Black Color Sky Ray King 3x XML U2 1B Custom-made batch

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Very tempting, but I am holding off for the new TM-20 Tiny Monster SBT-90 light, which will have a lot more throw,
it’s taking forever to come out thou.

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one link in 69 the other 59, what is the difference?

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one link in 69 the other 59, what is the difference?

At CNQG you’ll have to pay close to $10 for regular shipping, so the price ends up being about the same on both sites.

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I gave in it’s just to damn sexy to resist.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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Am I the first one to have received theirs? Anyway, got it today. Did not come in a box which I guess is not a big deal, but I am disappointed that it did not even come with the lanyard. Would have been nice but I guess the color of the regular lanyard wouldn’t have matched anyway. Unfortunately, I can’t actually say how it works yet because I don’t have enough 18650’s, and the ones I ordered should be here in the next couple of days. I guess the question I have right now is- does the head on the regular King rattle? I’m not talking about a little switch rattle which I’ve heard about- this is a very substantial mass within the flashlight head that moves around when I shake it. It’s not the front glass and its not at the contacts on the bottom as those aren’t moving at all.

Not knowing whether it works or not since I don’t have any batteries, I’m starting to regret the possibility that this light may turn out to be a dud. There is a very unhappy posting from a member on CPF who is in the process of returning his black Kings, and I’m hoping this thread doesn’t turn into a picthfork-fest against ‘Ric’ Sad

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Do you have a link to that thread?

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rwmj5 wrote:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?343068-Black-Skyray-Kings-now-available-with-U2-1B-LEDs-T6-NW-are-still-optional

That thread reads like something of a conspiracy theory. I don’t doubt that the OP had problems with his Kings, but a bit of attentiveness would have resolved the other concerns that he had.

First of all, the price for the black King is pretty much the same on both sites. At CNQG the price is $59.00 + $9.53 for registered air mail, for a total of $68.53. At fancyflashlights the price is $69.00, which includes the cost of registered air mail. So there’s a whopping $0.47 difference.

Second, there is no connection between either of these sites and BLF other than the fact that Ric has a presence on the forums here.

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rwmj5 wrote:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?343068-Black-Skyray-Kings-now-available-with-U2-1B-LEDs-T6-NW-are-still-optional

This ‘oztorchfreak’ seems to have a grudge on BLF ever since the incident… For anyone who doesn’t know this is BJflasher and sparkymarky.
He makes it sound as if BLF has some kind of secret connection to fancyflashlights and cnqg, and that perhaps we sent him a bad one on purpose (the last part is just my spin on it, but ever since he went crazy i can’t help but wonder if that’s what he’s hinting at).

God the way he speaks is annoying, always insulting everyone and now he’s trashing cnqg – ‘Maybe most of those people that bought these lights may have little or no problems at all, but they are still not a good build and maybe a RUSH JOB for the BLF to meet the promised deadline for delivery on 15/8/2012 or just to cut costs by sourcing them from a cut rate sub standard manufacturer.’

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I wont say his response wasn’t a bit overboard, but the fact remained that if the lights were flickering, it could be a concern. You shouldn’t just gloss over potentially legitimate concerns because of an allegiance to some forum or the idea that you are being slighted etc.

Right now there are people waiting anxiously for their lights and they are hoping for the best, but I hope there weren’t somehow widespread quality issues with this batch. The fact that I dont have batteries kind of sucks BC I want to test this thing. I hope i get them by tomorrow bc of the long weekend.

But back to my original question- if you take the head of your Skyray and shake it, does it rattle?

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rwmj5 wrote:
But back to my original question- if you take the head of your Skyray and shake it, does it rattle?

No, it doesn’t. Not even the slightest bit. The only rattle is in the switch, which is minor and doesn’t concern me in the least.

By the way, I run my King on only 2 18650s most of the time. You don’t need 4. How close your output will come to maximum on only 2 cells depends on the cells you are using.

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What I was getting at is that his words have a way of offending people, while he stays safe at the back saying ‘no offense’.

Even with his faulty flashlights, he shouldn’t have worded his post in such a way. I do hope the problem isn’t present in the whole batch though.

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But back to my original question- if you take the head of your Skyray and shake it, does it rattle?

No, it doesn’t. Not even the slightest bit. The only rattle is in the switch, which is minor and doesn’t concern me in the least.

Dammit. Now I’m really worried. I’m not trying to inflame people or offend Ric or whatever, but I have the very real concern that this batch may in fact be junk. Orignally when I got the light I hit the switch and nothing really happened. It wouldnt move. I pressed really hard but it didnt actually move in. I wasnt sure if it was because it was electronic and didnt actually give any positive feedback that it had moved. Now after shaking it a couple times to confirm the unwelcome rattle, the switch worked fine and was depressing in, and giving a reassuring click. But then I shook it again and it is stuck again, unable to be depressed. I know I’m going to have to send this light back and I haven’t even turned it on yet. Sad

I took a chance, figured they had this whole SkyRay King thing figured out and all they would have to do would be to change the anodize color at the end of machining, throw in the higher bin LEDs and everything would be fine. Apparently several of the lights in this batch were not made to same level of quality as the standard king, and I basically lost that bet. I guess that’s what happens to early adopters… You can think me and the guy of CPF have some sort of agenda or we’re making this up to somehow badmouth the seller or the forum, but as people’s orders trickle in and they get theirs, we’ll see how this shakes out.

I have two 18650’s somewhere. I’ll see If i can drag them up and test it out.

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But back to my original question- if you take the head of your Skyray and shake it, does it rattle?

No, it doesn’t. Not even the slightest bit. The only rattle is in the switch, which is minor and doesn’t concern me in the least.

Dammit. Now I’m really worried. I’m not trying to inflame people or offend Ric or whatever, but I have the very real concern that this batch may in fact be junk. Orignally when I got the light I hit the switch and nothing really happened. It wouldnt move. I pressed really hard but it didnt actually move in. I wasnt sure if it was because it was electronic and didnt actually give any positive feedback that it had moved. Now after shaking it a couple times to confirm the unwelcome rattle, the switch worked fine and was depressing in, and giving a reassuring click. But then I shook it again and it is stuck again, unable to be depressed. I know I’m going to have to send this light back and I haven’t even turned it on yet. Sad

I took a chance, figured they had this whole SkyRay King thing figured out and all they would have to do would be to change the anodize color at the end of machining, throw in the higher bin LEDs and everything would be fine. Apparently several of the lights in this batch were not made to same level of quality as the standard king, and I basically lost that bet. I guess that’s what happens to early adopters… You can think me and the guy of CPF have some sort of agenda or we’re making this up to somehow badmouth the seller or the forum, but as people’s orders trickle in and they get theirs, we’ll see how this shakes out.

I have two 18650’s somewhere. I’ll see If i can drag them up and test it out.

No, there’s a very big difference in the way you worded yours and the way he worded his. Instead of just listing the problem he went on to explain this theory why it was broken (which to me sounded quite offensive).

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Again?

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rwmj5 wrote:
You can think me and the guy of CPF have some sort of agenda or we’re making this up to somehow badmouth the seller or the forum, but as people’s orders trickle in and they get theirs, we’ll see how this shakes out.

Check out what I said in post #69 again:

cainn wrote:
That thread reads like something of a conspiracy theory. I don’t doubt that the OP had problems with his Kings, but a bit of attentiveness would have resolved the other concerns that he had.

I mean c’mon, he was carrying on about Ric running some kind of scam that involved gouging an extra $10 out of buyers if they happened to purchase from the fancyflashlights site. This is entirely false. Further, he was clearly implying that there was some sort of collusion between CNQG/fancyflashlights and BLF, which there isn’t.

I don’t deny that there are problems with his Kings. Nor do I deny that there is a problem with yours. I was simply responding to the ignorant conspiratorial ramblings that made up a significant portion of his post. In other words, there are two aspects to this: 1) a faulty product and 2) faulty reasoning. I’m sure Ric will do his best to resolve the former, but it was important for someone to address the latter as well.

Don’t worry too much rwmj5. I know it’s a drag getting a faulty light, and knowing that it will probably take some time to get the situation rectified (been there myself). But Ric takes customer service seriously. I’m sure he will look after you.

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Ho Fook,just outa bed on a bright sunny morning.Booted the laptop up,onto BLF site to find two items im waiting for are having some quality issues[TM11 & SKYRAY KING].

Im new to the hobby,but as with anything, bad stuff will happen from time to time,it shouldnt,but does. Quality control and bench testing is getting less and less in this want it yesterday world.Test one in every hundred,rather than them all.Bad Customer service is almost std these days.Every Tom,Dick and Harry can sell whatever to whoever if they have a computer.Bad service used to come with cheepo items.The old adige,,you get what you paid for,,dosent now always apply.What i mean is,if somethings much cheeper at one place than another.Thers usually a reason,,,they have had to cut cost on product or production,ther dodgie,or when its so cheep any reasonable person should know its a scam Unfortunetly,you can pay top dollar nowdays and still get problems,bad service,and no customer service. Then thers the small world senario.Items once bought down your street/locally/town/county/country are now not even bought on the same continent.Which brings another set of complications. Dont care for bitching,just solutions to the problem realy.Seems all have the same sorta problem here or similar.Dont know why everyone just cant help eachother along and get it nailed n sorted.Makes complete sence to me.The way you conduct yourself doesnt have tobe rant and rave,fling mud about.That can wait.Thers more than one way to skin a cat.Lifes to short and thers always someone worse off than you. JUST MY 50yrs of life experience.

Hope everything gets sorted for everyone and mine arrive ok. As for Ric and some feedback about him.He was very helpfull via email with my order.

Hope the TN31 turns out ok ive ordered.

I realy hope all turnsout ok for Everyone.

DON

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Chicago X wrote:

Hi SparkyMarky.

As of the last count, it’s Sparkymarky, BJFlasher, OzTorchfreak, Dance Man…..

On the other side, he has to edit his post to Saablaster on his use of the Fandyfire…got careless again on the last 2 or 3 pages of the ‘Dedicated Throwers’ thread. Poor Michael aka Saablaster

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Let me apologies to the other BLF members reading..

You folks are some whining school girls. The person on CPF and i believe a member here. Your
acting like the worst of the B—tches.

If you have a problem with a custom light give the seller and member whom we know well
a chance to look at the problem and address it. What are you attempting to accomplish by
bad mouthing the entire purchase? I don’t need to speak for the seller. Seems like most that are complaining have little reputation other than a few posts. After a formal complaint why not just
keep the pie hole shut (in regards to bad mouthing and unjustified claims).

Sorry folks, but i feel this was overdue.

 


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DarkSide wrote:
Let me apologies to the other BLF members reading..

You folks are some whining school girls. The person on CPF and i believe a member here. Your
acting like the worst of the B—tches.

Sorry folks, but i feel this was overdue.

Pardon me, WTF are you talking about? I shared an experience about a product I received based on this thread, and I asked a specific question about the attributes of the standard unit because I do not own one myself, while specifically stating that I was not out to condemn the seller in any way. I also attempted to separate the fact that while the poster on CPF may be complaining about things which are way off base in regards to the seller, his complaints about the actual unit itself may very well be justified, and don’t disregard legitimate concerns about the units themselves just because a post may have had an off-tangent rant about the buying process etc. If three out of the three units we know of thus far have significant issues, there is the chance that there were systemic problems with this entire batch. Hopefully it doesn’t turn out that way but this is the only info we have right now.

Wow if someone seems overly emotionally sensitive over any statement which even gives the hint of appearing to ding a seller or their products in any way, it would appear to be yourself. So brave of you to apologize in the beginning of your post by the way. The community needs a leader in times like these and who better to speak for the forum than someone who has been a member for nearly 3 full months.

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rwmj5 wrote:
So brave of you to apologize in the beginning of your post by the way. The community needs a leader in times like these and who better to speak for the forum than someone who has been a member for nearly 3 full months.

Unlike on CPF where you tend to hang out we do not judge people based on how long they have been here. People are judged based on their actions. There are some people here who have over 2000 posts and have been here for over a year that are not good leaders. Then there are others like Darkside who are well respected despite not having been here for very long. 

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I came into this tread hoping for photos of someone’s new black king with a custom logo, or at least something related.

Keep it on topic.

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You have been a member for 8 months, but have seven posts? That’s some contribution right there…..

You’ve really taken blf to heart….

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gords1001 wrote:
You have been a member for 8 months, but have seven posts? That's some contribution right there..... You've really taken blf to heart....

He's been a member for 1 day not 8 months. 

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gords1001 wrote:
You have been a member for 8 months, but have seven posts? That’s some contribution right there…..

You’ve really taken blf to heart….

Nah, US dates – he joined today (for the 3rd, 4th, who knows) time. As I said about a previous incarnation, the guy could start a fight in an empty room.

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scaru wrote:

rwmj5 wrote:
So brave of you to apologize in the beginning of your post by the way. The community needs a leader in times like these and who better to speak for the forum than someone who has been a member for nearly 3 full months.

Unlike on CPF where you tend to hang out we do not judge people based on how long they have been here. People are judged based on their actions. There are some people here who have over 2000 posts and have been here for over a year that are not good leaders. Then there are others like Darkside who are well respected despite not having been here for very long. 

Hi, first of all I don’t even have an account on CPF so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Second, I don’t care about any sort of inter-flashlight forum bickering you seem to be hinting at. “Well thats the way we do things HERE and over there, theyre a bunch of jerks.” Just don’t care. There was a post about black skyrays on CPF, someone asked to see it, and I posted it.

Account age was only brought up solely because he made comments specifically implying that the number of posts would determine the validity of claims people were making.

Oh yeah- and he was calling people bitches. Truly the voice of reason.

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So you think I’m a previous poster on CPF and this forum with a new screen name. That’s cute. Go with that.

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With your current attitude it is a pretty reasonable guess...

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