For me thrower = cool white, flooder = warm white.
That’s interesting. Usually people do the opposite.
Cool white throwers tend to make a bright blue beam in the air, and the beam obscures the target. This is caused by Rayleigh scattering. So a neutral or warm white thrower is usually more practical. But cool white works fine up close. And, as clemence has said, high-CRI cool white actually has a very full and useful color spectrum.
So just to confirm, if I was on the list for one which I just ordered, but would also like to get a group buy light in high CRI, I don’t need to be added to the new list?
Correct.
There isn’t a second list for the SST-20 emitter type. The list doesn’t track that data at all.
I think what will happen is: As soon as Neal adds the SST-20 preorder option to his store, you should be able to order it with the code from your first message. But that is not confirmed yet. I don’t know how he will handle that.
I got my PM and ordered three since they’re going to have the LEDs swapped anyway and I don’t want to wait any longer. I did get both CCTs so I can test the output and colour for others. Not very hopeful I will receive them any time soon with this volume of orders though.
I’m also curious about how difficult it will be to change out the emitter.
As far as mods go, this one is pretty easy. It uses a standard triple MCPCB. So basically just unscrew the bezel, unsolder two wires, swap the board, connect two wires, and screw the bezel back on.
Thanks to folks for posting when they’ve ordered, as it gives us a sense of how far away we are from notification. Looks like I’ll be getting my PM somewhere between 1am ~ 2am.
Yep, you will get it right about 01:15 CST 28 April 2019 to be exact…._ very early_ Sunday. Provided the script keeps running smoothly, as it appears it has been thusfar.
1336 × 95 = 126,920 ÷ 3600 = 35.26 hours
PM Script began 14:00 CST 26 April 2019
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If it’s as good as everyone is expecting, then having two (one neutral, one warm) would solve the problem.
Comparing different CCT with the same CRI 70 won’t be as eductional for your eyes and brain than comparing same CCT with different CRI (70 vs 90).
People who are searching for vivid colors are looking for high CRI (Ra = 90 with R9 = at least 60 (80 and more is better)).
When your eyes and brain can make the difference even a 3000°K CRI 70 LED make all colors, even red shades, look dull and dreary compared to a 4000°K CRI 95.
If you want vivid colors and don’t have an SST-20 4000°K CRI 95 flashlight yet, you should consider this option long before any XP-L HI CRI 70 flashlight whatever its CCT.
So does this mean that 1544 units were produced … ?
No, it just means there were 1544 unique names on the list when the messages started going out.
Each person only needs one message, so I removed duplicates from the request list in order to produce a shorter private message list.
Thanks, TK. My apologies for the stupid question — later I realized the answer was so obvious, because some people requested more than one. Thanks again for the list consolidation effort.
ToyKeeper wrote:
xevious wrote:
I’m also curious about how difficult it will be to change out the emitter.
As far as mods go, this one is pretty easy. It uses a standard triple MCPCB. So basically just unscrew the bezel, unsolder two wires, swap the board, connect two wires, and screw the bezel back on.
Excellent! Just another sign of how this flashlight design was well thought out.
And then someone PM’s me triggering an email I didn’t have the opportunity to fully read until now and I assumed that was the code and we were both wrong.
+2 hours on start time and + 25 on position. So it’s looking more like 4/27/2019 18:39. [shrug]. The PM with the code shows up when it shows up then the light ships when it ships.
I’m also curious about how difficult it will be to change out the emitter.
As far as mods go, this one is pretty easy. It uses a standard triple MCPCB. So basically just unscrew the bezel, unsolder two wires, swap the board, connect two wires, and screw the bezel back on.
Well this maybe my first mod, I just have to find a suitable MCPCB, any suggestions? How about what NOT to use
As far as 7A candle mode, I’m having the same thoughts as TK and teacher. It would be really cool. But do I need a $36 candle? This is, of course, not the forum for that question. Everyone will say yes.
No, it just means there were 1544 unique names on the list when the messages started going out.
Each person only needs one message, so I removed duplicates from the request list in order to produce a shorter private message list.
PM #962 received 16:22 EST
True, that. I generally stay far away from any tints that warm. However, it looks really nice in candle mode.
Now that I think about it, maybe I should get one just for that purpose.
… or of course I could keep using my Q8 for that, because it has a 3D-printed diffuser cap which makes the tint about 3000K warmer.
That’s interesting. Usually people do the opposite.
Cool white throwers tend to make a bright blue beam in the air, and the beam obscures the target. This is caused by Rayleigh scattering. So a neutral or warm white thrower is usually more practical. But cool white works fine up close. And, as clemence has said, high-CRI cool white actually has a very full and useful color spectrum.
Correct.
There isn’t a second list for the SST-20 emitter type. The list doesn’t track that data at all.
I think what will happen is: As soon as Neal adds the SST-20 preorder option to his store, you should be able to order it with the code from your first message. But that is not confirmed yet. I don’t know how he will handle that.
Thanks so much, lads! Got my order in just now – looking forward to the SST20 too!
For anyone trying to sort when they might get their PM, spot #1287 came in at 3:40PM EST on Saturday 27 APR.
Thanks again!
I got my PM and ordered three since they’re going to have the LEDs swapped anyway and I don’t want to wait any longer. I did get both CCTs so I can test the output and colour for others. Not very hopeful I will receive them any time soon with this volume of orders though.
Please add me to the list for one more (2 total), so I can also get the sst-20 when available. Thanks!
As far as mods go, this one is pretty easy. It uses a standard triple MCPCB. So basically just unscrew the bezel, unsolder two wires, swap the board, connect two wires, and screw the bezel back on.
would like sst 20 when available, thanks
1336 × 95 = 126,920 ÷ 3600 = 35.26 hours
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Comparing different CCT with the same CRI 70 won’t be as eductional for your eyes and brain than comparing same CCT with different CRI (70 vs 90).
People who are searching for vivid colors are looking for high CRI (Ra = 90 with R9 = at least 60 (80 and more is better)).
When your eyes and brain can make the difference even a 3000°K CRI 70 LED make all colors, even red shades, look dull and dreary compared to a 4000°K CRI 95.
If you want vivid colors and don’t have an SST-20 4000°K CRI 95 flashlight yet, you should consider this option long before any XP-L HI CRI 70 flashlight whatever its CCT.
Thanks, TK. My apologies for the stupid question — later I realized the answer was so obvious, because some people requested more than one. Thanks again for the list consolidation effort.
Excellent!
Please add me to the list for 2 more (4 total… I’m #‘s 2073 & 2074 on the request list). Thank you very much!!!
Just got the email so I’m about to place my order, questions:
1) When (rough time frame) will the SST-20 version be available?
2) Will there or is there an interested list for the SST-320 version?
Thanks as always for everything!!!
EDIT: Nevermind….read Toykeeper’s earlier post on this topic….this thread is moving way too fast for me on a Saturday!
I ordered and paid for my 4 lights on the list, did I mess up?
I see they’ll probably only go out 8th May
And then someone PM’s me triggering an email I didn’t have the opportunity to fully read until now and I assumed that was the code and we were both wrong.
+2 hours on start time and + 25 on position. So it’s looking more like 4/27/2019 18:39. [shrug]. The PM with the code shows up when it shows up then the light ships when it ships.
Do I want to designate one FW3A soley to candle duty?? Because that is all I would use a 7A for.
Hmmm… not sure, but maybe I would.. Decisions, decisions…..
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I don’t want to bug Neal with a simple question, I think he is already getting flooded with questions.
So I will ask here, those who ordered and paid on Neals store do they get “Fulfillment Status: unfulfilled” message?
Thanks in advance.
In for one more (2 total, xpl and high-cri once released)
1086 × 95 = 103,170 ÷ 3600 = 28.69 hours
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As am I, Bunny or not!
Paul-
Sorry if I missed this but was the most optimal battery ever discussed?
I didn’t order this one because i didn’t get the PM yet, but i did order there before and when he sends it it the status will appear as “Fulfilled”
Well this maybe my first mod, I just have to find a suitable MCPCB, any suggestions? How about what NOT to use
Paul-
Please add me in for 2 more, for a total of 4. I’m #1804-5 on the list.
Please add me to the list
I’m in for 1 XP-L Hi now, and an SST20 when they’re available!
As far as 7A candle mode, I’m having the same thoughts as TK and teacher. It would be really cool. But do I need a $36 candle? This is, of course, not the forum for that question. Everyone will say yes.
I’m interested in 1 please
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