Test / Review: Fake Eneloop batteries from DinoDirect and Manafont, buyers BEWARE!

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Is it even worth taking a punt on “branded” batteries from Chinese resellers?

In the UK, eneloops aren’t very expensive, and there are GP recykos and Uniross Hybrids for a little less if need be.

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Summer wrote:
…our cs also need treat every customer as their God…

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Best post I’ve seen in a while.

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heyho wrote:
Is it even worth taking a punt on “branded” batteries from Chinese resellers?

In the UK, eneloops aren’t very expensive, and there are GP recykos and Uniross Hybrids for a little less if need be.


I for one took the risk because there was very little money involved, I paid mostly in gift cards and out of 45$ spent only 11$ came immediatelly from my PayPal account, the rest were coupons and gift cards+I specifically asked their customer service whether these are UTG or UTGA generation batteries, to which they gave convincing answer that these are 2nd generation UTGA Eneloops.

I knew before even ordering my first item from them, by reading reviews here, that its going to be gambling with DinoDirect and if something is not top quality or as advertised, then there is possibility to deal with DinoDirect, albeit not without hassle, to fix it.

So yeah, you just have to play their game, buy something, always remember, that what you paid for is not always what you will receive, have patience and again play by their rules – they are trying to fool you, you should be trying to get all your money back in either PayPal refund or giftcards if there is something not satisfactory with your order.
Thats how you deal seller with dodgy sales practices and poor customer service.
Ill admit that when I ordered from them previous times, I really wanted to have a chance to deal with their customer service and play their item-not-as-described game, its fun lol Big Smile

BTW, I upated thread title and added Manafont there as well as link to FX-32’s post to let others know about Manafont fakes.

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No DD for me. I’ve heard way to much negative stuff about them. Outfits like that are the ones that make me glad that the main focus of my light addiction is NOT on budget lights but on the most reputable manufacturers (custom included) and vendors out there. DD is NOT one of those reputable vendors. I get just as mad being ripped off for $.10 as I do $1000. I place a value on my time and refuse to do hours of research to try to save a buck on a $10 set of batteries only to find out that I should have paid attention to the warnings I read from others that have already been screwed. Ignore warnings at your own risk.

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Chicago X wrote:
Summer wrote:
…our cs also need treat every customer as their God…

summer

Best post I’ve seen in a while.


Does not seem a good post to me. The first thing to do would be to stop selling fakes.
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We need answer from DD and the batteries removed from sale…

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Shadowww wrote:
FX-32, mind doing one more test – discharging at 2A down to 0.1V? I’m wondering if this low capacity result is caused by their internal resistance or just crappy chemistry..

Done!
1971mAh@2A to 0.1V
Nice capacity but… with that voltage it’s pretty useless.

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Hmm, have you tried measuring voltage with DMM, across the cell’s terminal, during 2A discharge? you might have some parasite resistance somewhere in discharging circuit.

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Shadowww wrote:
Hmm, have you tried measuring voltage with DMM, across the cell’s terminal, during 2A discharge? you might have some parasite resistance somewhere in discharging circuit.

I haven’t measure it… but parasite resistance will be always there maybe higher or lower but it can’t be eliminated; I used the thicker wires I could directly to the charger to discharge the cell.

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Well, I’m just suspecting it might be a real eneloop with high resistance in your discharging circuit.. Actual fake/crappy battery wouldn’t give out it’s full capacity with just voltage being lower than normal.

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Shadowww wrote:
Well, I’m just suspecting it might be a real eneloop with high resistance in your discharging circuit.. Actual fake/crappy battery wouldn’t give out it’s full capacity with just voltage being lower than normal.

I think it’s a very good copy, I have tested Turnigy AA LSD with better results than this “eneloop”. Also, if these were real ones, they should have the date code on the side. The printing on also has different spacing than the real ones, but without orthographic errors.

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Real ones would be around 1800-2100*mah maximum, whole batch would have identical capacity numbers after break in, fake ones are between 1800mah and 2500mah, I dont care even if these are genuine coming from old stock, they dont deliver, they dont perform, they suck, period Big Smile

*2100mah in regular Eneloops is what Ive seen kreisler here reporting, not what Sanyo says.

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Funny, I already told Manafont in May 2011 that their Eneloops were fake…

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mfm wrote:
Funny, I already told Manafont in May 2011 that their Eneloops were fake…

I’m “talking” with their Customer Service via email… it sucks, they try to avoid and delay everything they can, it makes me think that they don’t even read what I write showing proves… Dealextreme was easier and better every time I used they CS.

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mfm wrote:
Funny, I already told Manafont in May 2011 that their Eneloops were fake…

Still for sale…

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FX-32 wrote:
mfm wrote:
Funny, I already told Manafont in May 2011 that their Eneloops were fake…
I’m “talking” with their Customer Service via email… it sucks, they try to avoid and delay everything they can, it makes me think that they don’t even read what I write showing proves… Dealextreme was easier and better every time I used they CS.

With Jim?

From what I remember, they will check with their supplier who will then tell them if the product is fake or not… (or mimic as they call it). So I guess the supplier of the fake Eneloops doesn’t tell them it’s fake…

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mfm wrote:
Funny, I already told Manafont in May 2011 that their Eneloops were fake…
I’m “talking” with their Customer Service via email… it sucks, they try to avoid and delay everything they can, it makes me think that they don’t even read what I write showing proves… Dealextreme was easier and better every time I used they CS.

With Jim?

From what I remember, they will check with their supplier who will then tell them if the product is fake or not… (or mimic as they call it). So I guess the supplier of the fake Eneloops doesn’t tell them it’s fake…


With Audrey. Waiting for a response right now… I hate this (and everybody does!)

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FX-32 wrote:
With Audrey. Waiting for a response right now… I hate this (and everybody does!)

Jim listened when I complained and added “mimic” to all fake Solarforce items (but not to the fake Eneloop or the fake Maxell batteries I also complained about).

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I guess those fake batteries sell quite well, hence why they dont remove them from their listing or dont add clarifications that these are not original products.

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First post updated, thanks ;)!

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MRsDNF wrote:

Maybe someone is reading this?

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/sanyo-brand-mimic-eneloop-12v-2000mah-rechargeable-nimh-aa-battery-4pc-pack-p-5685


Nice… maybe my contact with their CS had this effect?

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Sanyo should shut this down. Even on Manafont where they admit it, it’s trademark infringement. That’s some pretty sleazy tactics there.

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Bigpal wrote:
Sanyo should shut this down. Even on Manafont where they admit it, it’s trademark infringement. That’s some pretty sleazy tactics there.

People have to be pretty naive to think that a Chinese company would sell genuine Eneloops with European/American packaging for a low price…

The genuine Eneloops sold in Hong Kong have a “Sanyo HK” hologram sticker, the other fake ones are sold everywhere.

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mfm wrote:

People have to be pretty naive to think that a Chinese company would sell genuine Eneloops with European/American packaging for a low price…

The genuine Eneloops sold in Hong Kong have a “Sanyo HK” hologram sticker, the other fake ones are sold everywhere.

I know that and you know that, but regardless of how naive someone is, it’s not the buyers fault. There are some regular buyers who probably come to that site searching for Eneloops or batteries.

Then, get these and they’re junk. Now what does that person think and tell others about Eneloops? It’s misrepresentation and damaging and there’s no excuse for it.

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Cheap testers are really making a nightmare out of honest Fake-Battery sellers try to get a living…

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spotted this preview picture on Dinodirect. looks real!!

 

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kreisler wrote:

spotted this preview picture on Dinodirect. looks real!!

 


Manafont’s eneloops also looks like this… and they are not real.

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I believe that enough pictures and user posts have been submitted to realise by now that DinoDirect and Manafont are selling fake Eneloop branded batteries, check out original post Kreisler Wink

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you win

 

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