hmm not XP-L and not Cree. Looks like the same âmystery emitterâ that we delt with a couple months ago hiding under a centering ring. Somebody figured out what it was, but I donât remember anymore.
I wonder if Djozz got real XP-Lâs or maybe just didnât inspect the emitters?
Hhmm. I just got a cheap, crap triple XM-L2 dive light in from TMART - same looking LED's, footprint of an XP, not XM, and same look as those with the white base.
the "dive for you sucka" is my own creation . Things are goin from bad to worse out there. The 5000 lumens I can live with, but the bait 'n switch of pictures and parts specs is ridiculous. Of course the stores we buy the stuff from never see the product they sell, so they are getting baited same as we are.
The light I got had a 1.3A at the tail on 2S cells, so maybe ~2.3A to the LED's I'm thinking, and got about 500 lumens measured out. The dive light though has a very thick lens, so extra loss's there.
Now it makes a whole lot more sense. No way can they sell those lights at those prices without bait 'n switching us on the LED's.
I got a dive light just like the one pictured there. I canât remember which store I bought it from, perhaps Tmart. But it did have XM-L emitters. Too bad the driver quit working after less than a month. |( I still have the light, but Iâm unsure what to do with it, since it uses a hall effect sensor for switching on/off the driver.
I bought the dive light at like $18.nn, on special deal. Was talk'n this morn bout building my own hall effect driver, but with multi-modes based on a port that would give me a signal level on the magnet strength. Might be a different part, but they do make them.
It had XM-L emitters, but was generally unimpressive.
I had two of these; I took the first into a swimming pool (above ground, only about 40" deep) and just let it sit on the bottom for a while. Took it out and it was full of water, in the head, reflector, battery tube all. Now corrosion on the driver, and messed up reflective coating on the reflector.
I think I'll keep the second as a "Water Resistant" option, but it's not great for that due to the low drive current, poor heatsinking, and funky operation of the hall effect switch.
They put original XP-L V5 in the first 1000pcs then they will start using XP-L V2 and other lower bins, that is how generally this stuff works, but in this case I see they started with mislabeling the LEDs directly.
No prob at all djozz - no telling what you will get from order to order, or even if 2 lights in one order will be the same -- this is the budget world of anything goes...
Oopsie, keltex78 - I see now - yes, same dive light, but mine said XM-L2 but got fake XP size Chinese LED's instead. Interesting...
This seems to be a snowballing effect taking over â Budgetâ lights from the sellers we buy fromâŚ
I just received a single so-called âXP-Lâ light with the crappy knock-off LED in place of it.
The Chinese seem to be replacing the better real Cree XP-L emitters on a large scale with cheap, crap, knock-offs called âKreeâ with no quality control or capabilities, and listign them with false claims and photo switch-outs.
We all need to file claims, refunds, etc/. to put pressure on the sellers to stop this travesty before it gets worse, and gets to the point where ALL the lights we buy come with useless trash emitters.
Iâm glad i backed out of buying this light now knowing it has fake XP-Ls.
I had an online session with a support person on TMART yesterday, with uploaded pictures, the works... They said give them 2 days to email me - dunno what this will mean. Hope GB and BG would be more responsive since they deal with us regularly. FT's support has gone down hill - not sure if they post here anymore, and DX not sure. I've been giving GearBest lots of feedback lately. They don't publish my reviews at all - not favorable, but not nasty either - unfavorable reviews just don't seem to get published by them. GB though was good on re-shipping a light that didn't arrive, but they also sell a lot of poor quality stuff.
I'm also tired of advertised alum reflectors and getting plastic instead, or advertised SS bezels and getting aluminum. Everything, of course, is cheaper or poorer grade than what is listed.
For now, I trust BangGood a whole lot more than GearBest. Actually BangGood might be the best big discount vendor out there now. Dropping UltraFire branded clones was a huge move by them - they earned a star for that in my book.