That is great news! I really like my Lumintops, well made and well executed electronics so I have faith they’ll do this one justice…. Fritz has it laid out so sweetly all they have to really do is build it!
I worry about myself sometimes. I see this thread and think it looks pretty. Go to say “put me down for one” but before I do check the want list and see I’m on there twice already.
And thank you for doing these BLF Specials. I really appreciate the hard work you’re doing to get us great lights at reasonable prices. My recently received S42 (yuck) reminded me how important good design and manufacturing are. I need to figure out how to get Narsil on that dumb thing.
I haven’t followed this thread so IDK if there’s already an agreement on the UI. If so can somebody link me to it please. I tried searching for it but I get too many results.
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Idiot proofing something only creates improved idiots.
Thanks for the reply, so it will be the “standard” Narsil designed by TOM? Cause the D4 is also using Narsil but a different version, so it might be possible that there will be a version specifically designed for FW3A….
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Idiot proofing something only creates improved idiots.
Thanks for the reply, so it will be the “standard” Narsil designed by TOM? Cause the D4 is also using Narsil but a different version, so it might be possible that there will be a version specifically designed for FW3A….
Well ehm hmm uh
OK yes this is NarsilM by Tom E but it might get a bit tweaked (timed stepdown sooner then default as in Q8 Narsil for example)
The D4 review thread is going so fast I can’t keep up but I know Ton did the firmware based on what Hank wanted and now Toykeeper is adapting that, but if one flashes Narsil on it it works.
For some reason Hank didn’t want Narsil (why beats me )
Do you have a rough idea when we will get some production news? Care to share some of the steps to getting this made and in our hot little hands ? (pun indended, at least until step-down!)
I really like the looks of this one, but I wish it had a trit slot on the tailcap for a locator since it is going to be almost impossible to add a lighted tailcap. Is this possible?
Well Matt, e-switch+ Narsil supporting locator LEDs + will could bring you a long way (and typing this I don’t know if pins and pads are available so better get a hacksaw ready to be sure )
When?
It took a long time to find a partner on this, we spoke for months with a big player who in the end didn’t dare to make a 2500lumens light this small.
Seeing how fast the GT, that is no money maker , is going and thinking there is more room for manufacturer profits at this $30 price point this could go fast as well.
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The Miller wrote:
OK yes this is NarsilM by Tom E but it might get a bit tweaked (timed stepdown sooner then default as in Q8 Narsil for example)
The D4 review thread is going so fast I can’t keep up but I know Ton did the firmware based on what Hank wanted and now Toykeeper is adapting that, but if one flashes Narsil on it it works.
For some reason Hank didn’t want Narsil (why beats me )
Firelight2 wrote:
Maybe use the version of Narsil Toykeeper is tweeking for the D4 in this light?
It looks like Tom made Narsil, then RampingIOS (to Hank’s spec), then NarsilM. This makes RampingIOS basically a fork of the older Narsil, without the upgrades built into NarsilM. However, now it has gotten some upgrades of its own, so they’re parallel branches. It might make sense to merge updates between them.
The main thing I added was thermal regulation and calibration. The code for that can be spliced into other projects. It’d probably be a good idea to do so, since the FW3A has dramatically less thermal mass than the Q8 so it’ll need more aggressive regulation.
OTOH, to reduce complexity and make it easier to create new UIs without all the overhead work of writing the required plumbing code, I’m anxious to build a whole new code base. I haven’t actually done it yet, but the idea is to make a foundation with all the plumbing taken care of. So maybe that’s a way to resolve the parallel branch thing without making a mess.
Good choice. They’re not wasting any time on the GT.
That is great news! I really like my Lumintops, well made and well executed electronics so I have faith they’ll do this one justice…. Fritz has it laid out so sweetly all they have to really do is build it!
Please put me down for TWO. Thanks!!
Not everyone who helps you is a friend, and not everyone who challenges you is an enemy.
Now that the manufacturer is known to be lumintop I just can’t ignore this
, please put me on the list for one!
Definitely interested could you put me down for 2 please
I worry about myself sometimes. I see this thread and think it looks pretty. Go to say “put me down for one” but before I do check the want list and see I’m on there twice already.
Heh… still want two.
A few reviews:
Baofeng UV-6R | ThorFire TK4A | HaikeLite MT07 Buffalo | Thorfire VG15S | Klarus XT12GT | Imlent DN70 | Amazon stuff
Since it’s lumintop, add 2 more
I’d like to be included also for 1
Idiot proofing something only creates improved idiots.
Please add me to the list for one.
And thank you for doing these BLF Specials. I really appreciate the hard work you’re doing to get us great lights at reasonable prices. My recently received S42 (yuck) reminded me how important good design and manufacturing are. I need to figure out how to get Narsil on that dumb thing.
Please add me to the list for one.
I’m in for one!
I haven’t followed this thread so IDK if there’s already an agreement on the UI. If so can somebody link me to it please. I tried searching for it but I get too many results.
Idiot proofing something only creates improved idiots.
In the original post, close to the top “And we plan on it to run Narsil… “
I’d like to get on the list for this. For 2 of them please.
Yeah thanks Dale, Narsil, so basically one can set it up how one likes.
Wow lots of people want adding on the list, it already was overdue now even more, don’t worry it will happen
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
In for one. Thanks!
Thanks for the reply, so it will be the “standard” Narsil designed by TOM? Cause the D4 is also using Narsil but a different version, so it might be possible that there will be a version specifically designed for FW3A….
Idiot proofing something only creates improved idiots.
Add me for one
I am in for one
Well ehm hmm uh
)
OK yes this is NarsilM by Tom E but it might get a bit tweaked (timed stepdown sooner then default as in Q8 Narsil for example)
The D4 review thread is going so fast I can’t keep up but I know Ton did the firmware based on what Hank wanted and now Toykeeper is adapting that, but if one flashes Narsil on it it works.
For some reason Hank didn’t want Narsil (why beats me
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
Do you have a rough idea when we will get some production news? Care to share some of the steps to getting this made and in our hot little hands ? (pun indended, at least until step-down!)
Maybe use the version of Narsil Toykeeper is tweeking for the D4 in this light?
I really like the looks of this one, but I wish it had a trit slot on the tailcap for a locator since it is going to be almost impossible to add a lighted tailcap. Is this possible?
EDC rotation:
KR4, SST-20 FA3 4000k (favorite!)
FW3A, Nichia 4000k sw40 r9080 (second favorite)
FW1A, LH351D 3500k (third favorite)
FW1A, XP-L Hi 3A
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
FW3A, Cree XP-L Hi 5A3
Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
Emisar D4V2, brass E21A 3500k (night light of choice)
Hmm we aim for normal Narsil
Well Matt, e-switch+ Narsil supporting locator LEDs + will could bring you a long way (and typing this I don’t know if pins and pads are available so better get a hacksaw ready to be sure
)
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
When?
It took a long time to find a partner on this, we spoke for months with a big player who in the end didn’t dare to make a 2500lumens light this small.
Seeing how fast the GT, that is no money maker , is going and thinking there is more room for manufacturer profits at this $30 price point this could go fast as well.
It is done when it is done

How my BLF Specials generally work, please read before asking Qs
The Q8, Exciting a groupbuy for a Premium BLF special high lumens soda can light!
The GT, A BLF special GIGA thrower
The FW3A, a TLF BLF special small, elegant, powerful triple
Lithium Ion safety 101 important read
Sorry grammarlovers, I am a real King Typo.
Great news! At least it is not A$$tr0lüX
Flashlights, blades & beer
Let’s stay relatively optimist!
It looks like Tom made Narsil, then RampingIOS (to Hank’s spec), then NarsilM. This makes RampingIOS basically a fork of the older Narsil, without the upgrades built into NarsilM. However, now it has gotten some upgrades of its own, so they’re parallel branches. It might make sense to merge updates between them.
The main thing I added was thermal regulation and calibration. The code for that can be spliced into other projects. It’d probably be a good idea to do so, since the FW3A has dramatically less thermal mass than the Q8 so it’ll need more aggressive regulation.
OTOH, to reduce complexity and make it easier to create new UIs without all the overhead work of writing the required plumbing code, I’m anxious to build a whole new code base. I haven’t actually done it yet, but the idea is to make a foundation with all the plumbing taken care of. So maybe that’s a way to resolve the parallel branch thing without making a mess.
Please put me down for one!
Please add me to the list for 2.
Thanks!
Please put me down for a second one.
Thanks!
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