Review : Utorch UT01 Flashlight (XP-L V6 / AA & 14500 / e-switch)

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evankouros wrote:
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Curious….
How does it draw 2.01A from a 650 mah Efest 14500 purple IMR… and achieve a 45 minute run time?

650 / 2010 = 32 min

Where are the extra amphours coming from?

Obviously it can’t draw the same Amperes all time it’s running.

Exactly . I said runtime until LVP kicks in …

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OK cool thanks!! Can’t wait to get mine. I am thinking about ordering the Manker version too.

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Freedom wrote:
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If tube almost like another one, i guess it will fit in.

I using XTAR 14500 for T01.

OK, I’ll bite…are you contradicting post #20 and referring to post #19?

If so, many thanks for sharing your opinion (I would order at least one more if this were true).

…pushing past the above and entering uncharted areas of ignorance (on my part)…are there ever enough threads on these unprotected lights to simply grab a few when inserting a protected cell (not fully tightened)…while then reaching for my favorite ‘fix’ this side of tie wire…Gorilla tape?

I could care less what a light looks like if it works with a protected battery.

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On my unit Xtar 14500 protected don’t fit in my unit . (If that’s the question , didn’t really understand the question Sad )

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Giorgos, I think what Freedom is asking is if there are enough threads where you screw the tail, so that if he doesn’t screw it totally (to the end) he can use a 14500 protected battery (like the XTAR 14500). Leaving the tail a little bit up (not totally screwed), the protected 14500 might fit.

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giorgoskok wrote:
On my unit Xtar 14500 protected don’t fit in my unit . (If that’s the question , didn’t really understand the question Sad )

Understood and thanks for sharing (again), George.
The previous poster seems to be disputing your claim (which I have a hard time believing given that you have the exact same cell) and I’m asking whether a similarly/comparatively shorter protected cell would work if it was jerry-rigged/held on with but a few threads engaged and some quality tape applied to hold it there.

Do I like operating in that matter? No.
Do I shy away from unprotected battery powered lights with LVP circuits which don’t shut off (yes).

I am still excited to receive this light. I also figured that I would receive quite a bit of pushback from even ‘suggesting’ that it could be made to work with a protected cell (safely)…which it probably can’t be (or perhaps tint snobbery extends to overall appearance as well for hard core aficionados).

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evankouros wrote:
Giorgos, I think what Freedom is asking is if there are enough threads where you screw the tail, so that if he doesn’t screw it totally (to the end) he can use a 14500 protected battery (like the XTAR 14500). Leaving the tail a little bit up (not totally screwed), the protected 14500 might fit.

If the tail isn’t 100% screwed light won’t work (because of the Anodized threads) .

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giorgoskok wrote:
evankouros wrote:
Giorgos, I think what Freedom is asking is if there are enough threads where you screw the tail, so that if he doesn’t screw it totally (to the end) he can use a 14500 protected battery (like the XTAR 14500). Leaving the tail a little bit up (not totally screwed), the protected 14500 might fit.

If the tail isn’t 100% screwed light won’t work (because of the Anodized threads) .

…so here comes the “there’s-gotta-be-a-way” guy in me:

What if you taped/somehow protected the spring and sand-blasted the threads?
Would the light light turn on (soon enough) as some of my other lights do (I always just assumed that their threads were anodized as well) or at some point in time before the two pieces are threaded together?

Then again, perhaps hard anodizing is just that on such a thin piece of metal (thread) and not practically ‘micro-sandable’…

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giorgoskok wrote:
evankouros wrote:
Giorgos, I think what Freedom is asking is if there are enough threads where you screw the tail, so that if he doesn’t screw it totally (to the end) he can use a 14500 protected battery (like the XTAR 14500). Leaving the tail a little bit up (not totally screwed), the protected 14500 might fit.

If the tail isn’t 100% screwed light won’t work (because of the Anodized threads) .

…so here comes the “there’s-gotta-be-a-way” guy in me (sorry) Wink :

What if you taped/somehow protected the spring and sand-blasted the threads?
Would the light light turn on (soon enough) as some of my other lights do (I always just assumed that their threads were anodized) or at some point in time before the two pieces are threaded together?

Then again, perhaps hard anodizing is just that on such a thin piece of metal (thread) and not practically ‘micro-sandable’…

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(Flagguys.com):..and man o man did they ever refuse to be subjugated. These guys were everywhere. They were important in Washington’s siege of Boston. They stayed behind and were the last to leave after covering the main army’s dangerous nick of time retreat from Long Island. They crossed the Delaware with Washington. They were “..at Brandywine, Germantown, Monmouth, and every major skirmish, and battle all the way to Yorktown..” where they fought “the most important part of the siege” according to General Steuben. These guys saw action in every one of the original 13 colonies.

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Yes you can do it .

But there are easiest solutions too . I will upload a pic later today .

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giorgoskok wrote:
But there are easiest solutions too . I will upload a pic later today .

Waiting… Smile
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giorgoskok wrote:
Yes you can do it .

But there are easiest solutions too . I will upload a pic later today .

Aaaaaaaah….. (thank you!) Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2yIkDVs0cA
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Ok here are some quick pics (sorry Silly ). The paperclip mod (original mod by someone on the Blf A6 thread )

Get a paperclip , give it that shape and insert it inside the tailcap .

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Excellent! (many thanks)

Any other mods out there or suggestions/improvements on this one?

Hoping that this helps others who prefer protected cells.

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Thanks Giorgos! Thumbs Up

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Could you instead snip 1 turn off of the big tailcap spring?

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Could you instead snip 1 turn off of the big tailcap spring?

I haven’t tried it , it could work .

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peteybaby wrote:
Could you instead snip 1 turn off of the big tailcap spring?

…keep snipping away, just a little at a time, until it turns on.. :thumbsup: …thank you!

Is the XTAR 14500 the consensus half way decent shortest protected cell out there?

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The XTAR and the Olight 14500 are the only protected I’ve used so far.
The XTAR is better, but I don’t see it around for sale lately.
You can compare many 14500s here.

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evankouros wrote:
The XTAR and the Olight 14500 are the only protected I’ve used so far. The XTAR is better, but I don’t see it around for sale lately. You can compare many 14500s here.

Thank you for the opinion.
It would be great to hear of the first protected cell to be used in this light of any type as I am (still) trying to wrap my mind around 800 lumens ‘bursting’ from this XP L(?) vs the 500 I am enjoying presently from my ZL SC52 L2 (XM L?) with the same 14500 cell.

Is this merely a result of the higher (?) unprotected cell giving this LED more power…a more ‘powerful’/efficient LED…or both?

…showing my ignorance ‘big time’ here, I know… Facepalm

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Using an IMR vs a protected battery : IMR will have higher output (lumens) at the highest setting .

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Thanks for your patience, George.

I remember (now) once buying/trying an AW IMR unprotected cell in a ZL that I had and why.

What threw me was my ZL SC52 L2 putting out 300 lumens using an Eneloop and 500 lumens using a protected 14500 (which seemed almost impossible not long ago)….vs the UT01 putting out 500 lumens (AA) and 700 something using the unprotected cell.

Whatever I gained by using the protected cell seemed worth it for whatever the lumens turned out to be north of 500 (which seems twice as incredible as I thought the SC52 to be using an Eneloop driving 300 lumens).

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Review updated (Update Log)

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Thanks for updating with new data Giorgos. Thumbs Up

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Thanks for updating with new data Giorgos. Thumbs Up

+1!

Many thanks!

The setup mode means it behaves like a manker t01? Whoop!

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Received it today, unfortunately the switch on mine is very bad. It only works if I press it in a special way with the nail of my finger. So far it is unusable. I hope I can get it fixed.

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I just ordered a NW.
Thanks for the group buy.

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Please keep us updated and thanks for the heads up.
I would also like to hear from anybody on the difference in output between protected and unprotected cells if they (both?) fit in your light (thanks in advance)…

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Freedom wrote:
Please keep us updated and thanks for the heads up. I would also like to hear from anybody on the difference in output between protected and unprotected cells if they (both?) fit in your light (thanks in advance)…

I’ll write about the performance between protected and unprotected , probably tomorrow (Been busy today , sorry) .

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giorgoskok wrote:
I’ll write about the performance between protected and unprotected , probably tomorrow (Been busy today , sorry) .

Giorgos, am I missing something here?
Didn’t you write that protected 14500s don’t fit in your UT01?

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