in there and run it on 3 D cells.
I AGREE, for 25 dollars there are many smaller, lighter, brighter, and more efficient lights available. The only way to modify a maglite is with free parts. Its kinda like putting a $1500 transmission in a car that you are going to sell for $800. At one time maglite was the only real light around. Good job edeekeos , i’m with you.
First off folks, I owe you all an apology, even you Comfy, for my behavior in this thread. I lost composure, and said some things that were totally uncalled for, and entirely out of place. For this, I am truly sorry. I visit this site, above all the rest, simply because it IS the most laid back. There is so much knowledge to be had here, and I hate to be the one clouding it up with bickering, and fighting. I took the first blows towards you Comfy, because you said something I didn’t quite agree with. Not your fault, your entitled to your thoughts and opinions. I need to, and WILL respect that from here on out. I was out of place by telling you to lighten up, and attacking you personally. You are smart as hell, and do some seriously insane builds. I enjoy watching them, and learning from them. I know this is just the interwebs, and everything should be taken with a pinch of salt, but I really am sorry, and do feel as though I acted childish. Oh well, ya live and ya learn, I hope you all can forgive me.
OK, onto a more positive subject. As much as I wish, I am not the one who made the drop in’s in the original post. I was merely starting a thread to see if anyone knew where I could acquire them. I personally think they are a good idea, and would like to test, and dissect them further. I did however throw one together, with parts I had lying around, and was successful in the outcome. Proving to me, that this could be a decent drop in upgrade, for someone looking for a little more output from their old beat up truck light. I personally LOVE Maglites, always have, and I have NO issues dropping money in them. However I think, at MAX, $30-40 would be all I would pay for an XML “bulb drop in.” That might be too much even. In any case, I would still like to find someone who can do these up. I would like a couple more.
Thanks everyone for maintaining positive discussion in this thread, considering all the crap. 
The problem is I see the big maglite led versions on sale often for $25. If I can’t find a decent upgrade for $15 or less and loved maglites then I would just buy the new led version when on sale instead of spending more on the old version. Heck, Home Depot has them with a free led mini version from time to time. So in my case, if I can’t find a good upgrade $15 or less, then I’m just buying a totally different light with smaller form factor and more lumens for less, cause I don’t really care much for them to begin with, just don’t won’t to see them go to waste.