Andúril 2 coming to Sofirn - The general Sofirn development thread

I’d like to put in a bid for making C01 lights with a variety of colored emitters —- blue, aqua, green, yellow, amber, and orange— like the lights Arc AAAs used to offer.
for extra collectible goodness, anodize the light tubes in matching colors, as was done with the C01R far red model.

AAA lights need sub lumen mode that it’s usefull for close ispection. I hope Sofirn will made C01S tail clicky version with 4 level bright

This would be great, but since they already stated they are only doing a single run with all the same emitter, I’m sure it won’t happen.

However, if they do offer a host version like djozz has asked of them, I’m tempted to do this. Pulling a few hundred out of the production run before the LED’s are installed should be more straightforward than running multiple batches with different LED’s. LED Supply has a good selection of colored 5mm emitters.

Also, check out the Convoy rainbow somebody shared on the flashlight reddit today. It’s glorious:

I also know there are a couple folks around here who have done sets of S2+ illuminated tailswitches that match the body colors.

Sofirn are really getting left behind now that Convoy is stocking the Osram leds. Sofirn haven’t released a new design for ages now.

….but Sofirn aren’t just going to make something just for that small percentage, they attract most sales from the general public who only care about high lumens.

You need to get into modding or installing your own the way you like it

Sorfirn entered where Convoy already was. Both do super work, but Convoy (Simon) seems to be more the “custom” guy. That said… Sofirn did bring out the C8F, Q8, SP-36, LT1, SP25a, and the latest rave now… the SC31 Pro.

Sofirn also brought us more tint and led type selections this last year— all selling at an “affordable” price. Then… they have migrated a lot of designs to give us Anduril lights in MUCH of their line. While Convoy moves along in newer customized designs lately, Sofirn is selling a heck of a lot of “production” lights that are really great (solid) builds that aren’t always “leading edge”, but they are very reliable. Oh… and the LT1 really was a super new thing actually (I own FOUR) :person_facepalming:

I love Convoy equally, but in my case it just turns out that more than a few of my first Anduril lights happened to come from Sofirn.

And Funtastic… as a dealer you are always watching the market- I get it. But I’ve read you say more than once that people want, “… an EASY to use light without problems.” I’d guess BOTH Sofirn and Convoy are standard shelf “stockers” for you on the retail side to this point. I’d also guess customers are getting smarter with time as the Millennials start coming up to be prime consumers (where you can hand them anything electronic and they get of figured out in 10 seconds- NOT my generation) :stuck_out_tongue:

Interesting. Barry was talking about having SP33/Q8 “Pro” (XHP50.2 and built-ing USB-C charging) versions in the pipeline. It would be cool if Anduril 2 landed on them, but the timing will be tight.

Any news on the Q8 Pro?

I am interested in the Q8 with 4xXHP50.2 (3V).

That’ll get hot fast. I wonder what the highest sustainable output will be

~2000-2500Lm

Hopefully the same as the original Q8 which was 1500-2000lm.

The original Q8 can hold ~1500Lm for no more than 20 minutes, after which the temperature will already be over 50°C

The highest sustainable output is mostly determined by the host itself, not the LEDs used. There is some variation with different LED types, but the differences are small. So the sustainable level would probably be very close to the current versions.

Here’s what I measured in a turbo runtime test:

The direct-drive-style power circuit makes output sag over time so, to maintain temperature, the driver keeps bumping the output up. As the battery voltage gets closer to the LED forward voltage, it becomes more efficient and can sustain higher brightness levels at the same temperature. It’s not the prettiest runtime graph, but it’s normal for this type of light.

The HK04 is a host with quad XHP50.2 3V's, only 3 cells instead of 4, overall slightly smaller than a Q8 but similar form factor.

My HK04 w/spring bypasses does 14,500 at start, 12,000 and 30 secs (maukka calibrated), and with raising the the temp threshold to 85C or so, it's hot to hold at 30 secs.

Knowing Sofirn they’ll probably cheap out somewhere limiting max potential

No idea. Really there's no such thing as constant lumens with a driver like this. The HK04 uses a FET + 1, but the "+ 1" is actually not a 7135 but what I suspect is another FET with resistors in the circuit. This is similar in design to TA's high amp drivers.

Unfortunately I have no loomen toob to test with, but my M6 (4x18650, 3xXHP50.2) holds full ramp (16x AMC7135) until the voltage drops too low if I set the thermal limit to 65C. The entire head gradually heats until it’s somewhat painful to hold, though. But that takes a while - for 20 minutes of “bright” it’s just a decent handwarmer.

Used ‘ceilingbounce’ app (with HK04 4x XHP50.2 pointing at the ceiling)

HK04 is set to “ramp ceiling” at the start of the test, estimate the ramp ceiling output to be around 3000+ lumens.

(I had a small USB-plug in fan pointed at the HK04 head the entire time though)
(I set the HK04 temperature threshold to 65 degrees Celsius, ambient temperature at my place would be somewhere around 30 degrees Celsius)

At 10 minutes mark, brightness still good, dropped to around 90% of starting brightness.

About 16 minutes later (I stopped the test), the brightness has dropped to around 80% of the starting point. (so probably around 2500 lumens)

The flat lines are interesting to see from a driver like this. The ramp ceiling is PWM'ing the FET's so output should slowly drop, even with the additional cooling of the fan. What you are showing is steps down - could this be from the resolution of the measuring device? It appears to be taking course measurements.