I bought 2 packs of the AA’s (all had a 6-6-2013 date code) yesterday and have these comments:
6 of the 8 batteries discharged from between 1025mAh to 1221mAh fresh out if the packs. One discharged to 12mAh and the last to 0mAh!!! Resting voltage after 30 minutes were .6v and 0v for the last 2. Ready to use depends on one’s definition I guess. This was all done on an Opus C3100 v2.1.
I tried charging the 0mAh battery on the Opus which then said it was full after pumping all of 6mA into it. I then threw it on an Accucel 6 and it registered full after 36mA. Better, but still a bit short of 2000mAh. Since I was going to bed I threw the 2 low reading batteries and well as 2 others into a Sony 4 channel (all independent channels charger) and let them charge overnight. In the morning the one that was initially 0v read 3.6v on my DMM while the others read around 1.44. I put the 3.6v battery back on the Opus and it took in 1100mA before the charger said it was full.
Discharging the 4 batteries yielded 2110, 2113, 2114 (the initial 12mAh battery) and 2071 (the 0mAh battery).
What does it all mean? Heck if I know. However 6 out of 8 batteries arrived with capacities around 50-60% or rated capacity. The other 2 were just a bit lower than that :). The 0mAh one took some effect to get charged and I’m not sure if the average user would be up to, or even able to, doing it.
I’m planning on charging the 2 low ones up and then discharging them in 3 months. Who knows, maybe those 2 aren’t LSD discharge, which a 3 month test should tell me.
Sounds like you bought a bad batch.
I bought four packs of AA and four packs of AAA last month, and all of them tested good and all tested above 1.27 volts out of the pack, and when i tested them on my BT-C3100 V2.1 all of the AA were between 1900 to 2050 mah average. You should return them as defective.
The closest Ikea is 45 minutes from my house so it would be more expensive to make a special trip there than the 2 odd cells are worth. Who knows, perhaps all it took was some cycles to get them up to speed. They all test out now over 2070 (even the 0volt one) so I’ll discharge them in a few months so see how they’re holding their charge. If they’re reasonable I’ll use them in some low drain devices and take out the better cells that are in there now.
Ladies, Gentleman & creatures from outerspace, I’m here to announce the final results of the 1 year testing!
LADDA AA #4 started with 2109 mAh
After a year 1197mAh is left. This is 56,76%
6 months ago remaining capacity was 72,27% so after another 6 months 15,51% is lost
LADDA AAA#4 started with 828mAh
After a year 534mAh is left. This is 64,49%
6 months ago remaining capacity was 75,28% so after another 6 months another 10,79% is lost.
I think this is the point where the eneloops really outperform the LADDA’s. I was hoping the AA would be around the same number as the AAA.
But all in all, looking at the pricepoint of the ladda’s I’d say stock up on them. Even if you need to recharge them maybe twice a year, they are still great for your everyday device.
Also keep in mind testing is done with a small sample and are therefor not entirely accurate, but it should give you a decent amount of information to form an opinion about them.
This ends my research on these. I hope it provided you with useful information
Hehehehe.
Don’t hold your breath, but who knows. I will be picking up some more from ikea when I’m there so there’s always a chance I’m having a crazy moment to start this all over.
Thank you for testing and sharing these date Johnydoe. It is highly valued.
I have some user experience with these.
A year ago I bought the first 8 AA ladda batteries. I've since bought more. Of the total of 16 batteries 3 have died.
I do not know if it is because I use them in my BLF group buy starry lights in medium or high a lot, if it is because I use my Intellicharger I4 and a high powered fast charger (that has build in cooling fans) or if it is because they have quality issues but the fact remains that these batteries die off at an alarming rate in my household.
I have other brand lsd batteries that lived and still live a lot longer. Just a heads up and a shout out to anyone who might have an idea of why my batteries die.
I have noticed that LADDA batteries that have been stored fully discharged for a long time (weeks) seems to have lost a lot of capacity the first time it is recharged. Perhaps as much as a third or half. But after 1-2 more cycles they are back at full/good capacity. So it is sort of a "short-term" memory effect. It's been the same with some other LSD-batteries as well, but it seems more noticeable with the LADDA batteries. But that may be because I have more of them...
I suspected that they were about to die, but I was wrong. So far I haven't had any LSD-batteries die for me, they have always been possible to refresh. And I use a lot of them. So it might be good to have a charger that can discharge to run refresh cycles. And to make sure to fully charge the LADDA batteries before storing them.
I typically use a MAHA MH-C9000 or a MAHA MH-C808M to refresh/charge.
Thanks, makes for easy priority, rarely used like glovebox lights get Eneloops, everything on a normal recharge cycle can use Ladda, and the frequently cycled get whatever is handy.
I wonder if the IKEA Ladda batteries are the same as the Amazon Basics Black batteries? The AAAs have the same 3 vent holes, the positive terminal has the same small cut in them and they both have a notch/groove on the body near the top. The AAs have the same 4 vent holes and notch/groove as well.
So cool! I went to IKEA today and spotted those batteries, I inspected them and was attracted by ready-to-use label (LSD yeah!) and low price point (1cent short of 4 Euros) so I picked 2pcs 4packs of AAs and 2pcs 4packs of AAAs not to waste Eneloop’s and Fujitsu’s in kids’ toys. First thig I did once home was query-ing BLF for info on them, and it is great to read those cells are good performers! I’m happy!!
Very unlikely to have a company putting; "made in China"on a product when they are actually made in Japan. So no, they aren't the same unless the amazon cells are also made in China.
Manufacturers have many ways of circumventing the law. If the battery is made in China and the packaging printed in Japan is more expensive then they can put made in Japan on it and it would perfectly legal. BMW, Audi, VW, Swiss watch brands and tons of other companies have been doing that for ages !
I recently bought some IKEA LADDA "ready to use" NiMHs. The local price was 4.99 and 6.99 euros per pack of 4(AAA and AA respectively) which I find reasonable in comparison. Still quite expensive and a huge mark up. But that's how the market is. There must be like 3 or 4 people in a small country such as Finland who know what a "LSD NiMH" is, and such a product's selling point is just "being ready for use". The typical battery shelf in a humongous hypermarket will have a couple of overpriced packs of CR123's and primary lithium AA's hidden somewhere between about 2 tons of expensive Duracell alkaleaks.
It's always sad when it actually makes sense to buy something from IKEA. The batteries had very consistent voltage in initial check, within a few millivolts from each other. I don't have an analyzing charger, but will take the word(including HKJ test data) for these being good batteries.
True. If that's the criteria in, say, Canada and U.S, someone like Amazon just might be selling the same Chinese batteries as Japanese. IKEA has to declare "made in China" as such fraud would be very illegal in many countries that have stricter rules for consumer protection. They buy in very massive bulk after all, and sell pretty much the same stuff globally. That's kinda their trademark.
Yes, that is the rule in North America and some European countries, but Chinese companies have now caught on too so they are now setting up shops in Europe making products with Chinese materials and workers and put the Made in Italy and Made in Switzerland so they can charge more for their finished goods. If you drink apple juice or take Vitamin B, it is 99% sure it is made in China, but the bottle will say made in your country ! …LoL
