What?? You mean, I missed some posts by He Who Must Not Be Named? How long has Lord Voldemort been a member? :sunglasses:
But look, Iām really sorry I rubbed your fur the wrong way, RC. If you wouldnāt prevaricate by claiming I am something Iām not, I wouldnāt have called you out. But hey, Iām willing to let bygones be bygones if you are. Scoutās honor. Pax? 
Nice try, Lightbringer, CRX and others. Itās just not worth it, and itās definitely not worth getting irritated about. We have to remember this is the internet, and keyboard warriors, and all that. It does make me wish there was an ignore feature on BLF. Nonetheless, I like it as it is.
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āThat turned out even worse mostly because of CRX.ā
Yes. How dare he disagree with you, even if he was right.
@ RC,not being flippant, and not based solely on this quote, I honestly believe you have developed issues that you should have professionally addressed.
Or, just resume your disorder works too. 
I knew a woman who had a lot of health problems. She didnāt like hospitals and regular doctors. She had one doctor she trusted and went to regularly. Iām not sure that he was a real doctor but he probably had a following online and spread a lot of facts about his preferred treatment for everything. I suppose you could call him a natural doctor.
Anyway, sheās dead now of a completely treatable illness.
Her kids are still in grade school.
Iām sure the doctor meant well but in my opinion he murdered her.
Iām not usually one to defend RC and he can be a little abrasive at times but I understand where he is coming from on this one.
I believe in free speech.
People sometimes die because they use treatments that are spread on the internet that dont work.
Iām not sure how those two things fit together.
What greatly disturbs this thread from being informative and useful is not the posting of different opinions about the facts (which I like to hear), but posting lies/misinformation, mostly easy to debunk but sometimes so fancy made that they are even difficult to pinpoint. Misinformation undermines any usefulness of this thread and zero interests me. Misinformation is not arbitary and easy to recognise and I try to debunk misinformation every now and then, like others do. The misinformation in this thread is posted consistently by the same few BLF-members whose intention is clearly not providing useful information, and Iām likely too naive to guess what their real intentions are.
So to answer your question: this is not about right or wrong information, but about correct and false information. This does not require an arbiter but it requires checking the facts and sources.
Sometimes the facts and sources have us hopping from one foot to the other though as time passes.
(Sorry, no facts or sources links) 
This made me laugh.
Masks donāt work. Masks make it worse. Maybe masks work, but not for you, it helps others. Ok masks work. Everyone has to wear masks or be arrested.
But not police officers.
Stay in your home or garden, but if we see you we will order you to go inside or try to arrest you on your own property.
You can exercise but if we see you driving all alone to a secluded exercise spot we will stop and fine you.
Itās not airborne. It may be airborne. Itās airborne, but only to 6 feet. Itās airborne, but to 20 feet. Itās airborne and stays in the air for 3 hours. Maybe it isnāt airborne after all, air and sunshine kill it. Go outside, it will make you feel better.
It lasts on surfaces for under an hour. Maybe a week. Maybe a day. We donāt think getting it from surfaces is a vector of transmission. Wash all your groceries. You canāt get it from eating food. Make sure to cook takeout food to 250 degrees to kill any virus on it. Eating out is fine, as long as youāre outside.
You canāt get it twice. Wait, you can actually have it and it can reappear once itās gone. Nevermind, that was poor testing, you canāt get it twice. Having it may not give any immunity to getting it again. Ah shit, we donāt know, but weāre making a vaccine which may work. It may not work also, but youāre going to have to get it to do anything in life. But we arenāt forcing it on you, itās your choice. If you donāt want it, you can just live at home and never go to work or school or the grocery store again, and you also canāt see anyone in your family, but itās your choice we arenāt forcing it on you, but it may work but it may also not work but you have to have it. Vaccines take 3 years to make, but we can get this done in 2 years while staying to safety guidelines. We canāt wait for safety guidelines, weāre going to have it ready by fall.
The peak is going to be April 5th. 10 days to slow the spread! 15 days to slow the spread! 30 days to slow the spread! Itās going to kill 3 million Americans. Itās going to kill 250k Americans. Itās going to kill 30k Americans. No 60k. No 50k. 45 days to slow the spread! The peak is coming May 1st. The peak is coming June 15th. The peak is actually a different peak for every state. Itās actually a different peak for every city in every state. 90 days to slow the spread! We hit our peak. We havenāt hit our peak yet. We arenāt going to hit our peak.
Our hospitals are overwhelmed, weāve run out of ventilators and people are dying at home.
Our hospitals are closing up because nobody is in them, nurses are being furloughed. We have an abundance of ventilators, weāre giving them to other countries. Ventilators save lives.
Our hospitals are overwhelmed! Quick build some 5000 capacity Nightingale units.
Nightingale hospitals have only seen 35 patients each, weāre closing them down after a month.
We need to send nurses & doctors home.
Covid tests give a lot of false positives but are reliable.
95% of deaths are now covid related.
Heart attack - covid. Car crash - covid.
Covid tests may give false positives and also some from China may have covid pre-installed.
Itās just a little āshared sacrificeā. Some are sharing the sacrifice by being unemployed, some are sharing the sacrifice by eating Jeniās ice cream out of their 24k freezer instead of going to Capitol Hill and doing their job. Weāre in the Greater Depression, but the economy is great and weāre going to bounce right back out of this.
Some people count on every penny from their job to cover the cost of living, weāll give you 80% of that,no pressureā¦
Stay inside, save lives and donāt be selfish. Go outside, sunlight kills the virus. If you go outside, you will be arrested. Eating outside may be the path forward for restaurants in the summer. Support your local restaurants, but stay inside.
Weāve got drones watching remote beauty spots for lockdown offenders.
Weāre ruining lakes with dyes to deter visitors.
Ok we stopped with the spy drones but weāre watching park benches now.
We will jail lockdown offenders.
We will release criminals due to covid.
HCQ, zinc, and zpack can save lives. HCQ is actually very dangerous. Trials show HCQ, zinc and zpack reduces duration of virus when given early. VA trials show HCQ killed most people who took it.
China patents Remdesivir for use against coronavirus. Two months later, US thinks Remdesivir may help against coronavirus. Trials show Remdesivir doesnāt help against coronavirus. Trials show Remdesivir helps against coronavirus.
Studies show majority of transmission is between families living together. Enforced lockdowns, you must stay at home with your family. If one of you gets sick, we are thinking of taking you out of your house and put you in quarantine.
The old are mostly at risk.
We are forcing elderly care homes to take covid infected.
Stay inside or die of infection but being packed into public transport and supermarkets is ok.
No, wait, itās only ok if you stay 2m apart.
Wear a mask but our checkout staff are immune so they donāt have to. But stay on the yellow footprints.
And we had some top officials telling us to stay in lockdown while galavanting around seeing their bits on the side, second homes, driving around to test if they could drive to their second home etcā¦
Face masks made compulsory on PT after three months in England but not Scotland.
Hey RC, whatās your problem ?! calm down, breathe, relaxā¦ 
itās all good.
What are you talking about, what blatant lies or conspiracy theories ?? Iām just trying to help others, and each one here I suppose is trying to help everyone, too.
If you only read those !!! You didnāt even click the links that I posted or even watched the videosā¦ you jumped after 3 minutes, and said lies or āconspiracy theoriesā, without reading and watching anythingā¦
If you canāt see how blatantly theyāre fighting and hiding them, then thatās your problem.
Being healthy all the time doesnāt fit the agenda of pharmaceutical companies ?! I guess. They make more than 1 Trillion dollars every year from sick peopleā¦ BIG profitā¦ you know.
Can you see whatās going on here ?! itās simple, you donāt have to be a genius to see the pattern here.
Do you love being manipulated easily ?! you are free to be manipulated, thatās your choice 
If you are waiting for a fancy magic potion, or a chemical poison, or some useless vaccine crap, then good for youā¦ again, youāre free, and no one is forcing you to do otherwise.
Iām just showing everyone that there are working, cheap and effective treatments.
These holistic doctors are treating people and they are getting betterā¦ whatās wrong with that ? whatās wrong in living a healthy lifestyle and never being sick ?!! ā¦ thatās a good thing, isnāt it ?
Iāve joined dozens of groups on Facebook, and there are real people getting better from all these āalternativeā and natural cures and treatmentsā¦
I know personally few people whoāve been taking lugolās iodine and other supplements, and being healed from so many diseasesā¦
Iāve been taking Lugolās iodine myself for the last 2.5 years, 2 drops daily = 12.5 mg, 5 days per week, 2 days offā¦ (on and off), I feel much better than beforeā¦ and I had no cold or flu for 2.5 yearsā¦ Coincidence? I donāt think so.
My daughter contracted Covid-19 and for nine days had a low grade fever ( never got above 99.5 F ) , mild body aches and some chills . She did not lose her sense of smell or taste and said the worst part of it was the constant fatigue . She is 27 years old and was (and is) in good health .
When she felt ill she went to the doctor on the first day . There she was tested for Influenza Type A and Type B in order to rule out the āregularā flu . Having tested negative for those , she was told that she probably did have Covid-19 and was tested for it . She was confirmed positive two days later .
On day 10 she texted to say that she felt normal . On day 13 she went back to the doctor and was tested again for Covid-19 and was declared free of the virus .
She has been taking it easy and says she is feeling better every day .
Another acquaintance said his 20 year old son was only sick ( from Covid ā19 ) for two days .
Iām confidant that most healthy people who contract this virus will have a few crappy days and then theyāll be ok .
@Thunderay, slitting your throat (not you personally) is a good and permanent way of getting rid of the virus (ALL of them )
Death is a definite natural cure, but I am not going to try it until mother nature says ātimes upā :disappointed:
As this is a thread about Covid19 I must assume you are stating these quacks holistic doctors have a cure for it, you can believe whatever you want, I believe it is a load of smelly stuff in the bull paddock.
Cheers David 
That was great fun to read :+1:
It sums up what the message is to people while the science on COVID-19 is in development and the best advice is changing all the time, and governments try to translate the science into regulation which is continuously lagging behind the newest insights. People can only cope with a clear story, but there is no clear story, it is what it is: muddle along with a new disease and hope that what you do does a good enough job handling it. The directions that science provides sure get better over time, two years ahead we know very well how to handle this disease, but there is no time to wait for that, in a clumsy way every government tries to fight the disease. But I can not help noticing that mixing politics with fighting a pandemic appears to be counterproductive.
@ raccoon city, please avoid this thread from now on.
To everyone else: Sorry for letting this thread run wild. I havenāt been closely monitoring it recently, but I now see the need to be more vigilant here. So I share some of the responsibility for whatās gone on here during the past few days. But itās also very clear proof of the validity of the core principles that Iāve been echoing here ad nauseum. Specifically:
So please use this thread exclusively for discussing personal experiences with the Coronavirus and non-controversial news. Iāll be especially vigilant from here on out to make sure that the BLF Rules are followed and enforced in this thread. Again, sorry for not intervening sooner.
To everyone: Please go back over your posts in the last few pages of this thread since it recently turned ugly and edit/delete your posts if necessary in order to follow the rules. Thanks in advance!
sb. 
Thank you sb
You want to know why I and a few other like-minded people post info that the majority doesnāt agree with? Iāll tell you. Hereās my motivation.
Because I see, and I care.
Have I been 100% correct on everything Iāve posted? No. Nobody bats 1.000 for more than a day. But Iām confident that my batting average is better than CBS, NBC, and ABCās. Maybe because MSM is a business that has to turn a profit, whereas Iāve been reporting what I see for free. (I guess thatās over, though.)
No matter what people think or say about me, donāt expect me to stop caring.
(edit) : sb posted while I was typing. So I got a surprise when I hit āsave.ā
sb, you have my respect. I dont know how you put up with it, it would drive me crazy.
This is a common example of the misunderstanding that I tried to clear up in my last post. (I understand that we were simultaneously typing responses, so Rexlion didnāt see my prior post.) Iām not accusing anyone of posting incorrect information, nor am I questioning their motives for posting here. The only fact I care about in the context of this forum is that a lot of what has appeared in this thread recently has led to nasty arguments, and thatās my only purpose here, to prevent that from happening. Not to be a thought-police officer or fact-check each and every statement.
Exactly. Even Bill Cooper made it his mantra to warn others to not believe anyone ā not even him ā until you check out things for yourself.
The problem is when treatments which have been shown to work, and quite well, are dismissed by The Authorities, and treatments (eg, vaccines) which can potentially be harmful or even deadly get official sanction. This Has Happened. So people just trying to keep up are naturally confused, and naturally (and deservedly) donāt trust those who claim to have a monopoly on The Trvth.
And yet, any dissenting voices are immediately howled down. HOCQ and Zn? Shown to work, cheap, etc., but Officially Poo-Pooed. āMore harm than good.ā Umm, really? Some docs used that exclusively with much less of a death-rate than in purportedly First World hospitals.
So what usually happens is that discussion is completely shut down, and only One Voice is allowed. No oneās talking about inhaling bleach, well, hopefully not.
I guess what it all boils down to, is thereās a huge difference in replying to a ādifferent viewā with, āOkay, I see where youāre coming from, but hereās info showing why thatās a bad ideaā¦ā and, āYouāre a troll! Shut up!ā.
Hell, I learned to not even mention colloidal silver here, because I immediately get surrounded by a gaggle of howler-monkeys hooting me down, and often quite rudely. So yay, They Win. Yet I know from firsthand personal experience, on myself, that it works, and amazingly well. Colds, flus, burns, scrapes, deep cuts, etc. Yet I canāt even relate those experiences, because then the howler-monkeys will swing from their respective trees and hoot me down again.
One Voice is thus preserved.