Thrunite TC20 - XHP70 - 3800lm

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Oh, crap, you have four lights that I want to buy (SC-02, TC-20, DQG and Q8). I love NW around 5000K and the least discoloration. Tell me which of the flashlights are you most happy with? I am asking about color, size, modes, etc. I care about a big leak.

They all have pro & con, none of them is perfect.
Q8 is a great light, one of best UI on the market, nice beam & tint, but machining can’t compare with Olight & Thrunite. I found Q8 is too heavy & bulky for some of my tasks.
DQG is the light I use most because the TIR & tiny size. V2 NW version has very nice cream white 5000k Tint unlike V1. NW has very warm NWTint. Although, It is a great light for daily use, but I don’t trust the reliability in the harsh environment. The switch feels kind weak.
SC-02 is my least like light, big bulky & heavy, machining is so so, the UI is just ok, switch is not very responsive.
Thrunite TC20 is my favor 26650 by far, Machining is very good, build quality feel solid, size is good for any tasks, Tint is good for Cree XHP 70.2. I don’t have any complaint so far…..
By the way, lumen output # never my major concern, Tint/size/ practical are more important for me!

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I dont know if you saw my post HERE but if you get a good slice on the emitter first , then cut straight down right at the edges of the die itself very carefully and get all that other phospor off , then the beam will actually have less greenish cast in it and tighten up some also.

Getting that layer of phosphor off around the die itself is key to getting rid of what I call the “Olive” cast around the main hotspot.

Note this is based on the CW emitter……..the NW emitter would probably get way too warm or yellow if the slice and dice method was used.


Hi, Thanks for tip & detail explane. I don’t have skill to dedome/shave dome LED; however, I have few shave dome moded lights from Vinh. I do like tighter hotspot & natural tint, but no matter what type of LED, floody or throwy, they all have hint of green tint especially indoor & on white wall.
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Q8 arrived yesterday and stay with me for longer. It is great as the need for power and not necessarily a huge range. Interface …. I fell in love. Well, machining is not really the number one, but there is no tragedy. I’ve even taken measurements and are in my footer. charles lin, thank you for your answer, you helped me make some decisions. I am stripping SC-02 from the shopping list. DQG and maybe TC20 are left.

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Anyone tried swapping led with MT-G2?
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I got to looking into the LED on the lowest setting and noticed spots. Is this normal, or a bad LED?

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ARsee wrote:
I got to looking into the LED on the lowest setting and noticed spots. Is this normal, or a bad LED?

You can measure the output?

If the output is ok, I didnt worry about it Silly

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I have no way to measure it correctly. The spots are not black, so I presumed it to be normal.
UV image added above ^^^

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I ordered the TC20 because after doing research, it seems this is still the brightest 26650 flashlights and is brighter than the newly released Acebeam EC50 III with same emitter. However, I’m really nervous that I will get one with greenish tint. I already have the DQG Tiny III v3 7xXPG2 which I like alot because of the creamy tint and small size. I also have the SC-02 ordered several weeks ago but waiting for arrival. I doubt I will use the SC-02 that much as it is dimmer than the DQG and TC20 but I wanted to try an MT-G2 flashlight. Also Haikelite user interface is improving alot and I’m in love with their recent MT09R monster flashlight.

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SKV89 wrote:
I ordered the TC20 because after doing research, it seems this is still the brightest 26650 flashlights and is brighter than the newly released Acebeam EC50 III with same emitter. However, I’m really nervous that I will get one with greenish tint. I already have the DQG Tiny III v2 which I like alot because of the creamy tint and small size. I also have the SC-02 ordered several weeks ago but waiting for arrival. I doubt I will use the SC-02 that much as it is dimmer than the DQG and TC20 but I wanted to try an MT-G2 flashlight. Also Haikelite user interface is improving alot and I’m in love with their recent MT09R monster flashlight.

Where do you order the tc20? Shocked

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On Thrunite’s website.

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On Thrunite’s website.

They dont ship to brazil Crying Facepalm Tired

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Have you tried Amazon? Or you can send Thrunite an email to see who sells to Brazil.
https://www.amazon.com/ThruNite-Rechargeable-Tactical-Flashlight-Capacit...

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SKV89 wrote:
Have you tried Amazon? Or you can send Thrunite an email to see who sells to Brazil. https://www.amazon.com/ThruNite-Rechargeable-Tactical-Flashlight-Capacit...

The problem to order in amazon……

Amazon request the full fee tax for our “armed robbery’s brazil cost”, I can buy almost 3 TC20 which this amount Facepalm

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http://www.hkequipment.net/product-p/tc20 maybe?

Out of stock, they sent an email for me Crying

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Charles,
Could you elaborate a bit on pros/cons of TC20 vs DQG? I’m attracted to DQG becuase it is substantially smaller – that makes a large difference for me as to whether light actually gets used or remains a shelf queen. Everything else about the TC20 seems better to me, wondering if it’s worth it for extra size.

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Charles,
Could you elaborate a bit on pros/cons of TC20 vs DQG? I’m attracted to DQG becuase it is substantially smaller – that makes a large difference for me as to whether light actually gets used or remains a shelf queen. Everything else about the TC20 seems better to me, wondering if it’s worth it for extra size.

Price:
DQG won! no matter with or without coupon code for both lights.
Machining & built quality:
TC20 won! DQG has no comparison.
Size:
DQG is much smaller, But TC20 has built-in charger, very Convenience in case of emergencies, camping & travel. All you need is a power bank.
Beam & tint:
I like DQG NW V2 better, Tint is cream white 5000k similar to my Emisar D4 XP-G2 S4 3D. I also like big even hotspot from TIR.
TC20 NW has good tint & beam ,but you can clear notice tint shift in close distance. However, TC20 is much brighter.
Reliability:
All my Thrunite flashlight refuses to die no matter how I abuse them. One of my DQG broken because the switch failed.
Others:
DQG has a very small switch, hard to find in the dark, It also feels kinda weak.
TC20 has a soft clicky feel switch with battery indicator built-in.

I love both lights! If I can only pick one………. Thrunite TC20!

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I like thrunite lights.. user interface, and their driver..

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charles lin wrote:
I love both lights!

You do not help Smile
I will have to buy both.

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I’ve always wanted that DQG 26650, glad I didn’t get it yet since now it’s on it’s 3rd version.

Wondering why Charles said the Machining/Build quality has no comparison? I’ve read the Machining and Annodizing was good, (It’s good on my DQG 18650 Tiny 1st) And the knurling on 26650 Tint III it looks great. Unless he’s just referring to the switch. Not sure if there’s been switch issues on the 26650 v3 like there was on the most recent 18650 versions.

Don’t see really how we can compare a 7x TIR LED to a single reflectored LED, isn’t the DQG more of a flooder? Yeah they’re both compact, high output 26650, but birds of a different feather I thought. Got to have both.

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beam0 wrote:
I’ve always wanted that DQG 26650, glad I didn’t get it yet since now it’s on it’s 3rd version.

Wondering why Charles said the Machining/Build quality has no comparison? I’ve read the Machining and Annodizing was good, (It’s good on my DQG 18650 Tiny 1st) And the knurling on 26650 Tint III it looks great.

If you use your finger across DQG body up & down, you will feel many sharp edges around all over the body (stainless bezel, heat sink fins & lanyard hole). All my acebeam/Thrunite/Olight/Fenix have machining Chamfer for every single edge. So, you won’t fell any sharp edge in your hand.
I have two DQG 26650, one doesn’t pass my waterproof test & some minor Scratches on TIR lens. Another one received with broken O-ring & did not incoulde any spare o-ring. I never have such problems with Thrunite flashlights.

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charles lin wrote:
beam0 wrote:
I’ve always wanted that DQG 26650, glad I didn’t get it yet since now it’s on it’s 3rd version.

Wondering why Charles said the Machining/Build quality has no comparison? I’ve read the Machining and Annodizing was good, (It’s good on my DQG 18650 Tiny 1st) And the knurling on 26650 Tint III it looks great.

If you use your finger across DQG body up & down, you will feel many sharp edges around all over the body (stainless bezel, heat sink fins & lanyard hole). All my acebeam/Thrunite/Olight/Fenix have machining Chamfer for every single edge. So, you won’t fell any sharp edge in your hand.
I have two DQG 26650, one doesn’t pass my waterproof test & some minor Scratches on TIR lens. Another one received with broken O-ring & did not incoulde any spare o-ring. I never have such problems with Thrunite flashlights.

OK thanks for clarifying that! I just checked my DQG 18650 and it also has the sharp edges compared to the TC20

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I love the DQG for that, wish more lights were this aggressive in the knurling. Love

It’s how close this Thrunite gets that makes me want it.

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DB Custom wrote:
I love the DQG for that, wish more lights were this aggressive in the knurling. Love

It’s how close this Thrunite gets that makes me want it.

I know I’m hell bent to find aggressive knurling lately!
The DQG is a nice compact bright light, but I wouldn’t be considering it if it didn’t have that awesome DQG knurling.

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Just ordered a Wowtac A3S zoomie, looks like the same knurling as Thrunite. Hope so.

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The WowTac is pretty neat, but not in the same class. Wink

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DB Custom wrote:
The WowTac is pretty neat, but not in the same class. Wink

I only posted about it here for the knurling discussion Wink Yes a different class in output and style, but as far as build quality/construction I think Wowtac may be pretty close if not equal to Thrunite? The switch appears to be the same too. Just hoping for the same knurling as TC20 has, and it does appear to be.

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DB Custom wrote:
The WowTac is pretty neat, but not in the same class. Wink

I only posted about it here for the knurling discussion Wink Yes a different class in output and style, but as far as build quality/construction I think Wowtac may be pretty close if not equal to Thrunite? The switch appears to be the same too. Just hoping for the same knurling as TC20 has, and it does appear to be.

While the Wowtac (Atactical) lights I have , which is almost all of them , are very good quality and designed much like the Thrunite lights in the same class and type , Thrunite does still have an edge on the knurling design.

Wowtac does receive technical support from Thrunite and follows many of their design features , but the knurling although it is good on the Wowtac , still isn’t quite as good , or as aggressive as Thrunite.

Although similar the Thrunite knurling is a slightly larger pattern and slightly more raised.

Below picture (Left to Right) is the Thrunite TC12 V2 ….the Wowtac A1S V2….and the Wowtac A3S

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Well gosh robo, why didn’t you go ahead and use the TC20 in this comparison? Wink

Yes, knurling class is what I was referring too. I too have the A3 (from robo) and while the knurling is good on it it’s not to the level of the DQG Tiny nor is the anodizing Type III in my opinion.

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DB Custom wrote:
Well gosh robo, why didn’t you go ahead and use the TC20 in this comparison? Wink

Yes, knurling class is what I was referring too. I too have the A3 (from robo) and while the knurling is good on it it’s not to the level of the DQG Tiny nor is the anodizing Type III in my opinion.

TC20 was in the bedroom and I didn’t want to wake the wife in the wee hours when I took the picture this morning.

Just for you though upon your request , here is the TC20 (Left) and the A3S………….

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Thanks, technically they’re fairly similar but the Thrunite does have a larger pattern that comes across as more aggressive. I like the way it reflects light, shows that it has more surface area to the diamonds and will be grippier.

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I just received my TC20 that I bought from Thrunite directly but it surprisingly came in an Amazon Prime box!

The light is bigger than I thought especially because I had a DN70 and currently own a DQG Tiny III 7xXPG2. The TC20 is bright but the hotspot is tighter than I like and I don’t like the green around the hotspot and bluish hint in the large spill. Beam and tint wise, I much prefer the Haikelite SC02 MTG2 5000k and DQG Tiny III NW (I estimate 3800k to 4000k) with more creamy tint and larger hotspots. I just can’t stand yellow or green tint.

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