Overview: All Eneloop batteries 2005-2021

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Is this pack recent? Label says it’s sold in Canada (zoom in on the image). Gotta say the charger (renamed to BQ-CC17KSBA) looks quite good in black. Though I think the package label is a bit misleading, because it says it accompanies AA batteries, despite the image showing AAAs.

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Is this pack recent? Label says it’s sold in Canada (zoom in on the image). Gotta say the charger (renamed to BQ-CC17KSBA) looks quite good in black. Though I think the package label is a bit misleading, because it says it accompanies AA batteries, despite the image showing AAAs.

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Yes it looks like the current cells and charger.

I would shell a few more dollars and get the faster Panasonic charger – BQ CC55 as it charges twice as fast.

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IMHO the image above is showing AA batteries not AAA’s.

Triple A’s wouldn’t span the whole charger like that or fill up each rail. Maybe the black on black is making them look smaller to you ?
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Yes it looks like the current cells and charger.

I would shell a few more dollars and get the faster Panasonic charger – BQ CC55 as it charges twice as fast.

I would if I already hadn’t got a (white) BQ-CC17, but thanks for the suggestion. This was HJK’s conclusion about the BQ-CC55 (https://lygte-info.dk/review/Review%20Charger%20Panasonic%20BQ-CC55%20UK...)

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This is one of the better Panasonic chargers, it is a bit critical with old batteries, probably due to the fairly high charge current. The conclusion must be that it is a fairly good charger.

I wonder if that is relevant only for older non-LSD Ni-MH batteries with raised internal resistence.

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IMHO the image above is showing AA batteries not AAA’s. Triple A’s wouldn’t span the whole charger like that or fill up each rail. Maybe the black on black is making them look smaller to you ?

Nah, they’re indeed AAAs, this is how the charger looks filled with AAs:

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Hammerman wrote:
IMHO the image above is showing AA batteries not AAA’s. Triple A’s wouldn’t span the whole charger like that or fill up each rail. Maybe the black on black is making them look smaller to you ?
You can see the gap below each cell, so they are AAA, IMO.
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What is your youtube channel Chibim? I am curious to see your eneloop new goodies you talked about some posts above…

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Panasonic added another battery charger to their curren lineup…. in Japan. 


It’s quite an interesting one I have to say. (charger + powerbank + flashlight in 1)


Instead of a normal power cord, you can charge batteries using a USB charger! (Cord included, not the USB charger)


Plus they added a flashlight as an attachment so you’ll be able to have light during emergencies! 


Panasonic BQ-CC87 L (light)


Any hint on where to buy it? (Except locally in Japan, obviously XP)

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It’s on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-BQ-CC87ABBA-Advanced-Individual-Technol...

The powerbank function can only output 5V / 1A, though.

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I can not buy at amazon. Only ebay and others that accept paypal.

Sadly XP

And I already saw it on amazon… The price has increased in a few hours. It was 24.99 now 25.99… It seems that as more people buy… More demand… Higher price

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It’s on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-BQ-CC87ABBA-Advanced-Individual-Technol...

The powerbank function can only output 5V / 1A, though.

5v 1A is a success.. Most AA powered power banks only do 0.5A.

Thats a winner for me

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Wow, a AA-powered powerbank. Nice! I didn’t think those existed.

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Wow, a AA-powered powerbank. Nice! I didn’t think those existed.

In fact they do exist since many years ago…

I own 1 sanyo kbc-d and one sanyo kbc-e.

They work with AA but the output is only 0.5A.

This one declare 1A… But without hkj tests… Who knows how well will perform

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Sorry guys for the late reply. 

They are now also available in the US and EU. Will update them on this list: https://eneloop101.com/where-to-buy/

 

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Sorry guys for the late reply. 


They are now also available in the US and EU. Will update them on this list: https://eneloop101.com/where-to-buy/


 

Are you talking about the charger cc87???

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Yes, correct! It's available as a standalone charger, with 4AA and with 4AAA's.

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Yes… Any other place instead of amazon???

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I overlooked Phlogiston's reply. He already linked to the Amazon listing.

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I’m looking at buying the latest Eneloop Pro AA cells at Amazon – which I believe are in the package labeled in the upper right: “Capacity min. 2500 mAH.” However, there are quite a few recent reviews saying that the measured capacity of many of the cells received by those customers is between 1800 and 2000 mAH. Most reviews don’t mention this, and they rate the cells highly, but several do. Are these cases in which people didn’t go through several charge cycles with their new cells, and judged their capacity too early? Or, should I worry about getting defective Pro’s that perform more like the basic Eneloop AA’s?

Maybe I should try the PowerOwl cells – that claim 2800 mAH and seem to have virtually all positive reviews recently? Anyone have any guidance they can give me? It’s been awhile since I’ve bought Eneloops – I have a few Pro AA’s from a few years ago, but I have not measured their capacity. I think it’s time to do that….

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Anyone have any guidance they can give me?

That’s what I came here for. Advice welcome. I need a couple dozen AA NiMH for new lights I want to be able to give away.

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The best deal I found was at Ikea. The LADDA 900’s and 2450’s are known to be eneloop pro’s.
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/ladda-rechargeable-battery-70303876/
Took more than a week to get here. Their slow to ship.
The batteries I just received say “made in japan” on the wrapper.

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I decided to buy Fujitsu 2000 mAH and 2550 mAH cells. They’re made at the same Twicell factory in Japan where Sanyo made Eneloop cells, before Sanyo was bought by Panasonic. So far, they seem to be holding up well.

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I decided to buy Fujitsu 2000 mAH and 2550 mAH cells. They’re made at the same Twicell factory in Japan where Sanyo made Eneloop cells, before Sanyo was bought by Panasonic. So far, they seem to be holding up well.

From what I’ve read, Fujitsu’s seem to be identical to Eneloops. The other brands, not so much, but some are close.

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NorthernHarrier wrote:
I decided to buy Fujitsu 2000 mAH and 2550 mAH cells. They’re made at the same Twicell factory in Japan where Sanyo made Eneloop cells, before Sanyo was bought by Panasonic. So far, they seem to be holding up well.

From what I’ve read, Fujitsu’s seem to be identical to Eneloops. The other brands, not so much, but some are close.

That’s the conclusion I reached, as well.

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ChibiM,
Can you tell me anything good or bad about the eight bay Panasonic charger for envelops? Thanks.

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Hey 264, no, I can't unfortunately. I haven't really looked into them. 

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I will soon run out of alkaline batteries and would like to replace them with nimh or the like. Some of the nimh will be used in a marine environment. The Coast Guard and others entities warn against using lithium rechargeables in this environment. A closed boat in the sun can generate a lot of heat. I’ve never measured it but it can get quite hot inside. Question: Are nimh batteries any more or less susceptible to heat than the usual lithium’s? Are nimh any different about excess heat than alkalines? I’m trying to make things as safe as possible on the boat. Most marine recommendations are to use alkalines, though I wish to get those out of my routine as much as possible. Thank you.

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I will soon run out of alkaline batteries and would like to replace them with nimh or the like. Some of the nimh will be used in a marine environment. The Coast Guard and others entities warn against using lithium rechargeables in this environment. A closed boat in the sun can generate a lot of heat. I’ve never measured it but it can get quite hot inside. Question: Are nimh batteries any more or less susceptible to heat than the usual lithium’s? Are nimh any different about excess heat than alkalines? I’m trying to make things as safe as possible on the boat. Most marine recommendations are to use alkalines, though I wish to get those out of my routine as much as possible. Thank you.

Oops.. didn't notice this question, but I think I answered it, maybe on Facebook?

 

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Been out of touch of NiMH chargers for a while but looking to get a portable one. Anyone know if the BQ-CC87 is indeed a smart charger? The product page shows an image of the box stating quick charger.

The little light attachment looks cool. Anyone know where to buy one? I couldn’t find any info on it.

Edit: In the description it says “Charging times shown in the table are only indicative and can vary depending on temperature and battery status” so I guess it is smart?

I also found a photo of the back showing output as 0.5A x 4 (AA) and 0.25A x 4 (AAA). Anyone know if those currents apply regardless of the number of cells? e.g. if populated with only one AAA will it be charged at 0.25A?

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Been out of touch of NiMH chargers for a while but looking to get a portable one. Anyone know if the BQ-CC87 is indeed a smart charger? The "product page":https://www.panasonic-eneloop.eu/en/chargers/bq-cc87-charger shows an image of the box stating quick charger.

Good question, as far as I know this is a smart charger

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Thanks ChibiM. Done a bit more research and does look it is smart in that current is varied “depending on temperature and battery status”. I’ve edited my post above.

I don’t really need another charger but the powerbank feature is interesting and looking to put all the Tones I’ve accumulated to good use.

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