Enogear AA Stainless Steel (AA/14500)

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I ended up putting a FET driver in mine and SST-20 3500K but I am second guessing this decision since SS and tiny pill is not ideal for this. I turned the 219B in it originally blue instantly.

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In case it helps anyone here is the driver they are using as of this latest batch:

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I tightened the retaining ring on the driver, unfortunately it made no difference.
I tightened the retaining ring on the switch assembly, which did make a difference, it seems to be working fine now!

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Yokiamy wrote:
I tightened the retaining ring on the driver, unfortunately it made no difference. I tightened the retaining ring on the switch assembly, which did make a difference, it seems to be working fine now!

I noticed that when completely disassembling mine to see how it worked. To fully tighten the tail retainer it ends up being just below the 2 cutouts for the lanyard and it’s not simple to fully tighten cause I think there is an O ring there for good measure.

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I just modded mine: https://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1722391#comment-1722391

Put a 15mm FET driver with Bistro HD OTSM, a 10mm DTP MCPCB with a Luxeon V2 3000K and a pebbled TIR !

Me likes Wink About the heat…I’ll need to have the unprotected Shockli cells to make it go hoooooot Evil

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MascaratumB wrote:
I just modded mine: https://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1722391#comment-1722391

Put a 15mm FET driver with Bistro HD OTSM, a 10mm DTP MCPCB with a Luxeon V2 3000K and a pebbled TIR !

Me likes Wink About the heat…I’ll need to have the unprotected Shockli cells to make it go hoooooot Evil

Do you have a link to the optic? I modded mine to use a CWF driver, but I’m not overly fond of the stock optic’s beam profile

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I assume you mean Dragon Mini driver? Any details you can share like if the 7135’s fit as is? Sanding? Is there a 7135 on top side?

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dk21291 wrote:
MascaratumB wrote:
I just modded mine: https://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1722391#comment-1722391

Put a 15mm FET driver with Bistro HD OTSM, a 10mm DTP MCPCB with a Luxeon V2 3000K and a pebbled TIR !

Me likes Wink About the heat…I’ll need to have the unprotected Shockli cells to make it go hoooooot Evil

Do you have a link to the optic? I modded mine to use a CWF driver, but I’m not overly fond of the stock optic’s beam profile


Yes I do! Here it is Wink https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2048689105.html

Make sure you pick the right one as they have different options! This is a quite nice floody beam Wink

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Is this driver available separately? I have an SS incoming (2700K SST-20 since I like it) but think the low PWM frequency could bother me.

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I ordered a new driver from Rey (he just released new drivers for his lights) for my non functional Enogear. Hopefully it will workout well

https://www.reylight.net/product/reylight-brass-pineapple/

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Yokiamy wrote:
I ordered a new driver from Rey (he just released new drivers for his lights) for my non functional Enogear. Hopefully it will workout well

https://www.reylight.net/product/reylight-brass-pineapple/


Hum, nice Wink I will be looking for your feedback on it! Do you intend to use it with Ni-MH or Li-Ion?
I am asking because an older version whined too much with Li-Ion , besides the PWM it had Sick

This new driver seems to be different and that shortcut to turbo and other configuration options are quite nice Wink

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I switched both of mine to the DTP 12mm PCB’s from MTN:

It does fit with a bit of extra tightening (you really should apply a drop of glue when you get everything how you want so the head doesn’t come off “first” with the pill section being double threaded).

With FET + this DTP pcb + Vapcell H10 flat top it gets scorching hot in seconds. That cell is just absurd. I will keep the vapcell gold in there like I had before but at least now I feel better about the PCB.

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contactcr wrote:
I switched both of mine to the DTP 12mm PCB’s from MTN:

It does fit with a bit of extra tightening (you really should apply a drop of glue when you get everything how you want so the head doesn’t come off “first” with the pill section being double threaded).

With FET + this DTP pcb + Vapcell H10 flat top it gets scorching hot in seconds. That cell is just absurd. I will keep the vapcell gold in there like I had before but at least now I feel better about the PCB.

Cool Wink
That PCB is larger than the one I have and also larger than the original, but maybe it will dissipate heat a little better due to more contact with the pill Wink

I also feel what you mentioned about the glue, but I didn’t do that, because in case I need to take it out again, I would struggle more Oops

Ahah, my Vapcell H10 is topped so it becomes bigger than I wanted, but I have some orange Shockli on the way, flat top, that will make the job Evil
BTW, did you manage to use the retainingring with your driver? Was it thin enough to be put back in place?

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Yes the ring is in place. It’s probably a half turn or so less threading but it’s there. I put one of those brass buttons on the bottom so only unprotected flat top 14500 fit now.

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Yes the ring is in place. It’s probably a half turn or so less threading but it’s there. I put one of those brass buttons on the bottom so only unprotected flat top 14500 fit now.

Nice! My driver was way too thick to put the ring back in place. Glad you made it with yours Wink
Will you bet on the Vapcell Gold then, not the H10?
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Yes, for this light and FET only driver. SS is just terrible for heat path. Gold takes 3-4x as long to get to same temp feeling. If you end up sagging that tail spring from leaving it on you are in for a world of regret Smile Not sure if that would happen or not but seems possible?

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BTW, does anyone know more about the FF copper AA light?
https://www.ff-light.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product...

According to the specs it’s even smaller than the SS light!

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CRX modded it a while ago:
https://budgetlightforum.com/node/61227

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Thanks! As I was afraid, the thermal path is terrible and there’s not much that can be done about it.
Not for me then. But I notice that there’s also a brass one with micro USB charging. 2 mm longer than steel, 1 mm smaller diameter. Worse looking.
Any more info about it?
https://www.ff-light.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=74


ADDED: I see it’s out of stock…

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Thanks again!

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Thanks again!

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Agro wrote:
BTW, does anyone know more about the FF copper AA light?

According to the specs it’s even smaller than the SS light!

The copper cube? if so, the one I got? Junk. Emitter was way off center. Bezel just fell out after handling it for a few minutes. Driver was trimmed down to fit, which is fine but, nobody paid attention to where the emitter was. So it’s way off center and you really can’t fix it. Oh BTW, the emitter is on the actual driver. Copper threads for the bezel and the pill are stripped in some areas and not complete in other areas. If you can get the pill out it ends up ruining the threads. Single hole in the pill looks like it was drilled out by a pissed off 5 year old.

I am debating on whether I will rebuild it myself with a actual driver and MCPCB. Or send it to a friend of mine who has more patience than I do. It wouldn’t be outrageously difficult. There is enough room for adjustment in the tail and head that I could build up an actual pill for the separate parts. Might have to go to a flat top cell only but I will cross that road when I get there.

I never contacted FF about the light. I am not complaining about their customer service or anything like that. Jackie has always treated me well in the past and present. I am sure he would have made good on this light but, honestly, I don’t want another one. They are haphazardly put together with parts that don’t seem like they belong together. I doubt I would have received a better example. So, I will decide what I want to do with it. I have a few CC AA/14500 drivers I may try. I would still have to fix the body of the light as well. Machining marks need to be taken care of.

As you can see. My sample looks nothing like the advertised light. It looks………..uh………pre broken.

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contactcr wrote:
I assume you mean Dragon Mini driver? Any details you can share like if the 7135’s fit as is? Sanding? Is there a 7135 on top side?

https://www.cwfcustomflashlights.com/collections/parts/products/chimera-...

Here’s the product page that lists the specs, modes, etc. Also has a picture of both sides. No sanding or anything was necessary. However, it’s a bit of a small driver for the host, so the retaining ring only held the driver from coming out, it did not keep the driver in place, there was plenty of room for it to move side to side. To solve this I just put some solder down to connect the retaining ring to the negative pad on the driver.

Just a note, the stock Nichia LED went blue and fried very quickly with this driver. I put an SST20 I had handy in there and haven’t had issues, though I could have fit a larger/better MCPCB in there if I had wanted to do it better.

The modes are great and with the stock optic I was very surprised with the amount of throw it had. The output is pretty great on high. But I don’t need so much throw, so the low mode is far too focused in my opinion, hence my desire for a wider optic.

Edit: seeing Yokiamy’s post about using a Reylight driver is interesting however. While I like everything the CWF driver offers, I wouldn’t mind having Rey’s multi-chemistry support as the CWF is 10440/14500 only.

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  • An Olight 14500 fits the light, but the switch needs to be screwed out a couple of twists. Bye bye tailstand, hello easy operation.
  • The SST-20 appears a little more greenish compared to a light with this LED (kaidomain). Can by different bin, can be an effect of the glass cover. Doesn’t matter, as it is only visible in direct comparison. It’s still rosy in the light of a 2700K LH351D and compareable to an incandescant lamp.
  • I like the throwy characteristics of the TIR optics.
  • The PWM is not visible to me in the beam, but of course clearly visible when the light is moved and the eye follows the head. I can leave it as it is [until an appropriate driver falls into my hand].

All in all: I’m happy with the light. It will be with me on a couple of days this winter.

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Just got mine.
I really like the UI. No bells and whistles, no mode memory, starts low. I don’t need anything more.
The light seems well made, though I haven’t looked very closely yet.
It’s my first steel light and I it ain’t light. But I knew it wouldn’t be and I accept it as it is.
I like the warm beam of 2700K SST-20. Though it could use some more lumens. Once I have more time I need to read up to see if the driver survives 14500.

Overall I don’t remember when was the last time that a light made so positive first impression on me.

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Some second impressions. Wink
Some edges are not chamfered. They feel sharp. Normally that’s not the case but when I tried to unscrew the pill from the head I wondered whether I would cut my skin. I didn’t but I didn’t succeed at unscrewing it either.
Overall it gives the light a very rough feel. I don’t think I like it really, but it’s OK.

The beam is quite throwy for EDC. I would say that it’s too throwy actually.

The TIR is far from perfect. When I look into the head from different angles I can see numerous imperfections. But they are not visible in the beam so I’m OK with that.

The light is really toughly built. Seems that the walls are really thick everywhere. This surprises me considering the light is still small for AA clicky.

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Agro wrote:
Some second impressions. Wink
Some edges are not chamfered. They feel sharp. Normally that’s not the case but when I tried to unscrew the pill from the head I wondered whether I would cut my skin. I didn’t but I didn’t succeed at unscrewing it either.
Overall it gives the light a very rough feel. I don’t think I like it really, but it’s OK.

The beam is quite throwy for EDC. I would say that it’s too throwy actually.

The TIR is far from perfect. When I look into the head from different angles I can see numerous imperfections. But they are not visible in the beam so I’m OK with that.

The light is really toughly built. Seems that the walls are really thick everywhere. This surprises me considering the light is still small for AA clicky.

Interesting to hear about the throw. I selected a 219 version and find it virtually indistinguishable from my SST-20 4000k lights, tint wise… but the beam is a nicely balanced broad pattern with both spot and flood.

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That looks like an excellent light for the price!

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Received mine with the Nichia, surprising overall finish for the price, may buy a couple more.

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Got mine with the SST20 4000K, very nice tint and definitely high CRI. I do have some issue with the clicky-button as it is not very precise and can be pressed to come under the retaining ring but I’ll probably get used to it. The PWM is fast enough for my brain so not a problem for me.

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