New XM-L Light,, 26650/18650/4xAAA Good Price and 57mm head ......... NOTE: The star is solid aluminium !!! :bigsmile:

The Solarforce switch has a diameter of exactly 20mm, and measures about 24mm from the button to the tip of the spring. It’s the ideal size really because it’s only a touch shorter than the complete original setup. Using a switch that’s much shorter than that might result in decreased output due to exerting less pressure on the battery, although this could be overcome by soldering a bigger/longer spring to the driver (or even the switch itself for that matter). The retaining (screw-down) ring piece is important as you can’t use re-use the original because it would create a short between the spring and the body (making for an always-on flashlight). You could try to insulate it somehow, but it also has to make contact with the switches outer ring so it would present a challenge.

I’m not saying that you can’t make some other sort of switch work for you. I’m certain that it’s possible. It’s just that you’d likely end up doing something different from what I’ve done. I was simply lucky in the sense that I already happened to have parts laying around that were suitable.

Just look for 16mm/8mm (or 16mm/7.5mm) rubber/silicone tail cap boots with an inner button (not the recessed kind that IO sells). These ones are probably suitable, although they are currently sold out.

The other thing you could do is pull the original switch out, look at it, look at the tail piece, put it back together, think about it, pull it apart again, run through some hypothetical scenarios, scratch your head, become slightly irritated, put it down for a while, forget about it, pick it up again, and then hopefully come up with an entirely new solution using a unique collection of new and existing (possibly modded) parts. Then you could come back here and post about it!

Great stuff chiefinspectorfinch :slight_smile:

Thanks cainn for that info. Sounds like I'll just get a couple of those Solarforce switches and hunt around for some tailcaps.

-Garry

Found more 16mm/8mm tailcaps at KD so I placed an order. Ordered 2 of the Solarforce switches too (and it was really hard to resist throwing in a Solarforce body too). I know it's a Chinese Holiday so I expect delivery to be delayed.

-Garry

Got 26650’s in from led-dna today and they were at 3.67v and at the tail cap they read 2.25a which is about as high as i even seen it. Have to charge them tomorrow and see if they sill put this thing up to 3a+. If this thing don’t get brighter then i might have to call this a waste of time without a better driver and positive spring along with other things maybe.

Put it like this built a xpg2 drop in for my l2m with a KD V2 2.28a version and it is brighter the the eBay 57mm head light. Kinda not happy with the ultraOk. Very happy withe xp-g2 though like the he k out of that build. Might have to try a different emitter or style to see if it is better or give it away to a non flashaholic.
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I’ve seen 3.56A at the tail from a freshly charged Panasonic 18650. Immediately afterwards I put the same battery in my HD2010 and it was delivering 5+ amps so despite my best efforts there’s still a significant degree of resistance somewhere. But it’s not a big deal because I don’t really want any of my XM-L lights to be pulling much over 3.5A anyway, so I think I’m done modding this one.

In the end this has been totally worth it for me. I was convinced that I was going to end up giving this light away but I’ve changed my mind. It’s finally hanging with the big boys. It’s certainly not winning, but it’s definitely up there. After putting all this time and effort into it, making it better and making it my own, I’ve grown attached to it, and am subsequently deriving increased enjoyment from using it.

That cell at 3.67v is pretty well fully discharged. You should see a huge gain in amps from it when it's fully charged! Be sure to report back. What brand of cells are they? (I haven't tried any 26650's in mine since I haven't gotten the LED properly heatsinked.) I would like to hear from ceHowardGS about his cuz I know he's using 26650's and hasn't done anything to the LED star/pill connection.

-Garry

I finally got the 26650’s charged took probably like 12+ hours. After that check the current again and now I am over 3a’s and you can really tell the difference. The light is definately brighter! Ya finally! But the battery us to short for the light doeant want to stay on. I put a penny on the negative side and it stays on but im sure that is not a good way of doing it!

Ps now its brighter then my xpg2 driven at 2.3a :bigsmile:

I think the cels are the king kongs they look like the ones HKJ reviewed. I got them at leddna for sweet price

I probably should have mentioned (especially to garrybunk) that I’m using protected button-top 18650’s, which are 68.8mm long. In other words, my particular method of getting a Solarforce switch in the tail might not work too well for anyone using significantly shorter batteries, unless they also put a longer and/or tougher spring on the driver and/or switch itself.

Could it do 3xAA ?

The inner tube diameter is about 26.5mm, so there’s no chance.

EDIT: Would be great if it did though. I’d love to see something like a Cyclone C88 with a 55+mm head. In fact it’s tragic that a HD2010 head doesn’t screw onto a C88 body. It’s not far off really.

Concept light:

Oh that looks Swwwwwweeeeeet!!! I want one!

Oh, and thanks for in the info on the Solarforce switch. I think that spring on the driver needs beefed up anyway. I'm about 2 weeks away from having the switch & tailcap parts.

-Garry

Recv'd my Solarforce switches today - 8 days from order and ordered during the Chinese holiday! My first experience with Solarforce. Also received my aluminum heatsink pill "insert" from a generous BLF member the other day. Now if I can only get some free time to work on this light!

cainn, I should be ok. I also use protected 18650's and a raised-top King Kong 26650 (which is a bit longer due to that "raised-top").

Just brought over this photo I've posted previously. That plastic disk is 0.50mm so this raised-top cell is 68.05 - not that much longer.

-Garry

i like those heatsinks, saw a pic of them the other day. Hurry up and get that sucker installed and let it sing!

Went outside with the light last night and thinking on the brightness issue. Maybe it is the tint of the led that is making it fill like it is underperforming in my eyes. Been thinking that maybe I should put that xml 1a in there and see if there is more perceived brightness.

Not trying to get it to perform like my HD2010 but atleast maybe put a little smile on my face. :~

Yeah, for all we know these stock emitters could be a really low bin. I wonder how often that happens.

-Garry

Turned mine on last night and left it standing on the head for 15-20 minutes. After 5 you couldnt tell much difference, and at the end of the time it was finally warming up the pill section, the head and body was getting a little warm also. Either this is a heat dissipating monster or

Ya that is true, also the tint looks more like my 2B xpg2 than something like the MF 3 mode dropin.

I just ordered a second one of these - $18.99 with free shipping (same seller as O.P. - TopofKing). Then while perusing more Ebay listings I found it for as low as $16.93 with free s&h, but I don't know about this seller.

anybody got a bad one like me? Bad glass or reflector causing rings… spring being held by solder which i accidently popped and had to re-solder cuz I wanted to stretch them out for my flat top 26650s. Also the end switch goes out pretty fast? Anyways the low bin XM-L emitter is the most annoying part. with yellow tint and the corona of the light? I will post pictures when I can borrow a digital camera.