Flashaholic Syndrome Immunization: I've Decided to Buy Just 1, Simple General Purpose Light, Period

First, there are many worse, more expensive and even insidious ‘hobbies’ than buying/collecting flashlights. As a guy, I understand the ‘guy thing’ to want to buy the latest and greatest flashlight for the wow factor, and from reading these and other forums, I also completely understand the fun aspect and challenge of modding lights (for the same reasons people mod their computers, cars, smart phones and whatever else they enjoy modding).

In contrast to many other activities, flashaholism is rather benign, and even looks healthy by comparison. More power to those who want to rock and roll with flashlight fever.

I came here and posted a thread two days ago soliciting advice on what would I should purchase as my first dedicated ‘true’ LED light, even if I did set out an approximate target price of $30 (give or take $10…or $15).

After reading countless threads, cruising countless forums, watching countless videos of beam shots and reviews, and generally consuming information at a rapid clip on all things flashlights, I’ve decided to nip my potential flashaholism in the bud.

I have been using a Coast G10 (the single AAA version) that a friend gave me from that free (S&H only) offer they ran. He requested 3 and told me the one he gave me was the whitest and brightest, even if it is a true budget light. I understand it’s a relatively low lumen light (32) with a single mode and a relatively old Nichia diode…but…

….to be honest, this simple, one mode, Coast G10 actually serves about 95% of my flashlight purposes. It’s compact enough to stick into the square pocket WITHIN my larger pocket on my jeans, and not even know it’s there. It’s bright enough to provide adequate light walking through heavily wooded areas with no other lighting (I’ve done this with it 3x now, with now problem), as it has a nice floody beam that illuminates a wide swath of territory in front of me. It runs on a single AAA alkaline battery, and I’m sure it will run a decently long time on it.

Now, I am planning on buying one more light, with a brighter beam, a newer and more powerful diode, and a different reflector and lens. I imagine I will use that light the other 5% to 10% of the time that the G10 won’t suffice.

I will try to keep that light as compact as possible, also (I’ve learned that the smaller things are, the more likely you’ll take them with you places), and I’ll try to get one that is powerful enough for ‘those other times’ that G10 isn’t adequate, but that doesn’t run on expensive batteries, and doesn’t cost a small fortune (maybe around that original $30 price point).

What I’ve learned is that the super powerful throwers are cool and fun, and that I could easily fall into the addiction that is flashaholism, but I’ve been down the -ism road with other things, such as watches, and like all such things, it gets to be an expensive, time consuming & obsessive activity that, for someone like me, doesn’t really carry any practical benefits (I know everyone analyzes this differently and the cost/benefit ratio works for them, and that’s great).

I am trying to simplify things in my life, reduce costs, and cut down on purchases and actually reduce things I have purchased, but rarely use, to a minimum. Minimalism has really been effective in increasing my level of happiness lately.

I completely understand everyone views this differently, and I also know there are professions where a variety of task specific flashlights are not only useful, but a necessity.

I know others derive more pleasure out of just collecting flashlights that any financial costs in doing so pales in comparison to the satisfaction they get from this pursuit.

For me, this issues boils down to the fact that I simply don’t need another time consuming, expensive pursuit, and my daily job doesn’t require me to have any specialized flashlights to do my work.

This is a great forum, by the way, with more helpful members than just about any other forum I’ve ever joined.

Sure…. keep telling yourself that…… :wink:

Bad idea… “Two is one and one is none”.

Yeah, right, one light. Wish I had your willpower. I don’t.

My thinking isn’t that different than yours. Even though I own more lights I really only use 3.

Thrunite TI which is a single AAA so similar to the Coast that you have I guess.

Zebralight H51f which is a single AA headlamp.

Ultrafire T-50 which is a single 18650 XM-L.

If you want something brighter than the 100-200 lumen you need li-ion or lithium primary batteries.

It can still be “simple”. My 18650 charger cost $8 and a pair of my 18650 batteries cost $8.

So brighter than the G10, small, around $30

I may have missed it but you didn’t say if you had a battery pref.?

Im a sucker for eagletac D25 series some of those lights will get around 30 if not a little higher $45. Great compact 18650 light D25LC2 (my edc) $49.90 coupon codes can bring that down about 5$

Fenix although I own none I’ve heard great things about E11 around $26, E21 around $35, LD10 up there, LD20 may be up your ally.

Prob my fav light is the Pelican 1920. It is a well built 2AAA that produces about 80 lumins and will run over an hour. It is about $22 at Botach with fre shipping. Since you have a AAA light already, this makes sense. You will use it and carry it when you woukd leave that big AA or CR-123 at home.

There’s nothing wrong with minimalism. That said, I , personally am a hobbyist, not a collector. I use ALL my lights, even though I don’t need nearly as many as I have.
So, you want compact,bright, small, readily available batteries, and a 20- 30 dollar price……
Hmmmm…
Fenix E11
or
Fenix E21.

That’s what I ’d go with.
Check them out, and BEST of luck with whatever you decide.

Say what? Why didn’t someone tell me this about 60 light purchases ago! I have 8 chargers and about 60 batteries but I only “need” 2 lights. Oops

I would recommend another AAA light for you. If your 32 lumen one is enough for 90% of your needs, then a simple tech boost to get a stronger one is probably all you need to REPLACE your coast and be all set. An AAA can hit 100+ lumens.

I recommend a 1xAAA keychain light. You dont even need to remember to put it in your special jeans pocket, just attach to keychain. It is lightweight and convenient. You will find that not having to remember it is really nice.

As for which one to buy, you have several options, but I recommend an XP-G emitter. An XM-L is overkill and an AAA wont be able to drive it hard enough anyways. That emitter is for bigger lights. XP-G is perfect for the AAA size, being quite efficient at lower wattage.

The keychain sized ones will be mostly Twisties if you are ok with that. You twist for them to come on and they have 3 modes…low, medium, high (usually 3 lumens, 30 lumens, 100ish lumens).

BATTERY CHOICE: I recommend the lithium ion primarys (L92 energizer) if you occasionally use the light. Otherwise use Sanyo Eneloop rechargables… always get low self discharge NiMH batteries so they dont poop out when not in use.
AVOID 18650s or lithiums. They are fine but charger costs money as do batteries and they are useless otherwise. Spend that money on a universal smart charger for AAA/AA/C/D and use rechargables for EVERYTHING you use…esp if you have any kid toys…

BRANDS:

Olight I3 AAA - 20 bucks.
4Sevens AAA - 30 bucks.
Fenix AAA - 30 bucks.
Rofis ER10 - new brand. 20 bucks.
illumina Ti - higher end. 50 bucks, 115 lumen. titanium. http://www.batteryjunction.com/ti-illuminati-ca1.html

I would just pick one that has the right features. That means the Low,Med,High modes you want (or 1 mode or 2), in the right order you want, maybe with memory, maybe a clickey instead of twisty, with or without a clip (maybe removable, maybe not).

+1 many times over

If you carry a Photon/Fauxton on keys for backup and use a portable charger instead of expecting to go get store bought for backup it really frees up a lot of much better options for that other 10%.

Not clear if you want a better small EDC to carry or a 2nd light for the other 10% of the time.

If you want the first, I’d still say look serious at the iTP options on your other thread, especially the A01 since 200 lumens and some throw will put your use up to 98+% and you won’t notice it in your pocket any more than the G10. A better light means you don’t struggle with low light when you shouldn’t. G10 becomes car, desk, or inside backup.

Otherwise, I’d get an 18650 XML in either the E1320 2100 if you want something for carry or a C8 package deal (like $23 or so for light, battery and charger) for a huge walk in the wood improvement or a P60 sized package so that you can try different drop-ins later.

i show the same kind of attitude regarding knives and multitools. i was owning 1 cheapo folding pocket knife from a local grocery discounter (ALDI/LIDL) and was happy with it except for the sharpness of the edge: it wasnt razor-sharp and didnt look perfectly geometrically shaped ground. then I proved to myself that a cheap knife doesnt mean that it has to be dull. With a 25€ (shipped) precision sharpening system i was able to sharpen all my dull knifes and make their edges look professional-looking. So why would i need or want to buy a new more expensive (say 10$+ Samrenmu or Ganso) knife if my 3€-cheapo is as sharp and functional for my needs (e.g. peeling an orange, cutting pre-sliced ham to fit the shape of my slice of bread haha)? My budget didnt allow for large expenses anyway so it was easy to nip the potential cutlerism in a bud.

(...)

However i did want --for the fun, sake and joy of it-- to buy a new multitool (to replace my superold trashy 2€-LIDL multitool) and also didnt mind buying a small cool Swiss Army Knife (they are *not* expensive imho). So after some quick research --it is way easier to identify HQ MT-ware or SAK's on the market than flashlights-- i bought 2 great new products and ever since didnt feel the desire to get involved in cutlerism or spend more time on this topic.

I am very satisfied with owning 1 cheap super sharp 3€ pocket knife, 1 bling-bling MT, and 1 SAK. No desire or need to acquire more of this kind of items. Same with you and your flashlights. You did some research, enjoyed reviews and watched videos, decided not to overdo it, limit yourself to a flexible lower budget, buy 1 (or 2 ;) ) uptodate product to crown your spent time and efforts, not get involved further than that into flashaholism, and simply move on and enjoy life.

Great decision, well done!

since you already made your decision, i dont expect you to lurk around more on this or other flashlight forums, and you cant expect many flashaholic boardies to chime in and leave their 2 cents. your post is like a farewell (or slab in da face) ;)

PS:

The TerraLux Lightstar 300 is your final choice then?

As you quoted, 300 lumens straight for 3.0 hrs. Absolutely amazing. A nice upgrade from your 32 lumens Coast G10!! Go get it and be happy!!!

Only a true budgeteer like Kreisler would consider a Sanrenmu that costs less than $10 to be overkill.

Depends on your geographic location, in Europe and particularly in the UK we simply are not allowed to play with the more fun sharp toys, many multitools never mind knives are simply illegal, my favorite skinning knife would land me in jail if I carried it - blade over 3”, locking, curved, gut hook on the back side of the blade, the police would have a field day! Depressingly it cost less than £10 from Spain a few years ago.

I’m stuffed for an edc blade as I quite frankly will not use a none locking blade, hell my locking fold up Stanley knife would probably get me in trouble if I ever forgot to return it to my tool box before nipping out to get a butty. :cry: fucked

Guys, I wasn’t too clear in terms of what I will be getting/using (aside from the very compact Coast G10, which I’m really fond of since it can be carried in the lightest of summer clothing and isn’t noticeable).

kreisler, I decided to pass on the Terralux because it’s too big for my tastes, and I have found conflicting information on how credible their lumens rating protocol is (it’s not ANSI, but to be fair to Terralux, I’ve noticed that more flashlight companies than not do NOT publish ANSI ratings on output).

As of now, I am doing the minimalist thing, and taking my time in deciding whether to lower my target to an even more BLF consistent $20 upper range, before buying the one torch that will supplement the G10.

That could mean picking up one of the 100 to 160 lumens Fenix the next time they go on sale (although the Fenix series - and I know they don’t all use the same diode - tends to put out too ‘yellow’ a light for my taste, rather than white), or even buying the new 3-pack of Techlite 200 Lumens torches at Costco (that are around $20).

I really am gunshy of rechargeable batteries, because it’s going to be another step, consuming time, and adding expense, and most importantly, it’s probably not necessary for my purposes.

I have come to realize that almost all of the - what I will call ‘flashlight porn beam shots’ - are taken by people using flashlights with high powered batteries, and while it’s cool to see really bright beamshots, I’m also mindful that even the best flashlights shouldn’t be run on their highest output level for long continuous periods, and that doing so will drain batteries quickly.

I think my new rough criteria for a more powerful backup light is something like:

Not more than 10” in total length
Body not more than 1 1/2” in circumference
100 to 140 lumens (as a true measurement)
Runs on Alkaline AA or AAA batteries
Has a medium power mode of 35 lumens+ with run time of 5 hours+
Has a high power mode (100 to 160 lumens) with a run time of at least 110 minutes
Is durable and highly water resistant

Fenix LD40 or E40?

I just looked that light up and saw it's a 2AA light!

Now, if you load that up with 2000 mAh eneloops, 3 hours runtime would mean 666 mA tailcap current (theoretically!).
What kind of emitter gets 300 lumens out of 600 mA @ 2.4 Volts? Smells like bogus rating to me...

My story is similar to yours, i began like you, in need of 1 single general purpose light for irregular infrequent use, a good portable all-round home flashlight. (...) End of story is, i own now 10+ pocketable lights, spent hundreds of EUR's (for lights + accessories) and resisted all XXXFire flashlight offerings.

Use Eneloops and you will stop worrying about runtimes. Fenix is top quality but overpriced imho. Every trusted person here recommends Balder SE-1 or Xeno E03 and you should try these 2 'great value'-lights and simply pick one of them, and then you're ready to move on in life and leave this light playing field.

The Techlite 200 sounds great too!!

I don’t know with the other lights, but I have a Fenix LD12.
Less than 4.5inches in length, 3/4in diameter, single AA-cell, 115L turbo, 4h, 51min on high 60L, 11h 27L, etc.
Surprising actual throw for its size…

Hi, Trying2Ketchup (from one minimalist to another)…

Your nicely written sentences and paragraphs stand out, almost as much as the fact that nearly all of us here said the same thing you are saying. :smiley:

Those feelings of “I got it all with this!” will stay awhile and you’ll keep loving what you have—until you realize another couldn’t hurt because there are a few tasks where another light couldn’t hurt. You are already there, bud!

Next, you’ll parce up different lights for different situations and then get maybe three or five, and then you’ll notice imperfections and decide to “upgrade” to another, a better one for this or that. You might break the cycle, but most don’t. lol

There is much to contemplate here, like being happy with less, which is the start of the next phase of flashaholism—selling and trading off the old ones. I’m there now. Once I purge the unused ones, I’m happy and then find a “need” to buy more. I’m at the brink of modding, but I’m seriously mechanically challenged, so the disease might have to stay in this advanced stage. But even at this stage, I’m kidding myself into thinking I’m going to go back to maybe six of seven true duty lights, but it ain’t gonna happen. :stuck_out_tongue:

And here’s something else—everyone becomes an enabler…“Get me one of those! I’ll pay you!” etc. It’s vicious, man…harmlessly vicious!

So, while being a minimalist in everything else, I’ve said it’s okay to be a hobbyist who has 50+ lights. I have an 18-gallon drum for them all when moving time comes. Next to the ipod and laptop, they are the only valuables (semi, really) I have.