[2016-06-11] Crackdown on rudeness

[J-Dub74]

@bugsy

It’s nice that we can see which posts were marked rude. I’d like to know who marked which posts rude.

Absolutely. If you wouldn’t mind please mark one of my posts rude. I’d like to see this system in action. I assume you realize I marked yours just having as a bit of fun to test the system.

Edit: I meant that I like that people can see which of their posts was marked rude, not that who marked it should be shown. Who flagged what absolutely needs to be anonymous to all but SB.

[sb56637]

@bugsy

It’s nice that we can see which posts were marked rude. I’d like to know who marked which posts rude.

Definitely not. Sorry, but that would undoubtedly start feuds.

[sb56637]

@J-Dub74

@bugsy

It’s nice that we can see which posts were marked rude. I’d like to know who marked which posts rude.

Absolutely. If you wouldn’t mind please mark one of my posts rude. I’d like to see this system in action. I assume you realize I marked yours just having as a bit of fun to test the system.

Hi J-Dub74, here’s the link to see your posts that were flagged, if any:
http://budgetlightforum.com/my-problem-posts
Sorry I haven’t figured out a way yet to make this menu link only appear for logged-in users, so it’s not on the left-hand column yet.

[Joshk]

@J-Dub74

Sb, I think this is a great way to help moderate without active moderating.

I know! There was a problem, but he didn’t make more rules and get more people to enforce them…
Instead he created an incentive for the current rules to be self-enforced.
SB for president

[atbglenn]

@sb56637

@bugsy

It’s nice that we can see which posts were marked rude. I’d like to know who marked which posts rude.

Definitely not. Sorry, but that would undoubtedly start feuds.

Agreed 100%

[J-Dub74]

@sb56637

Hi J-Dub74, here’s the link to see your posts that were flagged, if any:
http://budgetlightforum.com/my-problem-posts
Sorry I haven’t figured out a way yet to make this menu link only appear for logged-in users, so it’s not on the left-hand column yet.

Thanks SB. I realize now that I saw that yesterday.

[Halo]

From the thanks button poll / thread. [quote=sb56637] At the risk of belaboring the point, I’d like to remind everyone once more that the Rude! button should not be used to express disagreement or disinterest in the post, or to express dislike of the poster. It’s only meant for rude, lewd, or conflictive posts. Another synonym for this button would be “Inappropriate”. [/quote] Perhaps it would be useful to add that to the Rude! confirmation page. Especially if you suspect that some people are using it like that. Though, I can see that it might feel a little long with that added.

[hank]

It’s working as is now, sb is wise to let it settle down.

“If you keep fiddling with it, you’ll eventually break it.” — mothers, everywhere

[sb56637]

@jhalb

How about a Ban button then? When the established community finds that an individual does not fit in for whatever reason is deemed appropriate for continued membership here, you can click the ban button and once it gets to a certain predetermined level, SB is summoned to his computer to make a final determination.

Basically this is how the Rude! button works. I try to deal with problematic users on a case-by-case basis, so there are no hard and fast rules about X number of Rude! hits = ban, but it’s always a last-recourse option.

[Bort]

@jhalb

How about a Ban button then? When the established community finds that an individual does not fit in for whatever reason is deemed appropriate for continued membership here, you can click the ban button and once it gets to a certain predetermined level, SB is summoned to his computer to make a final determination.

I love these slippery slope arguments, soon we will be arguing that if we allow grass to grow then aliens will be coming to enslave the human race. Bit of a stretch, and there are two or three steps missing, but those aliens are coming

[jhalb]

@sb56637

@jhalb

How about a Ban button then? When the established community finds that an individual does not fit in for whatever reason is deemed appropriate for continued membership here, you can click the ban button and once it gets to a certain predetermined level, SB is summoned to his computer to make a final determination.

Basically this is how the Rude! button works. I try to deal with problematic users on a case-by-case basis, so there are no hard and fast rules about X number of Rude! hits = ban, but it’s always a last-recourse option.

Your right, no need for it.

[teacher]

@hank

It’s working as is now, sb is wise to let it settle down.

“If you keep fiddling with it, you’ll eventually break it.” — mothers, everywhere

Yes and amen!
.

[Dimbo_The_Blinky]

@sb56637

Hi J-Dub74, here’s the link to see your posts that were flagged, if any:
http://budgetlightforum.com/my-problem-posts
Sorry I haven’t figured out a way yet to make this menu link only appear for logged-in users, so it’s not on the left-hand column yet.

I’m still reading, so maybe someone else has already mentioned this, but I’d think making the Rudeness Meter itself clickable, linked to /my-problem-posts might be neat.

[sb56637]

@Dimbo The Blinky

@sb56637

Hi J-Dub74, here’s the link to see your posts that were flagged, if any:
http://budgetlightforum.com/my-problem-posts
Sorry I haven’t figured out a way yet to make this menu link only appear for logged-in users, so it’s not on the left-hand column yet.

I’m still reading, so maybe someone else has already mentioned this, but I’d think making the Rudeness Meter itself clickable, linked to /my-problem-posts might be neat.

Good idea! Not sure how easy it will be to do technically though.

[raccoon]

I can mark my own posts as SPAM, but I cannot mark them as Rude...

Do I have too much time on my hands or what?

[Bort]

@raccoon city

Do I have too much time on my hands or what?

Yes

[ToyKeeper]

@Bort

slippery slopes…

Schelling fences.

[Bort]

@ToyKeeper

@Bort

slippery slopes…

Schelling fences.

Fascinating. Lately i have been thinking about path dependence, the last time i read the wikipedia article it was very confined in its implications. If A leads to B leads to C and in general we aim for improvement of the human condition then it explains why the last several millennia has shown progress, though very slow and very painful. We also have to contend with those who prefer to reverse progress that has been made.
I think this Schelling fence is overthinking, we do not have to define irrationality as an arbitrary point, we can instead go by logic, by thinking ahead one can figure out how much sleep one needs, how long it takes to fall asleep on average and wake up/getting ready and transport to work and establish a bed time. Going further one can use melatonin or blue light blocking glasses to advance the body clock and feel tired earlier, though i would typically only suggest this if medically indicated. I suspect this hypothetical person is a night owl and not a morning lark

[J-Dub74]

@sb56637

@Dimbo The Blinky

@sb56637

Hi J-Dub74, here’s the link to see your posts that were flagged, if any:
http://budgetlightforum.com/my-problem-posts
Sorry I haven’t figured out a way yet to make this menu link only appear for logged-in users, so it’s not on the left-hand column yet.

I’m still reading, so maybe someone else has already mentioned this, but I’d think making the Rudeness Meter itself clickable, linked to /my-problem-posts might be neat.

Good idea! Not sure how easy it will be to do technically though.

I don’t either but I love the idea and if anyone can pull it off, you can. Perfect way to access your own problem posts.
I also wanted to give you a tip-of-the-hat SB for the way the rudeness meter is displayed now. :face_with_monocle:
When I stayed up way too late reading the 300 or so posts as of last night when I found this thread I saw a few people were disturbed by being smacked in the face with a rudeness meter while browsing BLF…
I must admit that concerned me too while reading about it. You’ve changed it since that statement was made though. The positioning, scale and color choice you’ve adjusted it to make it all but invisible now while “BLFing” at least as a non-offender. Just another aspect of this move that has been well thought out and expertly executed. I wish I lived close enough to truly buy you a beer. :+1:

[Rufusbduck]

:person_facepalming: means oh good grief, :LOSER: is the insult one(right hand Palm out, 3 fingers curled).