Starting 2021 we ALL got Covid-19 (me, my wife, my kids, my parents and grandmother, wifes parents, grandfather, brother and sister).
Wife and her side of the family got thru it with no real problems, few days of light fewer and loss of taste/smell. My side of family got way worse (same source) with 10 day fewer, headeche and lung problems. My mother and grandmother ended up in hospital for a few weeks. Grandmother passed away, not from Covid-19 but from an bacteria she got in the hospital.
Since I have a few connections in our hospital (that’s just how things work here in the magnificent Balkans) we were treated well and warned by staff not to get vaccinated because it doesn’t really help and side effects are not a joke. Hospital was full of sick people who were at that time vaccinated two times and many of then ended up on respirators. Pfizer and Astrezeneca were used. As for the side affects, all of my friends who got vaccinated have random problems since then ranging from headeche to joint pain and few days ago my friends dad died of stroke two hours after getting his second shot.
I am NOT an anti-vaxer, and I don’t bother myself with conspiracy theories. This are just our personal experiences. I am NOT saying you should not get vaccinated.
After al the Covid-19 problems I ended up getting a Hemorrhagic Fever with Renal Syndrome as a bonus so this year is a win. Not.
But the mentioned Pfizer and Astrazenica are among the proven good ones, there is well documented experiences from millions of people, the experiences that Mraz mentions are way from average.
I know that Sputnic V is used a lot in the Balkans, and chinese vaccins. Of those vaccins, the trials and reports are dubious and influenced by politics and so their effectivity numbers (and safety, but I doubt that any goverment would release clearly unsafe vaccins to the public) are uncertain or even not published. Their effectivity will eventually be found by the actual large-scale vaccination programs with them, making the world one big trial. It does not mean that they are bad or unsafe though, just that they fail to do proper trials and tell us that.
My swords and my flashlights are ready to fight even the strongest variants, including Epsilon and the future ones…
I’ll wear 5 or 6 masks from now on, thanks to the advice of our beloved world class expert Fauci and the other heroes.
and I already had the 4 vaccines from these very reliable companies with great reputation: Pfizer, Astra Zeneca, Modern-RNA, and J&J with high quality asbestos in it…
I’m not afraid anymore from covid or any corona virus. I’m totally immunized now.
So the numbers say the jabs cuts the variant by 1/8 , But if you catch it anyway you have 1/140 to die vs 1/1200 unvaccinated . No death prevented here . And do you consider futur problems while the unvaccinated infected benefit from a MUCH better defense as it was valid science before this burocratic takeover .
Please Sid, take the numbers in context . A hundred deaths from a cold is like nothing for the UK . The damage from the fear that you seams to propagate is what kills peoples .
Hey, go ahead. Knockdown the science and take your risk.
If you feel it’s overblown, perhaps you already have a bias before examining the numbers and the nations that do impose distancing and other preventative measures. At first glance, the study seems to suggest the vaccines are not preventing more deaths. But not being a statistician or expert in the field, I don’t read or follow the news media as to be either alarmed or just instigated falsehoods. The sources I rather have are from Dr. John Campbell - epidemiologist.
Are you serious ? Peoples pretending to be defending science are silencing any dissenting views . You see, real science is where you make a theory and then you try to brake it . The propaganda is so tick that even with data from the culprits, you don’t inquire . You talk about my bias ? You pretend that you do not follow the subject but you deliberately make a post calling for fear on a non related site, and calling me that it’s not a good tribune ?
That is rich. :person_facepalming:
“The (so called) Science” of COVID we all hear the “experts” touting is an absolute joke at this point.
“The (so called) Science” is so convoluted through politicization, lies, deception, smoke n’ mirrors, adherence to an agenda, & in many cases just outright stupidity… in most cases it no longer resembles anything valid or even slightly worthwhile.
Dr. F has been wrong more than right. Changing his positions sometimes on a daily basis… as well as outright lying to the public about the CV on numerous ocassions.
Personally, I would not trust him to treat my dog… if I even had one.
REAL Science does NOT mind being questioned or entertaining other theories & possibilities.
JUNK SCIENCE cries foul when questioned.
You want to hear some real unpoliticized Sciece, do some research about what Dr. Robert Malone has to say. There are many others too, but Dr. Malone is a good place to start, since he actually among other things invented the mRNA vaccine process.
Research what he says about all this if you dare….
Serious, i don’t follow you . It is like data shows you it has little effect but a lot of side effects and posssible futur effects . Do you hate your fellow human that much ?
