New WildTrail (former LuckSun) BLF-D80v2 Sale is open.

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I know that the 3V XHP50.2 would be nice, but it’s way too powerful for such a host.

Something like an XP-L HI/Luxeon V would be great.

And yes, dual nickel-plated BeCu springs would be awesome. Would make the light perform light a superb hotrod.

SST40 in NW 5000k FET+1 BeCu springs

How about more visually appealing to start with…miniature potato masher is so 20th Century… :confounded:

(pic borrowed from DBCustoms)

No, no! The shape is what sets the D80 apart, makes it attractive to some of us. It’s main problem for me is that it gets HOT very fast when hot rodded. I have one with an XHP50, first series, that runs two 18650 in series.

Yes, djozz, I meant XHP50 3 volt. I editted my post, thanks. I think it would be a great hotrod single emitter, in a world where most of them are becoming quads or triples.

Don, does it get hot faster than a quad or triple?

I thought maybe it was the….it is so Fugly it’s Cute syndrome…. my bad. :smiley:

I don’t have any quads at all. I do have an X6 triple with a FET driver running a 30Q cell. The modded D80 does get hotter and gets hotter faster than that X6. The couple of other triples I have are not true hot rods so it is not fair to compare them. (I like my triples mostly for their beam patterns, not the total possible lumen output.)

The shape is best appreciated when you have one in your hand, it just feels very good, much better than a X6.

Regarding a design change.
I was thinking about some performance changes (like a thicker ledshelf). And maybe (when addressing the tube length) also go for a more uniform design. Now you have many different design elements on the tube. And it is not repeating itself. So no design element from the tube is found on the head or the tailcap. . . . Look at the C8+ or the S2+ for example. You will find that they use simmilar elements on head, tube and tailcap.
But i will send LuckySun what the majority wants!

About the 3V XHP50. I think its a perfect LED for hotrodding a light. But not usable with a FET driver in a comercial light (liability. . . ).
But if they use a propper driver with all the other improvements it is a easy and fast mod to a 3V XHP-50 if someone wants to build a hotrod.
To be able to sell the lights to the mass they will most likely go with a XPL-Hi. But i hope they will also offer some high CRI options like the SST-20. . . . on copper DTP boards.

Do you have a link so i can give them something they can look into?
A upgraded reflector would be nice. But is it possible to increase the throw without changing the size? Or do you mean that they should try to get better (more clean, less flaws. . . ) ones?
Propper springs are a must. And i will link the Blue Springs. So they can see how a propper spring looks like. :sunglasses:

Thanks Don. I was wondering whether the heat would be similar to an Emisar or upcoming FW3A, and I assume it would, but it would be a single emitter hotrod this time.

TheOnlyDocc,I get what you’re saying about emitter choice. It will probably end up very similar to what we have already seen, on this and many other lights. I guess that will appeal to more people, although it would be just duplication for many as well.

My experience is that it is impossible to explain to a chinese manufacturer the improved board layout as a description of the problem and then an explanation of the fix. You will have to hand them litterally a correct board lay-out. And I can not draw circuit boards. The description of the problem with the Attiny25 based FET+7135 driver ( drop out of turbo when using low voltage leds) and the required fix is here: What did you mod today? - #2183 by djozz

Feels like the throttle on a motorcycle.
Maybe that’s an idea, slip a motorcycle grip over the tube, no more hot hands :slight_smile: (Yes I know it will eliminate using hands as a radiator causing light to become hotter but for regular use what the heck, work with me here people)

That is a problem, the new D80 will need something that the others do not have, and that is its unique looks and nice finning. If the rest is done well it will become popular (at least with me :slight_smile: )

What about if there was a new D80 version using an e-switch on the side as well as having a tail cap switch? The head would need a little lengthening I guess.

Plus the driver is already 20mm on the D80 gives them a few more options they could easily fit in a 22mm driver. I’ve seen some one making 5+ amp 7135 drivers on Aliexpress. That could be an option with a 3v XHP50.2. How about a high powered linear BLF driver?

I am thinking host only may be the way to go. If they try to make this a perfect light for everyone they will fail.

or make it cheap and simple, but mod friendly:
–18650
-efficient emitter
-simple driver with only 1 or two levels with no step-down ever. no blinky modes.

Personally I like tail clicky lights, but I understand the attraction of e-switches. In this case though, fitting an e-switch on the side will alter that nice shape of the D80, it adds a section just below the finned area that is somewhat wider than the battery tube to house the switch.