Made me laugh too—spit coffee all over my keyboard. Thanks for sharing.
Hjeh, that was a better and more thorough checklist than even I could come up with. :laughing:
And exemplifies the point perfectly!
I respectfully disagree sir, and this goes for everyone else arguing back and forth in this thread
it is poor nettiquette to hijack a thread to argue with each other… dont police each others posts… just say what you think and let others do the same… Do NOT Argue in public, work it out privately!
example
sally says: mommy, johnny hit me
johnny says: mommy, shes lying, I didnt do anything
mommy says:
Both of you are on time out. Im not going to figure out who is right, Im just going to punish both of you. I need some peace and quiet around here.
Do what I say, not what I do :person_facepalming:
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my college daughters roommate went to New York and got sick in March. no diagnosis. Roommate recovered in 2 weeks, returned and self quarantined for 2 more weeks in her bedroom, while my daughter wore a mask when delivering food to her door.
In May an antibody test for corona was positive for the roommate. In June the antibody test was negative. My daughter tests negative.
corona antibodies dont last a lifetime like they do with measles
But…but then the thread would only contain facts, alternative facts and opinions.
What’s fun about that?
You’re all crazy. I’m the only sane one. Don’t believe me? Just ask me.
DIBS on the T-shirt franchise for that.
The sad thing about the CRX post is that it accurately covers a lot of what we have been told over the past few months. The good thing about it is that it’s hilarious. 
Think back to the HIV start and all the fear and speculation about how it was transmitted. It takes a while to understand these things and nail down the facts. Changing information is normal. How different press outlets handle this info is on them.
This Synthetic antibody looks promising;
Convinced that the brilliant minds of the world with help of computers will come up with various safe treatments soon.
Stay safe!
Or we could all turn into mutant cannibalistic zombies…
Yeah, the most credible doctors and epidemiologists I’ve listed to in podcasts and interviews about this crisis are the ones that admit “we don’t know yet”. There’s one in particular who frequently says: “I know less about this virus now than I did two months ago”, and he always stresses the need for the medical community to be humble about admitting what they simply don’t/can’t know yet. Anybody (even medical professionals) that makes dogmatic statements with absolute certainty is not very credible.
Wellp, here’s a bit of good news…
Anywhere from 6:1 to maybe 24:1? If those estimates mean anything (and they’ve been done in enough states to support the overall thought), most people who get the virus never feel very ill; a lot of them probably never knew they had it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I’ve had it. (And I’m over 60.) My throat felt scratchy a couple of times, and one of those days (just one) I felt really tired. Otherwise, fine. But I don’t eat junk food, not even very many processed meals. And I have been taking a multivitamin with chelated minerals for the last 25 years. So I never felt ‘at risk.’
I got permission from sb to make one post in this thread, as long as it isn't controversial in nature.
I want to apologize for making insults and accusations.
I will try much harder not to insult or accuse people in the future.
So, once again, I am sorry, and I will try to do better.
(Now it's time for me to delete a bunch of off-topic posts in this thread, as per sb's directions.)
I wasn’t planning on it, but since you asked, I finally watched the entire video and took (lots of) notes. But now I don’t know what’s allowed in this thread anymore:
To be fair, controversial subjects were always against BLF rules.
It’s just annoying when people don’t follow rules, then the rules become stricter, which means the rules are being breached even more thoroughly and frequently that they get considered even less, which leads to even stricter rules… until almost nothing is allowed and virtually everyone is guilty.
I was weighing a response to some other posts too, but it’s a tough call: either don’t respond and allow misinformation to go unchallenged which has substantial societal long-term risk, or respond and break rules. eg. the explicitly banned V-word has continued to come up.
The asymmetry of the situation rewards those who flout the rules.
Tempting to just say:
but even that is a losing proposition.
Exactly, under normal circumstances I would have closed this thread a long time ago. But it’s just such a massive event that has affected all of our lives in one way or another, and even if I were to close this thread I’m sure the topic would pop up elsewhere. At least here all the moderation difficulties are all in one place. Plus it feels kind of insensitive to the humanity to blanket-prohibit the entire topic. There have to still be personal experiences and news items that aren’t controversial, I think we can all agree that being sick and/or being out of work is a Bad Thing™. A lot of the stats and studies are also very interesting, if not necessarily accurate.
Entirely possible. I know people who’ve just been “feeling down”, low energy, etc., so who knows if they didn’t pick up some bugs, fight ’em off, and recover without even knowing they caught anything.
Hell, on a coupla occasions (before the heat kicked in), I fell asleep on the covers vs under ’em, and woke up shivering, like actual full-body shivering. Got under the covers, eventually stopped shivering, fell back to sleep, woke up fine the next day.
Funny thing is, I hadn’t even gone out of the house but 3-4 times to quick shopping runs, so doubted I could’ve picked up anything except by licking the shopping-cart handle. :confounded:
Could I have picked up a light-enough viral load to “catch” something but shake it off almost immediately? Yeh. Doubt it, but possible. Could’ve just been my thermostat dropping a bit too low during the night.
And therein lies the problem. Without a formal and reliable test, ie, none of this test-positive then test-negative then rinse/repeat a few more times, there’s no reliable way to know if anyone had it, fought it off, has antibodies, or could even pick it up again. We. Just. Don’t. Know.
And exactly like someone (gaaah, forgot who… djozz? ah, our very own sb) mentioned, those who seem most sure of themselves are typically the least trustworthy. It’s that phrase “I don’t know” that leads people to learn.
So unfortunately, I get the feeling this plague will be around for a looooong time before anyone gets any meaningful (and correct) answers. And that’s only if politics and finances stay out of it. As long as The Authorities maintain the Official Narrative and other dissenting voices are dismissed or even censored, there’ll always be more questions than answers. More of We Just Don’t Know, yet They™ won’t admit it.
And that can (and likely will) end up costing lives.
I dont know about anyone else, but I have trouble identifying the ‘problem’…… maybe Ive contributed at times…… I dunno. I just look at each user/post as a different person with their own opinion. That is all it is, an opinion. You cant look at opinions as attacks on how you feel about something. Ive learned from experience that few will agree with me and even less vice versa but the more input I have to work with, good & bad, the better…. in order to justify my ‘opinion’. 
I get that. I don't in the slightest envy your moderating role.
With 95.37% of all statistics being made up, sprinkled with assertions of motives, unsubstantiated claims of knowledge, logical fallacies too numerous to keep up with, "interesting" quickly morphs into "dangerous".
Some may argue "live and let live" and "to each their own". But in a society, "no man is an island", or individuals are not independent of each other. Others' views and behaviors end up affecting many others. Therefore, failure to address inaccuracies ends up harming not only those who hold them, but also oneself in the end.
How I wish this were not so; it would spare me a lot of effort.