Short Review of Sofirn SP33 v2 with XHP50.2

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I just got my own SP33 in my mailbox when I got home today after work. Nice surprise since tracking said it was going to be done tomorrow!

I’m impressed with the stoutness of the light overall. Thick battery tube, firm springs, solid stainless steel bezel…Nice! No sharp edges. Good tailstandability (is that a word?). The switch isn’t terribly firm but it feels good. A bit more grease on the threads wouldn’t hurt but that’s easily remedied.

I was wondering if I’d be rushing to swap out a NW emitter with my next order from Mtn, but I’m not sure if I will. Yes, it’s cool, but not glaringly cold like some of my older lights.

From a quick shot off of the porch, it lights up the yard well. I like the larger hot spot compared to my Haikelite SC26 and the yellow halo of the 50.2 shouldn’t be an issue outside in real conditions.

Once again, I am enjoying the hand-filling size of the 26650 lights I’ve been using. Maybe it reminds me of carrying my old Maglites back in the day. I don’t know, but the capacity and power of my Shockli cells is greatly appreciated. Thanks Sofirn for reaming the battery tube large enough to use these nice cells!

I predict a good deal of these being sold. What a light for such a good price!

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Got my SP33 today, while it’s essentially the same physical light as the one I already had the UI is much different and I find the beam profile just plain ugly. I had to go ahead and slice and dice it to get rid of the horrid aura. The focus is still showing a dark or discolored center to the hot spot. Not sure why Sofirn went with an orange peel reflector for this emitter. Out of the box mine was very cool white, the slice and dice cleared that up and it’s a lot nicer tint now.

For anyone that is going to mod theirs, be careful removing the centering ring… mine was tight enough to do damage to the dome when it came off. This impacted how good a job I could do slicing it as there were splits in the silicone from the torque of the centering ring removal.

The font is different and they added a serial number to this new one.

There is an o-ring that seats low, deep set around the reflector and the bezel bottoms out on it… this o-ring is too large and quite tricky to get back in. I advise leaving it in place if you can, much easier than stuffing the marshmallow back into the piggy bank if you remove it or have it pop out on you while modding… Wink

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Thanks Dale, can you give a quicky description of how you go about slicing and dicing for the uninitiated ? Would you say it is about 5000K now? Mine too is too cool.

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Upon closer inspection, these are not the same physical flashlight at all. Still called the SP33, but virtually everything about it is different… it’s longer, wider, has OP reflector vs the original mirror finish, glued in driver vs the brass retaining ring of the original, a smaller spring stuck into an indention in the base of the tail cap vs a large diameter spring that is as wide as the entire inside diameter of the tail cap on the original. Different at every turn…

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Wow, longer and wider. It really is different. I thought they only made a few small changes to the body.

The reflector is very slight OP. Practically SMO. I guess they did the light OP just to get rid of a few artifacts because the beam reminds me of a SMO.

I don’t notice any dark spot in the beam center of mine.

I don’t have a serial number either.

Hmmm, odd.

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Where the triangle and HOT! Warning is, there is a very very small serial number. See if it’s on yours Jason. I almost missed it…

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Slight OP on my defective model No dark spot in center beam No serial number.

Edit :  man, that's the smallest serial numbering i ever saw..had to put on head loupe hi mag...SF18K191.

Eco mode is FUBAR on this sample. It can't be activated when the torch has sat and reached room temp. Otherwise all other functions are good.

I love the light. I was refunded entire purchase price. Will get another when they hit Amazon USA.

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Where the triangle and HOT! Warning is, there is a very very small serial number. See if it’s on yours Jason. I almost missed it…

Yeah, I didn’t even notice.


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Just got my SP33 kit in the mail the other day, and while I really like the light itself, the included 26650 battery appears completely dead (and kind of old too; it’s got tons of wear on the negative end). Good thing the light also works with 18650s, so I could at least test it out. Working on a resolution through AliExpress now…

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Bummer that you got a bad battery. Do both ends look used or just the negative? It would be strange if it’s just the one end.

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The negative end’s got the most visible scratches to it, but holding a light at an angle to the positive end also reveals some light scratches. If it was only the positive end, I probably wouldn’t think much of it – could’ve gotten shaken around inside the light during transport. But since the negative end was shipped with a paper disc over top, the fact that it looks scraped up makes the cell all the more suspect…

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I checked my 2 more closely today….

  • Fit n’ finish on both is very good
  • Reflectors seem well done, both are what I would call Medium Orange Peel
  • I really like the size of this single 26650 light. The size is a big plus as is the relatively cheap price for this quality light.
  • Both have a greenish halo around the hot spot & that same greenish spot in the middle of the hot spot. Somewhat ugly if you get right down to it, especially indoors… outdoors is not so bad or as noticeable. To me anyway…
  • The switches on both of mine are somewhat finicky. Sometimes they will cycle through L > M > H and sometimes they won’t. It is almost as if the driver has to warm up a bit after sitting a while??? I’ll have to check it out some more.
    One unit is much worse than the other. This may well require attention…. we shall see though. Edit: This was ‘operator error’. The ‘short clicks’ need to be fast & crisp.
  • The double click to Turbo must be extremely fast to work. This is not a complaint, just an observation.
  • One unit was ordered as a ’26650 Kit’. While I have not tested the capacity of the battery yet, it seems to be a decent battery.
  • Both have Serial Numbers (very tiny) right under the warning word ‘HOT’ on the head.

That ‘be’ all for now….

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I got my 2nd SP33 for unbelievable sale in my country Shoppe.TH Sofirn store (SP33 and SP10A for 20 $ Ughh ) so I sliced dome for some throw and warmer tint

Left Sliced dome vs Right stock one

!20181226-000037!

It much better to my eye and it lost only 7% of brightness from ceiling bounce app

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Hello!

My Sofirn SP33 arrived on 24th Dec. Sofirn needed from 11.11. to 26.11. to give it to post. Not very good.

My first impression was: good light, well machined, fits very good in my hand.

My second impression: Disappointment. Really just disappointment.
Why? The light is far away from that what I was awaiting from a 2500Lumen light.

The beam is fine beside of the awful yellowish center and spill. The rest is coolwhite, at least more cool than my BLF A6 3d which is rated with 5000K (and is my favorite color atm). The yellowish center does look like a donut hole. Not what I expected.

But the really disappointment to me:
The light is too gloomy! When comparing to the BLF A6 (both on Turbo) I would call them same brightness on about 15-20m distance. When laying one beam on the other I can only distinguish them from the beam color.

This is really disappointing to me, where are the ~900Lm gone?

I really wanted a light which is significantly brighter than the BLF A6.

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Is your light going to turbo? It does the low, med, high, then double click to turbo?

I measured Turbo at 2200 lumen. Way more than a single xpl can achieve.

I think the A6 is maybe 1400lm with a good high drain cell? So there is not a huge difference. The A6 will get weaker as the battery drains. Plus it will get hot really fast. The SP33 has the advantage of a more powerful led that is run at a lower output. It maintains turbo all the way down to 3.70 volt, plus runs much cooler.

BTW, the xhp50.2 and 70.2 all have that yellow corona. There’s not much you can do about it, although DB Custom says that slicing and dicing it can make it look better. I suppose you could put in a xhp50 to get a nicer tint, but it will likely have a donut hole hotspot (dark in the middle).

Also, all shipping from China this time of year is much slower due to their holidays.

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/\….. What Jason said & what I posted in your other thread, quoted below.

Oh yeah…. you would be hard pressed to blame the 15 day delay between order & posting on Sofirn. Most likely this delay lies with AliExpress. They are most always slow to get things out & this super busy time of year only makes it worse.

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1434229#comment-1434229

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lfowner wrote:

Hello!

My Sofirn SP33 arrived on 24th Dec. Sofirn needed from 11.11. to 26.11. to give it to post. Not very good
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I really wanted a light which is significantly brighter than the BLF A6.

Hmmm, your positive you have double clicked the SP33 & have it in Turbo Mode??
The reason I ask is that my Sofirn SP33 is definitely brighter than my BLF A6 with both on Turbo….. and both with freshly charged batteries.

With the SP33 on High & the A6 on Turbo, to the eye they appear about the same brightness.
My SP33 is a bit warmer than my 1A ‘A6’ & cooler than my 3D ‘A6’.

I have not measured the output of either light, this is simply my visual observation…. but the SP33 is surely brighter to my eyes when matched Turbo to Turbo.

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I ordered my SP33 from Sofirn’s Aliexpress store Nov 14. Got a tracking update Dec 22 showing my order was processed through CHINA, GUANGZHOU.
6 weeks after ordering, my light is still in China.

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I ordered my SP33 from Sofirn’s Aliexpress store Nov 14. Got a tracking update Dec 22 showing my order was processed through CHINA, GUANGZHOU.
6 weeks after ordering, my light is still in China.
Ouch…. looks like you lost the ‘AliExpress Shipping Lottery’…. Facepalm .. Sad .. Sad

My package was only 7 days from the time of order placement to when the package was actuall accepted by the shipping company. 26 days total from order to delivery for the package containing the SP33’s.

Maybe yours got lost in the mayhem of the China Shipping nightmare. Or maybe I just got lucky with mine. Because honestly, this is the fastest I have ever received anything from AliExpress.

I ordered Sofirn CO1’s on 21 November & they are supposed to be here 29 December according to the USPS, who has them now. That will be 38 days from time order was placed.

Good luck…. there is no figuring this China shipping stuff out??? Facepalm

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I guess I won the ‘AliExpress Shipping Lottery’….. for the first time ever!! Big Smile

I placed my order 23 November 2018 & mine just Processed Through Facility ISC MIAMI FL (USPS) today. (13 December).

It should be here soon… “should” being the operative word. Thumbs Up . Wink

Mine arrived today, 19 December; (SP33 Kit / SP33 / SP31 V2.0 Kit / SP10A V2.0) 26 days from placement of order. My best time ever for AliExpress.

I am totally impressed with the the SP33 (and the others too as far as that goes). Nice size light & the ‘Fit n’ Finish’ is “Sofirn Perfect”!! Thumbs Up

Totally satisified with this light as with all my Sofirns. Smile

TRACKING Info from placement of order on 23 November to delivery on 19 December. _ (SP33 × 2, SP10 V2.0, SP31 V2.0)_
….

2018-12-19 13:29

【GADSDEN,35903】Delivered, Front Door/Porch

……………..

2018-12-19 09:54

【GADSDEN,35903】Out for Delivery

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2018-12-19 09:44

【GADSDEN,35903】Sorting Complete

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2018-12-19 09:20

【GADSDEN,35903】Arrived at Unit

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2018-12-18 16:17

【BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENTER ANNEX】Arrived at USPS Regional Destination Facility

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2018-12-18 00:00

In Transit to Next Facility

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2018-12-17 00:00

In Transit to Next Facility

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2018-12-16 13:24

【OPA LOCKA FL DISTRIBUTION CENTER】Departed USPS Regional Facility

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2018-12-16 00:00

In Transit to Next Facility

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2018-12-15 18:29

【OPA LOCKA FL DISTRIBUTION CENTER】Arrived at USPS Regional Facility

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2018-12-15 05:39

Inbound Out of Customs

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2018-12-13 13:16

【ISC MIAMI FL (USPS)】Processed Through Facility

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2018-12-01 05:15

【CHINA,GUANGZHOU EMS】Processed Through Facility

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US
Destination Country
2018-11-30 18:44

【CHINA】Acceptance
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Order Date:2018-11-23 09:20

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JasonWW wrote:
Is your light going to turbo? It does the low, med, high, then double click to turbo?
Yes, yes, it does all what it is claimed to do.

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I think the A6 is maybe 1400lm with a good high drain cell?
30Q.

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BTW, the xhp50.2 and 70.2 all have that yellow corona.
Didn’t know that before.

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Also, all shipping from China this time of year is much slower due to their holidays.
I’m buying from China since more than 14 years, this was one of the slowest shipping I ever remembered.
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teacher wrote:
Most likely this delay lies with AliExpress. They are most always slow to get things out & this super busy time of year only makes it worse.
Maybe, and I know that there is much to do on days like 11.11.. But as I said: this was the slowest shipping I’ve ever noticed, first shipping note is from 26.11. while I’ve bought on 11.11.. Much too slow.
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I tend to agree with Ifowner on this one, it’s not an aliexpress issue, it’s a sofirn issue with how long they took to dispatch 11.11 sale items…

I purchased some liikota chargers literally in the same 11.11 transaction and received them before the SP33 shipping notice even came.

Personally I love the light now that I have it and the only complaint I can lodge [about the light itself] is the glue on the driver but I won’t be buying from sofirn in China again (their amazon store sure, if they stock anything there I want) but I don’t understand why people are defending them on slow dispatch times. Make the guy try to feel less bad, sure. But defend them? I don’t get the angle there…

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lfowner wrote:
teacher wrote:
Most likely this delay lies with AliExpress. They are most always slow to get things out & this super busy time of year only makes it worse.
Maybe, and I know that there is much to do on days like 11.11.. But as I said: this was the slowest shipping I’ve ever noticed, first shipping note is from 26.11. while I’ve bought on 11.11.. Much too slow.

There are at least 2 parts to the shipping. First is for the flashlight company to box up the order, then it goes through the mail. Since shipping out of China is so complicated, some companies use 3rd party shippers. The factory gives the package to them and then they figure out how to get it out of China. All I know is that it’s a very complicated process.

I’m not surprised it took 2 weeks for the company to box and ship the order. The 11.11 sales are huge. Then another month for the postage is also not surprising.

I ordered stuff on the last 11.11 sale and it took about 2 months. I’ve also ordered stuff away from the holidays and it took 2.5 to 3 months. The average is closer to 2 weeks, though.

I just learned to order and not think about it too much. It’s much less stressful that way.

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Cereal_killer wrote:
I tend to agree with Ifowner on this one, it’s not an aliexpress issue, it’s a sofirn issue with how long they took to dispatch 11.11 sale items…

You do realize Aliexpress is just an overall selling platform like eBay and not an actual store, right? So each store you buy from has their own stock of items, sales people, order boxers, etc… so it’s all random. Stores that sale very little on 11.11 might be able to ship quick. Stores that sell a ton of stuff might take longer to ship. How many employees does the store have? If an item is not in stock or sales out, they may have to wait a bit for more to come off the assembly line. As the customer, we really have no clue what is going on over there. The store might ship it out in just days, but the China post might not register the package until weeks later.

Unless you have a middle man like Neal over there that can see the packages go out, you don’t really know what is going on.

Maybe you can ask Sofirn why it seems they took 2 weeks to ship. Maybe they will answer?

I don’t pay much mind to it.

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I tend to agree with Ifowner on this one, it’s not an aliexpress issue, it’s a sofirn issue with how long they took to dispatch 11.11 sale items…
(snip) …….
……. but I don’t understand why people are defending them on slow dispatch times. Make the guy try to feel less bad, sure. But defend them? I don’t get the angle there…
I’m not trying to start a fight or anything and I am really not defending anyone. I just think there is a lot involved with shipping from China that we as customers have little idea about.

And after reading what JasonWW wrote (quoted below) I’m thinking to place blame is probably short sided on our part. Whether it be me blaming AliExpress or someone else blaming a vendor.

In other words, what Jason said sums it up very nicely.

JasonWW wrote:
(snip) As the customer, we really have no clue what is going on over there. The store might ship it out in just days, but the China post might not register the package until weeks later. (snip)

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Crazy number of people living in Shenzhen, where most of our goods come from. Ridiculous mountains of packages pile up at the postal centers, especially this time of year. Glad it’s not ME having to wade through the building sized mounds of boxes and bubble packs…

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It is a wonder they get here as quick as they do, or at all…. Facepalm
This….. is crazy. Wink
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You mean to tell me that my $5 trinket isn’t hand-delivered on a velvet pillow to a waiting private jet to get to me?

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 I think I spotted my package from Teacher's post in the image below, it's the blue one in the middle............ approx. eta, about July 2020

 

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Yeah, I’m having issues with AliExpress right now. They’re saying orders completed that I haven’t received and tracking numbers that are worthless.

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 I think I spotted my package from Teacher’s post in the image below, it’s the blue one in the middle………… approx. eta, about July 2020



 

No, no, no way! That blue package in the middle is the one I ordered. Crazy

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