Two issues come to mind, no protection on the 10440, and too hot if used for more than 30 seconds or so on high, which seems common to all lights this small when used with a 10440.
people do use 10440 in Tools, without frying the driver, 10440 is not supported officially for more reasons than just the possible loss of the boost driver
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It is possible to use 10440, and it isn’t officially supported because the driver is not rated for the voltage, there is no overdischarge protection, and no thermal protection. The Tool also is not regulated to produce the same lumen levels on each mode, on LiIon as on Primaries
you can use protected cells, some people do not use protected cells, the operator takes responsibility for not overdischarging
there is no thermal protection, that is the responsibility of the operator
Would like to know how long can the Copper Tool run on high with 10440 before it gets too hot to hold as I’m also looking to test the 10440 on my AAA lights?
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Which 10440 and charger do you use?
TIA
EDIT 2
Seems someone already answered my question before I asked lol
I think any small AAA light with a 10440 on high has about a minute before it gets a bit hot. People should keep in mind by the time the outside is hot, the inside is a lot hotter. When I use my i3s on high with a 10440 I shift back and forth between high and med, and treat high like a turbo mode.
I use the efest 10440, in…hmm. It’s that small Xtar charger. I forget the model.
And I run the Tool on high no more than about 80 seconds. Probably could go 10-15 seconds longer safely but I don’t like to risk it. And in any case on medium it seems fine for much longer. It gets warm but not hot. I don’t typically use a small light for all that long. But even after 5 minutes it was fine.
I seem to recall reading somewhere on this site that sometimes 10440 usage can make the Driver unusable to AAA’s after prolonged usage. So it’s a one-way trip if you do.
I had something similar happen in one of my first lights, a AA Hugsby, worked fine on AA, then on Li-Ion 4.2V, but then not on AA batteries afterwards.
Could be why Lumintop tool not recommended for 10440 use?
I respect that people use their lights in different ways and settings.
For my personal needs I dont want to use 10440 in a Tool, because I would lose the normal low and medium modes, which are what I use the most.
If someone wants to run a Tool on 10440 and still have the option for a low and medium below 40 lumens, look at the ToolVn
note that a 10440 will only run for a total of about 10 minutes on high, but it will definitely be bright!
this is not what Ive been reading from others who actually do it.
but anyway, if someone is invested in a charger, meter, and the skills to operate 10440, its their choice, they are intentionally not choosing to use Primary batteries… so for them, going “back” is not a priority. In fact the ToolVn is LiIon ONLY.
the question for me is, do I need hundreds of lumens for a few seconds at a time? no, personally I dont… If I did need hundreds of lumes, I would use a battery that would last longer, in a light that did not get too hot to hold… YMMV
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