Q8, PMS SEND TO THOSE WITH ISSUES BLF soda can light

Oh yeah, for the record Sam, the little EagTac D25C is capable of 1300 lumens like the Titanium version I just modded for my buddy. :wink:

I could loan him my watch to take with him. First impressions are everything

Heck yeah, that’ll work. :+1:
The “campaign” is gaining momentum. …… :wink:

Slight tangent here but since the eagletac d25c was mentioned, I now need to buy it. Which one are y’all referring to? I see a couple, one titanium version and one clicky? Can anyone point me the right direction? Thanks, and thanks for making me a poorer man.

The regular black anodized one is fine for most, Ti fanatics like me really love the Ti version. It runs on a little 16340 cell, does an amazing job really for such a small light. I don’t have one but have modified two of my friends, one of each variation. I think he lost his black one, or someone lost it for him no doubt. lol

Try Banggood…. or GearBest is having a lot of flash sales for the next few days, if you can find one there you might get it at a substantial savings.

Edit: Can’t seem to locate it anywhere but Illumination Gear, they have the Ti one in 219C 5700K

Black anodized in same emitter with Illumination Gear is HERE

Bit pricey on the black one, fairly standard on the Ti version.

I know how much you like ramping… but it’s mostly only available on e-switch lights. So I’ve been making a ramping UI for clicky lights. It’s not quite done yet, but all the basics work already and on a FET+1 with tiny25 it’s almost as smooth as Narsil’s default UI. It’ll never be quite as nice without an e-switch, but I think it gets reasonably close considering the simpler hardware.

(also works on tiny13, but it’s not as smooth or as fancy due to space limitations)

You, M’Lady, are AWESOME! :smiley:

This forum is incredible, all the shared efforts from the first simple board designs up through Narsil now it’s been a treat to watch.

http://www.ledfiretorches.co.uk/torch-brands/eagletac?SID=cd04f2bc6edee863250af97c0a9c1674

Oh man as if a ~1100 list isn’t enough pressure you guys post things like this … :wink:

EDIT: list updated, 1096 total wow

WOW indeed…. almost 1100 lights… I fear the production process of the group buy lights alone could take weeks or even months, since ThorFire is not such a big player in the market yet and the production capacities will probably not be so high… and if they rush QC could suffer… so maybe TF should think about producing several batches around 200 to 300 each batch with extensive QC… so if there is a design flaw or production error the next batch could be corrected and not all 1100 lights will be “lost…”

Just a though…
K.

Dropping 6000 lumens from a soup can light definitely gets a reaction from the crowd. However, the wow factor isn’t just lumens… it’s the lumens-to-size ratio. I may perceive a big difference between a 6000-lm soup can and a 600-lumen thumb-sized light, but the crowd reaction isn’t all that different between the two.

Part of this is the lumens-to-size ratio, part of it is the lux it produces when pointing turbo at my hand to demonstrate the thing. Measured at only a foot away, the small light and big light end up with a similar lux value. Also, the perceptual brightness scale only goes up to “ouch”. Anything beyond that looks pretty much the same. So, if you can get “ouch” levels from a tiny light, a bigger and ouchier light won’t get a bigger reaction.

I have a Meteor at ~7000 lm, but I find that the light which gets the best reactions is my Sinner Cypreus at ~3000 lm. It just doesn’t look big enough to be that bright. The Meteor still impresses, but I think the bigger size raises people’s expectations.

Interesting perspective TK.
Makes a lot of sense & sounds about right as well. :slight_smile:

Can’t resist no more, put me in for one pliiz

Never having seen, except in pictures and drawings, what a soda can light is actually like I bought one from e-bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/272055078200 so that I could experience one in the hand.

OK, the Q8 will be a better light all around, but in the hand this feels good. It feels heavy for it’s size; it feels dense. I’m not going to review it since that wasn’t my thrust with the buy. It’s a hand full, but the girth is nice; not too big. It’s amazing how small a space 4 18650 cells can fit into.

Lookin’ forward to the Q8 based on that SRK light.

FWIW, I think the D25C is about the same size as the E11 that is my “goes everywhere with me” light. I found myself using it always on low mode and never on hi. So I took out the Li-Ion cell and put in a Eneloop for longer cell life. I haven’t missed not having a Li-Ion in it at all. Sure it doesn’t do as impressive a Hi mode mode anymore but it’s more practical for the way I use it.

I'm still in awe of 37K lumens though, easily fits in the hand. My new icon is the same light at 0.1 lumens measured, and ramps to 37K . It's the same as this light on FastTech.

It is interesting, lots of SRK clones have been bought by people just to feel a light like that. They can be happy over there :wink:

Dang Tom, that must be awesome 0.1-37000 lumens ramp, like a superfast sunrise

Proto #2 arrived, waiting for me @home . Last night on proto #1, I swapped out the 18 AWG LED wires with 16 AWG. Didn't realize how really big 16 AWG silicone covered wire is - it's huge! I had problems with the clearance of the solder pads on the MCPCB however. I tried assembling it anyway, but it's not a good solution - LED's aren't positioned well, partially clipped now. Covering the contact pads with kapton tape avoided grounding, but I was able to measure 24A at the tail on VTC5A cells, maybe 2.5A higher than I gotten before. So, it does prove a single pair of 18 AWG wires can be improved upon.

I'll need to dremel out clearance for the solder pads. Also tried a UCLp lens, but the lens is thinner than the stock (2.25 mm UCLp, 2.9 mm stock), so once I get the reflector clearance for the wires fixed, might have to do something about the gap at the lens, in order to use a UCLp. Chris @flaslightlens.com though seems to be offering custom size UCLp's in 2 mm or 3 mm thickness, so might be a better option to go with a 3 mm one. Previously UCLp's were all 2.25 mm, now in his new 2 and 3 mm widths, he's got a larger variance spec'd.

Goal is to hit 7,000 lumens

Wow, Tom, perfection is just not enough for you. I lovvvee it!

^ 7000 Woot! Thanks for the update and goal Tom E.

To the fearful, I believe that Thorfire has the capacity and skill to mfg these to spec. Thorfire has some spectacular products (thinking their fantastic bike light and the S70 flashlight) It’s not something to worry over in my view.

Toykeeper, I’m with you on the size to lumen ratio. Wife touched my little single battery Nitecore MH20GT and after shining it on the ceiling said “wow!” and claimed it as hers and told me to get my own (I’d bought 2 so was good to go), whereas the Convoy L6 (the beast) didn’t spark any of her interest other than an eyeroll and a comment not to direct it into peoples eyes. I’d bought 2 of those for the same reason. Gave one to my son for Christmas.