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What is "The Worst light" you just bought ?

What light have you recently purchased that you feel a real need to warn others about buying ?

 I bought a few  S A-2 trustfires  from Dino direct thinking that their description superceeded  the photo .

I got xpc emitters instead of Xpg r-5's like the description stated .

Don't like the light anyway .. too many sharp edges ,dim obviously , and overall just a dumb light .

what advice do you have  that might help someone avoid a .."piece of junk "..?

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Not the worst, thinking of all that Ultra Super Duper Bright $3 AAA lights but Ultrafire C3 Stainless Steel from Lightake were below my expectations. It was too dim with AA NiMH and burnt out the driver with 14500 battery (modes still work ok with 14500). The size and structure is good, but light may flicker if tightened too much, clicky switch can change modes with the slightest touch etc.

Ok, I still like it and carry around with me, with 14500 inside. But I've had much more reliable lights.

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Not the worst by any stretch of the imagination, but I was pretty disappointed when I ordered yet another TR-1200, expecting it to perform like the others we own and it turned out to be the new, underdriven version. It's still a decent, usable light but it's sort of like trading in your Porsche 911 for a Toyota Camry. Yeah, it's perfectly adequate, it will get the job done and it might even be more reliable and, hey, it really is a good car but it will always feel like you got shortchanged.


The new WF-008 would be a close second. Definitely not the worst, okay on its own but downright disappointing compared to the old one.

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I also bought a Trustfire S-A2.

I got a special 'buy 2 get 1' offer on DX, meaning that I paid for two lights and only got one.

The first light I ordered never showed up.

The only reason I continued to order from DX was that I made another order a few days after the first, which did show up.

Still trying to get my money back on that one....

 

Anyway, all orders I have placed with DX since that time have arrived ok, including the second Trustfire S-A2.

Thanks for confirming that it was indeed advertised as having an XP-G R5 emitter.

DX changed the description hours after I ordered it, and I thought maybe I had simply misread it!

I actually don't dislike this light as much as you do, but that's only because I made some modifications to it:

Sputtered the reflector to get rid of the horrible ringy artifacts

Made a spacer to put in front of the rubber boot in order to recess it enough for the light to tailstand

Replaced the hideous orange tailcap with a black one

 

So now, apart from the fact that the crenelations make the beam square, I actually like it quite a lot!

Quality seems fine, everything seems well machined and it has a real aluminum reflector and glass lens. I think I'm going to upgrade the emitter to an XM-L and see what that's like.

I like to treat these cheap lights as a 'kit' rather than a ready-to-use product, and that helps avoid a lot of disappointment Big Smile

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Gotta be this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260570879714&ssPageNa...

Where to start?

- bad anodising

- poor machining

- threads are laughable

- does not fit protected 18650 no matter what

- has strobe

- Poor driver and lack of regulation

- tailcap switch is press fit

- 18650 rattles inside

- no mode memory, and lacks a real low mode

Came with holster but is really the worst ive seen.

Emitter presumably q5 but comparing it to romisen RC-C8 Q3 falls a bit short. Might be the driver but is pulling enough to be as bright as the romisen.

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Oxy Moron wrote:

Not the worst by any stretch of the imagination, but I was pretty disappointed when I ordered yet another TR-1200, expecting it to perform like the others we own and it turned out to be the new, underdriven version. It's still a decent, usable light but it's sort of like trading in your Porsche 911 for a Toyota Camry. Yeah, it's perfectly adequate, it will get the job done and it might even be more reliable and, hey, it really is a good car but it will always feel like you got shortchanged.


The new WF-008 would be a close second. Definitely not the worst, okay on its own but downright disappointing compared to the old one.

 

I will have to agree on this. After hearing all of the hype, I purchased a tr-1200 and it was an underdriven disappointment. I got rid of it and tried my luck at the 'Palight' version from dino direct. Same driver issue. Very disappointed as it just sits on my shelf reminding me of wasted money. 

 

I am still hoping someone will figure out a proper driver swap for it:)

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Kokopelli wrote:

Not the worst, thinking of all that Ultra Super Duper Bright $3 AAA lights but Ultrafire C3 Stainless Steel from Lightake were below my expectations. It was too dim with AA NiMH and burnt out the driver with 14500 battery (modes still work ok with 14500). The size and structure is good, but light may flicker if tightened too much, clicky switch can change modes with the slightest touch etc.

Ok, I still like it and carry around with me, with 14500 inside. But I've had much more reliable lights.

About your C3SS all you need to do is trim the post on the inside of the switch boot to fix flicker and mode changes. If you want to repair the boost circuit yourself you can replace the DC-DC converter chip with the chip off of this...

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25505

You can also replace the Schottky diode with the one off of that driver as well and it will make the light a little brighter as well.

After the chip replacement I don't know if it still fries with 3.7V or not, I will try it with mine some day and see.

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Budgeteer wrote:

Gotta be this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260570879714&ssPageNa...

Where to start?

- bad anodising

- poor machining

- threads are laughable

- does not fit protected 18650 no matter what

- has strobe

- Poor driver and lack of regulation

- tailcap switch is press fit

- 18650 rattles inside

- no mode memory, and lacks a real low mode

Came with holster but is really the worst ive seen.

Emitter presumably q5 but comparing it to romisen RC-C8 Q3 falls a bit short. Might be the driver but is pulling enough to be as bright as the romisen.

..

This is like the P.o.s. small sun I bought ...I just hate a bad host .. if the body sucks .. the light sucks

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Hands down Ultrafire C3. It's a broken design, needs tin foil to work.

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Boaz wrote:

Budgeteer wrote:

Gotta be this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260570879714&ssPageNa...

Where to start?

- bad anodising

- poor machining

- threads are laughable

- does not fit protected 18650 no matter what

- has strobe

- Poor driver and lack of regulation

- tailcap switch is press fit

- 18650 rattles inside

- no mode memory, and lacks a real low mode

Came with holster but is really the worst ive seen.

Emitter presumably q5 but comparing it to romisen RC-C8 Q3 falls a bit short. Might be the driver but is pulling enough to be as bright as the romisen.

..

This is like the P.o.s. small sun I bought ...I just hate a bad host .. if the body sucks .. the light sucks

I know i was warned. Smile

I couldn't help myself, the smallsun had a plumbing nut on the body this one did not. Oh well.. yesterday i replaced the p.o.s. driver in it and became decently bright. The negative end wire from the emitter was pressure attached to the body. :S Cheap manufacturing at it's finest! Still sux tho... after much needed repairs. Many like it tho, can't wait to get rid of it for cheap.

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Versati ET10, way overpriced and suffering from massive cross threading issues.

Now with 100% all natural asbestos!

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I guess I should have actually stated my worst light rather than just defend the Trustfire S-A2 Big Smile Saik SA-105. I ordered grey, but the light was actually sky blue The threads galled and cross threaded The switch was a press fit in the tailcap Although advertised as aluminum, the reflector was plastic, as was the lens, which was advertised as glass. The lens also came with a small scratch that showed up as a beam artifact The light was horribly dim and had a green tint. Regarding the last point, I transplanted the led out of this light into another one, and it has a beautiful bright neutral white beam. I can only assume that the driver in the Saik was no good. I was a bit surprised by all of this, because i read somewhere that saik is a name Romisen make lights under. If that's true, maybe Saik is Romisen's budget brand...
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I thought Romisens budget brand was mxdl ..wait a minute .I thought Romisen was a budget brand .?

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this one http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16091

It was super bright, but the tailcap spring has an extra brass spacer in a plastic holder, this lost connection after a few months.  I fixed it eventually by completely disassembling the light and stretching both the springs (leaving the spacer out), but that is pretty poor, but its build quality is that in general.

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I got a 29 led torch from a petrol station £3.99. I also have a 1 million candlepower halogen spotlight, great for the two minutes untill the battery dies.

I'm hoping for better things from my newly ordered KD C8 XM-L Smile

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I also have a 1 million candlepower halogen spotlight, great for the two minutes untill the battery dies.

Welcome DWF! Good to have you here.

I think you forgot the 15 hours to charge it up for another ten minutes of runtime. Sad

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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Aloha and welcome to BLF danceswithferrets!  Funny user name. Laughing

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Techlite Lumen Master aka the "Costco Special".  At least until I ripped the guts out and replaced the AAA holder with an 18650

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Thanks Fishinfool, my ferrets love all the empty boxes that my tech habit provides Big Smile

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Thanks Fishinfool, my ferrets love all the empty boxes that my tech habit provides Big Smile

That's funny because here in Hawaii we have mongoose all over the place.  I actually thought they were ferrets at first but then someone told me about how mongoose were introduced to Hawaii (well over a hundred years ago) to control the rat infestation but realized after the fact that rats come out at night and mongoose come out during the day.  What idiots!  Laughing

 

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Small Sun ZY C84 you can't fix this crap, even the pill has not room to ad some weight or something, the C78 has and the hole under the star could be filled with molten solder increasing the heat management a lot.

 

It's even worst than the 1 dollar police which can at least serve as cheap host..

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Small Sun ZY C84 you can't fix this crap, even the pill has not room to ad some weight or something, the C78 has and the hole under the star could be filled with molten solder increasing the heat management a lot.

 

It's even worst than the 1 dollar police which can at least serve as cheap host..

   I have this light ..you're right ..it sucks

Budgeteer and i were discussing how bad these lights are ..in my opinion it's either NOT a Q5 and someone is just lying since it's impossible to tell the difference in almost any xre emitter ..OR it's got one really crappy driver .. probably Both .. the body and build is  just more trash making it  one of my least favored lights .. Junk  don't buy ..!!!

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It could be a real Q5, but from defective batches.

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It's not a Q5 , in a home based bin selection rated at the bottom of all stocks emitters I got , probably Q2...

I'm very upset with this matter since the XR-E  'R2' sent from DX happen to rate even low there...look the link

http://www.dealextreme.com/forums/Forums.dx/Forum.15943~threadid.809707

 

As a side note the XR-E rank beside both R2 one from LCK  and the other from KD is listed below from best to worst

First Romisen RC-G2 march 2010, very close to the above R2

Hugsby P31 6/2010

Hugsby P31 3/2010

RC-G2        12/2010

C78             4/2010

Z84             10/2010

'R2' DX        12/2010

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Well, mine Small Sun ZY-C84 has drawn only 0.67A from tail and if I recall correctly only about 0.6A to led. So it couldn't be bright as it should be. I don't have it anymore, so can't verify again. Still , it was usable as a backup light for mountan biking.
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ledoman wrote:
Well, mine Small Sun ZY-C84 has drawn only 0.67A from tail and if I recall correctly only about 0.6A to led. So it couldn't be bright as it should be. I don't have it anymore, so can't verify again. Still , it was usable as a backup light for mountan biking.
My numbers were exactly the same with the same impression as well ..Junk

Here's anothe piece of junk worth avoiding at all costs .The NF 05. i fondly think of it as my sharp light .. sharp assult bezel and sharp edges all over the tail area ..WHY?/ cuz it's such cheap thin metal for one reason ..Buy it if you love purple light.They have  the guts to say 3w   i think the w stands for WHY WHY WHY..Just more junk

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/nf-05-3w-30-lumen-led-flashlight-with-clip-1-aa-33543

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At least these is well drived ,mine with very few hours of use at around 1,7A or more became like 85000 hours of life , nasty violet or something like that dark light, the star endure such heat that his color is not white anymore, milk and cofee like.