Hi guys! I have a question about my MF01 V1. On a turbo mode, one group of LEDs does not work. On fully charged batteries, everything is OK. But as soon as the voltage on them falls to 3.5 volts, then in turbo mode one group of LEDs does not shine. This problem was initially, as soon as I received a flashlight from Banggood. What do you think about it?
^The 3.5V is the resting voltage of the batteries, or the voltage under load?
If it is the resting voltage, then the voltage under load may already be under 3V, and then the LVP (low voltage protection) may have kicked in. As the driver is clearly divided in three sections, each driving 6 leds, the LVP may also be implemented for each section individually. Since the voltage readout of flashlight drivers is usually not very precise, one group may have shut-down already while the other two groups have a bit lower voltage threshold and may kick in later. This delay will be a bit extended even because one group already shut off, decreasing the battery load so that the battery voltage goes up somewhat again.
(I’m not a MF-01 owner btw)
3.5-3.6V - resting voltage of the batteries
I wrote in support of Banggood, and here’s what they said to me:
“we are so sorry we are not sure if this problem was caused by the man-made damage”
Strange support, however.
That is your issue, there is nothing wrong with the light. 3.5v is practically a dead battery. Under load it’s probably dropping to 2.8v. I’m surprised turbo would even turn on.
Using HKJ’s comparator @10A for 30Q and VTC6 results in about 3.2V~3.3V with 3.5V resting voltage. I’m not familiar with driver designs, but my guess is that LVP is built in the controller, so either all three drivers work, or all three quit, as the voltage is below a specific value.
Of course. What I wrote is also a guess. I have noticed that other people’s guesses in general lead to thinking about what exactly might be going on; and this eventually helps in better understanding what is happening inside a flashlight.
You’re right! Now I measured the voltage under load (4*Sony VTC6), when one group of LEDs does not light up. In turbo mode this is 6.45V. This means that one battery gives ~ 3.2-3.3V.
I’ve never seen this info on his reviews. Then again, some of his tests are beyond my understanding. Can you show me where he tests a set resting voltage then applies a load on it?
Just select for example Sony VTC6 on the left, and Samsung 30Q on the right. Then you can select discharge rates, for example 0.2A (~ resting voltage) and 10A.
Edit:
The “trick” is to realise that discharge rate at 0.2A is pretty much the same as resting voltage. Just look at 0.2A and 0.5A; the two lines are dang close to each other compared to 5A or 10A. So this means that resting voltage line is just a hair above 0.2A line.