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Does anyone know how the KR1 beam profile ( angle, size of hot spot, amount of spill, etc) as well as throw distance compares with fireflies E01 Mini thrower with Osram?
Thanks

Its on pre-order so those specs wouldn’t be known by consumers yet, as for throw I don’t trust fireflies claims the beam profile on the E01 has a lot of rings from the corona and spill and looks pretty horrible.

I agree about the rings around the corona of the E01, but they don’t bothar me that much. I like it that the overall angle is narrower than any of my other lights so that it a) doesn’t waste lumens for the side spill and b) doesn’t blind people walking towards me on the side. The turbo has a bit of a bluish tint which I don’t like that much but I am ok with it; actually, surprisingly, the tint color depends on the type of battery I use, and the shittier battery the better the tint, go figure. And I also agree fireflies has somewhat a tendency to overstate the candella sometimes. I’ve yet to measure the Cd on it but it appears the throw is about 500m.

What I absolutely love about The E1 is its narrow angle. Would be great if TR1 also had an overall narrow angle, came though on the candella numbers and had a nice comparatively beefy hot spot.

That “angry blue” is your higher drain cells pushing the emitter well past a healthy level of current for it, since the white flats have a low Vf. Anything about 7-8A is too much for the WF2.

Makes sense! Thanks

Is it normal that my KR4 mule (8 x XP-L HI) takes quite a while to get “hot”? I’m using a fresh 30Q and it takes a good couple of minutes to get to what I would describe as “uncomfortable to hold”. By comparison, my 3 x XP-L HI FW3A takes about 10 seconds to become painful.

I know mules are obviously perceptively far less bright than a light with an optic to focus the beam, but it just doesn’t feel like it’s giving its all.

Are you definitely at turbo, and not top of ramp?
Turn on, press and hold until you get to top of ramp, then double click.

Yup! Ok maybe not a couple of minutes, but definitely not as fast as I would expect from 8 emitters.

What’s the difference In the beam between the w1 and w2 version? Where do the extra lumens go - larger hot spot or more side spill with W2?

My KR4 with XPL-Hi is definitely heating up very fast on Turbo, also the light output difference is huge.

i measured 4,99 A on max ceiling ramp and 10,3 A on Turbo on a not even complete full cell

That’s a whopping 40 W !

How can I measure the current? I know it’s not as easy with a tail switch. I have a clamp meter

Use the thick wire on the negative end of the cell and the outer tube, use a small wire to simulate the tapping of the e-switch on the inner tube and outer wall or negative end of the cell

BE CAREFUL THOUGH ! a mistake is very fast made and might end up in unwanted situations !

Thanks, I’ll see if my fingers are dexterous enough to give it a go!

LOL, someone complaining that their light doesn’t get scorching hot fast enough. :stuck_out_tongue: Heh. Wish my D4V2 had that problem (and didn’t step down so soon). :wink:

I’m guessing then that 10A through 4 emitters is not as efficient as 10A through 8 emitters. Each one is not being driven as hard, so isn’t heating up as fast.

OK I can’t get it any higher than 5.3A. Is something wrong with my KR4?

5.3 / 8 = 0.66A per emitter. Using the chart from an output test of another XP-L HI (admittedly cool white) that puts it at arouns 250lm per emitter, or about 2000lm in total. I measured 1800lm in my integrating sphere.

Could someone (perhaps Hank) confirm whether or not this is correct for the KR4 mule?

Hank do you plan to add xhp35 into the KR1? Don’t know if it is possible due to the dimensions but I would definitely buy one with xhp35 4000K.

Have you got a different 30q you could try?
What gauge was the wire you used to measure the current?

@hcanning

Are you sure you are in turbo mode?
switch on the light with one click and then double click for turbo
double click from off will give max ramp mode, not turbo

Same result with another 30Q and with a flat top VTC5A.

The wire is pretty chunky and it allows me to measure ~20A from my S2+ triple builds, so it should suffice :smiley:

The results are consistent. Exactly 5.4A (not 5.3) each time.

Positive. Top of ramp measures at ~4A.