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3000mAh AA Battery Search

 

 


I was wandering – What to do for 2013?  and it came to me surfing flea-bay .. The Holy Grail of batteries , the much vaunted – advertised – claimed capacity of 3000mAh in a AA battery. 


So the invitation goes out to everyone that wants to take part in the search for the Holy Grail of batteries . 


This thread will be for posting results of battery tests , of batteries claiming Legendary Status !   [ High Capacity ]  


Lets call it at 2500mAh + [ claim ] or there about . Charge at 500mAh discharge at 500mAh  and report the results here at BLF .


Be they good or bad , it matters not . Even if you know they will suffer Epic Fail , lets get it on record .  


This is too much for any one person to do , so I invite all with chargers capable of discharging @ 500mAh to join in the Grail search !  


Put a couple of dollars towards finding out the truth [ shaft some Ebay sellers on the way ] , and put false claim to rest . 

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Funnily enough their lies don’t quite sufficiently surpass the reality yet. With legitimate 2500-2800mAh batteries on the market, you’d think they’d be trying to pass off 3500mAh these days.

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The search has begun , for a true 3000mAh battery : 

Two batteries arr better than one !

1, Ultracell 3000 , was first charged then discharged at 500mAh resulting in 698mAh capacity , a disappointing and fraudulent 2302mAh short of the advertised mark
2, GooP 3000 , charged + discharged at 500mAh resulting in 734mAh capacity , a disapointing and fraudulent 2266mAh short of the advertised mark

Well , it would appear that anyone buying either of these batteries are going to be defrauded by a whopping 75% + on the promised 3000mAh capacity .

Obviously neither battery is the Grail of AA batteries! so the search will continue .

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I have some 2650 mAh duracell NiMH, but they only old a charge for a week, and i have no ability to test the actual capacity

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I bought these from tmart a couple of months ago:

“3500 mAh”, and I paid $3.36 for them

i can’t test them (yet) unfortunately, but they are very light, so they aren’t put to any heavy use…

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I have some 2650 mAh duracell NiMH, but they only old a charge for a week, and i have no ability to test the actual capacity

i’ve got some, and that capacity is nearly accurate at 500ma discharge (>2500) but they cheated – they’re the biggest AAs i’ve ever seen and won’t fit in some things

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Gees. I buggered up. You can get 3000 mAh batteries? I just bought and recieved 14 Turnigy LSD 2400 mAh from Hobbie King. I hope they test to 2400.Sealed

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Testing Turnigy 2400mAh AA right now 

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Well , a few Dollars to prove one way or another - some are prepared to do this others not .

 

As for the epic fail - its not about anything but putting the proof out there !  Evidence / fact / truth !   something sorely missing in the world .

So its a community service [ flashlight community ] .

I think those two batteries cost all of $2.50  , so now if some one does a search , they may find the true capacity of these batteries and move on the the next rip . [ such is life ]

And I think I have mentioned this battery crap to Ebay , but ?   Probably to much $ involved for the truth to get in the way .   

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dthrckt wrote:
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I have some 2650 mAh duracell NiMH, but they only old a charge for a week, and i have no ability to test the actual capacity

i’ve got some, and that capacity is nearly accurate at 500ma discharge (>2500) but they cheated – they’re the biggest AAs i’ve ever seen and won’t fit in some things


So perhaps this means this thread is concluded, if a mainstream manufacturer pushing the envelop has to make the batteries almost too big to fit the appliances, then 3000 mAh is not doable yet.

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TestingTurnigy2400mAhAArightnow

I will be looking forward to you results. Ive used plenty of there 2200mAh with no issues at all except with three kids I dont have any left. I will have to stash these ones.

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old4570 wrote:
TestingTurnigy2400mAhAArightnow

I will be looking forward to you results. Ive used plenty of there 2200mAh with no issues at all except with three kids I dont have any left. I will have to stash these ones.


You gave away your kids?

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Bort wrote:
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old4570 wrote:
TestingTurnigy2400mAhAArightnow
I will be looking forward to you results. Ive used plenty of there 2200mAh with no issues at all except with three kids I dont have any left. I will have to stash these one
You gave away your kids?

Have you got them? You poor bugger.

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Bort wrote:
dthrckt wrote:
Bort wrote:
I have some 2650 mAh duracell NiMH, but they only old a charge for a week, and i have no ability to test the actual capacity
i've got some, and that capacity is nearly accurate at 500ma discharge (>2500) but they cheated - they're the biggest AAs i've ever seen and won't fit in some things
So perhaps this means this thread is concluded, if a mainstream manufacturer pushing the envelop has to make the batteries almost too big to fit the appliances, then 3000 mAh is not doable yet.

There is new Chemistry on the way [ next 5 years ? ] expect double capacity .. ?  

So is 3000mAh doable ?  There is 2400 , 2500 , and some claim 2800 ..   And then there is all the 3000 and + Claims ...

So there is a challenge in finding the highest capacity battery ..  As well as exposing BS claims . 

 Always remember , the easiest thing in the world to do , is to expel hot air from your lungs and through some vocal chords ..
The resulting sound may , or may not be worth listening too ….

 

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old4570 wrote:

Bort wrote:
dthrckt wrote:
Bort wrote:
I have some 2650 mAh duracell NiMH, but they only old a charge for a week, and i have no ability to test the actual capacity
i’ve got some, and that capacity is nearly accurate at 500ma discharge (>2500) but they cheated – they’re the biggest AAs i’ve ever seen and won’t fit in some things
So perhaps this means this thread is concluded, if a mainstream manufacturer pushing the envelop has to make the batteries almost too big to fit the appliances, then 3000 mAh is not doable yet.

There is new Chemistry on the way [ next 5 years ? ] expect double capacity .. ?  

So is 3000mAh doable ?  There is 2400 , 2500 , and some claim 2800 ..   And then there is all the 3000 and + Claims …

So there is a challenge in finding the highest capacity battery ..  As well as exposing BS claims . 


Notice how i said yet.
Do you really think cheap chinese junk batteries are going to trounce big name manufacturers who actually do R&D?

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MRsDNF wrote:

old4570 wrote:
TestingTurnigy2400mAhAArightnow

I will be looking forward to you results. Ive used plenty of there 2200mAh with no issues at all except with three kids I dont have any left. I will have to stash these ones.

About to post ... 

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I have some Sanyo Harmolattice batteries that were just over (and under) 2500mAh. I don’t recall if I ever did a break in cycle on them though.

I made a webform you input the batteries and values and it pops out on the spreadsheet, I was going to make it public for everyone here to put their results too but I kind of lost interest.

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Just topped them up at 500mAh after they come out of my PA40, it will be interesting to see if they have lost any capacity. Discharging at 500mAh now.

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Do you really think cheap chinese junk batteries are going to trounce big name manufacturers who actually do R&D?

of course not, but he already explained the reasoning?!

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I'll be interested in seeing your results for the Sanyo 2700.  After a couple years, I have nothing good to say about them except that I think the wrapper looks rather snazzy. 

The low mode should be lower.

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The Sanyo Harmolattice after 500mAh charge and 500mAh discharge.

1: 2331mAh
2: 2345mAh
3: 2317mAh
4: 2312mAh

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dthrckt wrote:
Bort wrote:
Do you really think cheap chinese junk batteries are going to trounce big name manufacturers who actually do R&D?

of course not, but he already explained the reasoning?!


Then logically you must agree with me

When this thread was started i thought there might be such a battery out there, but by the time of the post you quoted i realized that there is little chance of it currently. If a real manufacturer has claimed such a capacity and your testing their batteries, then i will revise my opinion to may possibly exist.
I do hope someday there is 3000 mAH and more, NiMH has a better lifetime then Lithium.

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BTY has been around a long time , a reputable manufacturer [ or label er ] of rubbish batteries . Its my humble opinion that when you buy BTY , you are guaranteed rubbish .
And to prove me right or wrong , I spent a lot of money [ was it 99cents ] to bring you some fact twisted with some truth .

Charged at 500mAh and discharged at 500mAh the battery returned all of some 402mAh capacity , WOW! , Im ever so impressed , this is actually better than I expected [ reverse psychology ] , I was expecting closer to 800mAh , I mean at the very least as good as a AAA battery , but I was wrong ! Yes I can admit it , I was wrong . Its actually much better than that , half the capacity of a decent AAA battery . [ Yes sarcasm ] So I just hope , that folks that buy batteries of ebay actually take the time to research the battery they are going to spend a small fortune on . And to that end , I hope this information makes the rounds … Please feel free to re-post , RIP , clone , as long as you dont claim as your own ! A lot of time [ really , 400mAh , like less than 2 hours , but at $25 pr hour thats $50 value ] went into sharing this information , and a lot of money ( $1 ) Actually , since I was doing something else during the charging and discharging , whats 5 minutes of my time worth ? Anyhow , another community [ flashlight ] service announcement . Hope it brings you some joy

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Bort wrote:
dthrckt wrote:
Bort wrote:
Do you really think cheap chinese junk batteries are going to trounce big name manufacturers who actually do R&D?

of course not, but he already explained the reasoning?!


Then logically you must agree with me

When this thread was started i thought there might be such a battery out there, but by the time of the post you quoted i realized that there is little chance of it currently. If a real manufacturer has claimed such a capacity and your testing their batteries, then i will revise my opinion to may possibly exist.
I do hope someday there is 3000 mAH and more, NiMH has a better lifetime then Lithium.

So look at it this way. Which batteries with a claimed 3000mAH have the highest mAH? That way we can find out the best AA for the money and which ones are total junk. The guy’s trying to do a service. :~

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BTY has been around a long time , a reputable manufacturer [ or label er ] of rubbish batteries . Its my humble opinion that when you buy BTY , you are guaranteed rubbish .
And to prove me right or wrong , I spent a lot of money [ was it 99cents ] to bring you some fact twisted with some truth .

LMAO!!

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that pike? musky? is a MONSTER

don’t be splashing your hands around to clean them off in the water where you caught that thing lol

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Energizer Ultimate Lithium are a tiny bit more than 3000mAh ;P

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Im sure they are, but it seems that this thread is dedicated to rechargeable batteries :D!

BTW, Shadowww, did you get my PM months ago about Nextorch sale?

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BTW, Shadowww, did you get my PM months ago about Nextorch sale?

Nope. :s
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It is a pike dthrckt, and no, I never ever rinse my hands over the side of the boat…..

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