Thrunite TC20 - XHP70 - 3800lm

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I’m not 100% happy with the neutral white version I got, so I ordered the cool white. I might end up selling (Continental USA only) the neutral if I like the cool white more. I’ll be in touch. BTW, it’s perfect with the original box and all included accessories.

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I’m not 100% happy with the neutral white version I got, so I ordered the cool white. I might end up selling (Continental USA only) the neutral if I like the cool white more. I’ll be in touch. BTW, it’s perfect with the original box and all included accessories.
So is it just the tint shift you dislike? Do you usually get NW in your lights? Also do you know the CCT of these, for NW and/or CW? didn’t see it in Thrunite.com or amazon. I wouldn’t be happy with CW 6000K> and <4500K could be a bit warm for me in a light like this, 4700K – 5500K would suit me best.

Also does double click to turbo work from off?

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I love neutral white, but this one has a great hot spot with a yellowish corona and a ever so slightly bluish spill when shinning on a white wall. Maybe I’m being overly picky. Everything else about this flashlight is fantastic. Yes, double click from off gets you to turbo

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atbglenn wrote:
I love neutral white, but this one has a great hot spot with a yellowish corona and a ever so slightly bluish spill when shinning on a white wall. Maybe I’m being overly picky. Everything else about this flashlight is fantastic. Yes, double click from off gets you to turbo
Thanks for the info. I’ve been noticing the newest leds from cree seem to have those characteristics, I just got an Xp-L2 and it’s tint is exactly as you described.

I agree with what you were saying in an earlier post that it’s mostly when illuminating white walls etc. and not in real use. But right now where we live, too warm, too cool and tint shift “rainbows” are real undesirable outdoors, everything’s white out there!

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Still wondering what the CCT is on these.

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beam0 wrote:
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I love neutral white, but this one has a great hot spot with a yellowish corona and a ever so slightly bluish spill when shinning on a white wall. Maybe I’m being overly picky. Everything else about this flashlight is fantastic. Yes, double click from off gets you to turbo
Thanks for the info. I’ve been noticing the newest leds from cree seem to have those characteristics, I just got an Xp-L2 and it’s tint is exactly as you described.

I agree with what you were saying in an earlier post that it’s mostly when illuminating white walls etc. and not in real use. But right now where we live, too warm, too cool and tint shift “rainbows” are real undesirable outdoors, everything’s white out there!

My Convoy L6 XHP 70 NW has a perfect tint. Maybe the XHP 70.2 is dud?

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beam0 wrote:
atbglenn wrote:
I’m not 100% happy with the neutral white version I got, so I ordered the cool white. I might end up selling (Continental USA only) the neutral if I like the cool white more. I’ll be in touch. BTW, it’s perfect with the original box and all included accessories.
So is it just the tint shift you dislike? Do you usually get NW in your lights? Also do you know the CCT of these, for NW and/or CW? didn’t see it in Thrunite.com or amazon. I wouldn’t be happy with CW 6000K> and <4500K could be a bit warm for me in a light like this, 4700K – 5500K would suit me best.

Also does double click to turbo work from off?

On my CW version, yes, double click from off goes to turbo

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Does the included battery have protection circuit? (I saw a couple reviews said it is) Listing doesn’t say.

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The battery is protected

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atbglenn wrote:
The battery is protected
I’m amazed these high output lights don’t require the unprotected hi-drain batteries as L6, Q8 etc.

Two other lights with similar output also come with protected batteries: The Acebeam L30 (4000lm) and the Olight R50 pro seeker (3200lm) .
I assume the protection circuits are around 10-12A, which I believe is the highest available.

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beam0 wrote:
Still wondering what the CCT is on these.

Measured my NW TC20:
hotspot 4800K
spill 5600K

Have a look at maukka’s review of the Acebeam K30. Temp and tint wise the TC20 is quite similar but not as bad due to the smaller OP reflector.

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atbglenn wrote:
I love neutral white, but this one has a great hot spot with a yellowish corona and a ever so slightly bluish spill when shinning on a white wall. Maybe I’m being overly picky. Everything else about this flashlight is fantastic. Yes, double click from off gets you to turbo

I’ve read that the latest generation CREE leds, the XP-G3, XP-L2 and XHP50.2 have quite some issues with so to speak “rainbows” being created using a (specific) reflector. Perhaps this is also the case with XHP70.2, and this is what you’re seeing. I have only one light with XHP70.2 (Haikelite MT07S), and I don’t have this problem.
Perhaps you could have similar issues with the cool white version. Only one way to find out.

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atbglenn wrote:
I love neutral white, but this one has a great hot spot with a yellowish corona and a ever so slightly bluish spill when shinning on a white wall. Maybe I’m being overly picky. Everything else about this flashlight is fantastic. Yes, double click from off gets you to turbo

I’ve read that the latest generation CREE leds, the XP-G3, XP-L2 and XHP50.2 have quite some issues with so to speak “rainbows” being created using a (specific) reflector. Perhaps this is also the case with XHP70.2, and this is what you’re seeing. I have only one light with XHP70.2 (Haikelite MT07S), and I don’t have this problem.
Perhaps you could have similar issues with the cool white version. Only one way to find out.

I’ll let you know if the cool white has the same issues. Again, in normal use it’s not really a problem. Im just being overly picky. Aren’t we all?

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atbglenn wrote:
hIKARInoob wrote:
atbglenn wrote:
I love neutral white, but this one has a great hot spot with a yellowish corona and a ever so slightly bluish spill when shinning on a white wall. Maybe I’m being overly picky. Everything else about this flashlight is fantastic. Yes, double click from off gets you to turbo

I’ve read that the latest generation CREE leds, the XP-G3, XP-L2 and XHP50.2 have quite some issues with so to speak “rainbows” being created using a (specific) reflector. Perhaps this is also the case with XHP70.2, and this is what you’re seeing. I have only one light with XHP70.2 (Haikelite MT07S), and I don’t have this problem.
Perhaps you could have similar issues with the cool white version. Only one way to find out.

I’ll let you know if the cool white has the same issues. Again, in normal use it’s not really a problem. Im just being overly picky. Aren’t we all?

Oh yeah we are! It’s also part of being a flashaholic to observe these technical aspects of a light and discuss. My Thrunite Mini TN30 NW has a nice neutral white spill, but the hotspot is seriously yellowish; it’s pretty bad. But the light itself is so typically Thrunite rock solid. UI is great, machining and finish just awesome, and there are barely reports of failed Thrunite lights, so you know you have a really good light in your hand. Knowing this and enjoying my light makes me forgive the poor tint easily.

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atbglenn wrote:
I’m not 100% happy with the neutral white version I got, so I ordered the cool white…………………………..

Quite a few reviews on YouTube and several do a comparison with the Olight R50 Pro seeker XHP70 CW (not 70.2)

To get an idea on tint of the TC20 CW version, in this video there’s a live beam shot comparison of the TC20 CW and Olight R50, at 19.30 he puts them side by side and the the CW Olight appears warmer than the CW Thrunite, and the reviewer makes comment of it saying the Olight “looks more yellowish”.

In maukka’s review of the R50 Pro he measured the Olight’s hotspot at 5550-5860K in its center (7190-7700K in the spill) maukka commented about Olight making the R50’s tint CW instead of NW: “I would have expected a neutral tint and a CRI of at least 70. In an otherwise amazing light, this is a clear oversight”

So my guess is a true neutral fan won’t be happy with the TC20 CW version either.

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In this YouTube review by HarleyWood23 he also compares it with the R50 Pro, in the live beam shots the R50 Pro looks a bit brighter in my eyes, although the Olight does have a larger hotspot. The R50 Pro is rated 3200lm.

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Robo218 just posted an excellent review on the TC20 here that also includes his YouTube video: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/58555
Check out his comparison photo with an X6… the TC20 is actually smaller!

(1/21/17 Post edited to correct a mix up on the videos and links)

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Not trying to hijack the thread , but some of the questions asked about the TC20 here may be answered in my full review with lumens , amperage and some runtime charts……..

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/58555

Also the light I compared was not the R50 seeker as mentioned a couple of post above , but was the Olight X7 Marauder.

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Not sure why people are hating the NW tint. Personally I love it!

Yes the new Cree emitters have some tint shift and we all have to accept that fact. For outdoor use, you don’t notice it and the NW tint is great!

It’s much brighter than the Acebeam EC50 gen II, but the EC50 doesn’t have any tint shift. For the price and size, it’s a winner.

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atbglenn wrote:
hIKARInoob wrote:
atbglenn wrote:
I love neutral white, but this one has a great hot spot with a yellowish corona and a ever so slightly bluish spill when shinning on a white wall. Maybe I’m being overly picky. Everything else about this flashlight is fantastic. Yes, double click from off gets you to turbo

I’ve read that the latest generation CREE leds, the XP-G3, XP-L2 and XHP50.2 have quite some issues with so to speak “rainbows” being created using a (specific) reflector. Perhaps this is also the case with XHP70.2, and this is what you’re seeing. I have only one light with XHP70.2 (Haikelite MT07S), and I don’t have this problem.
Perhaps you could have similar issues with the cool white version. Only one way to find out.

I’ll let you know if the cool white has the same issues. Again, in normal use it’s not really a problem. Im just being overly picky. Aren’t we all?

I can answer you with the CW version I just received…GREENISH AND YUCK! It’s not overly green but it’s there in all modes except turbo. It’s hard to describe but it’s a beam that, (to me), and for a lack of a better term is “sickly like looking through a slightly green fog” Smile

Again, the turbo mode is nice and white and is what the other modes should look like. I’m very sensitive to greenish tints and to me, it’s very disappointing. I’m sure it might not bother some folks but like atbglenn said, we’re all somewhat overly picky here.

The light itself is very well built and otherwise very quality with only the slight mushiness in the activation button, (as one poster pointed out), the only other slight negative. But the beam color trumps it all.

I compared the CW beam of the TC20 against my D1 in CW that I received last month and it’s no comparison. The D1’s CW beam should be the standard that all CW beams should be, white, white, PURE WHITE! No green, no blue, no yellow, nothing but white.

I apologize as I have no way to show beam shots but this is going back. I just hope Thrunite doesn’t give me a hassle in getting a refund.

I hope you folks that ordered CW have better luck than me.

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I hope I have better luck than you. Green tints drive me nuts.

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NW no longer available to USA customers! Hopefully just out of stock.

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I hope I have better luck than you. Green tints drive me nuts.

I wish you luck too. Let us know about yours when you receive it.

Again, any others get CW and what’s your thoughts?

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Well I just e-mailed Thrunite asking to return mine for a refund. They say their warranty is bulletproof if you’re not satisfied so we’ll see.

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I’m beginning to think the TC20 is a great light…with two horrible tint options.

Maybe I’m missing something but what other tint options are there with this light? It seems like a lot of these “new and improved” LED’s” ARE improved with better runtimes and more brightness but still are hindered with tint problems just like the old days.

I really had high hopes for this but alas, it has some teething problems like most new lights nowadays.

Hey, I’ve got an idea! Let’s just buy them anyway and spend extra money for better whatever this or that and many hours to make them right! Wink

Again and like always, some folks will be fine with these tints and nothing wrong with that. I just wish I could be.

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One of the things I like a lot about this flashlight is how FireFly and Turbo are hidden.
What I like less is the spacing of the outputs. I would prefer: Medium = 650lumen.
Does this flashlight has a ATtiny?

200% more lumen, 90% runtime in Turbo compared to High? How realistic are the run times?
-Turbo (3800 lumen; 130 minutes)
-High (1800 lumen; 145 minutes)

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ZoomieFan wrote:
One of the things I like a lot about this flashlight is how FireFly and Turbo are hidden.
What I like less is the spacing of the outputs. I would prefer: Medium = 650lumen.
Does this flashlight has a ATtiny?

200% more lumen, 90% runtime in Turbo compared to High? How realistic are the run times?
-Turbo (3800 lumen; 130 minutes)
-High (1800 lumen; 145 minutes)

I think thrunite had a typo here, in Robo review he measured 9A draw un tailcap, so, it must be 30min, not 130 (without the step down, of course Big Smile u

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My full review here…… http://budgetlightforum.com/node/58555

Actual run time testing , output and lumens chart from my review…….

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@robo819 THAT’s the info I was looking for!
Do I have to wear gloves for Turbo mode? Smile

So after 3 minutes on Turbo it steps down to about High (1800)
Do you have a similar table for the High setting? The specs state 145 mins on high. I guess that should be read as 145 mins @1300-1800 lumen?

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ZoomieFan wrote:
@robo819 THAT’s the info I was looking for!
Do I have to wear gloves for Turbo mode? Smile

So after 3 minutes on Turbo it steps down to about High (1800)
Do you have a similar table for the High setting? The specs state 145 mins on high. I guess that should be read as 145 mins @1300-1800 lumen?

The charts are the only testing I have done with the TC20. Had 3 lights come in for review at once and have 2 of them done so haven’t had much time to do more testing with it.
I think if started in High mode though it would probably get 120 to 140 minutes as my best guess.

It gets hot at the 3 minute mark but not blister you instantly hot , as you could probably grab the head for a couple of seconds before you get burned.

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………………………………..he light I compared was not the R50 seeker as mentioned a couple of post above , but was the Olight X7 Marauder.

I’ve edited my post for the correction, sorry to cause confusion. Facepalm

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