10 18650s at HD for $22?

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haha ok I will just leave them as-is. i figured an iron on them would be pretty sketchy but wasn’t sure. all of my cells are reading 3.65-3.66 V! only tore down 1 pack so far. still waiting to decide what to do with the other. the store I went to had one left after me, and another store across town has 8 left in stock. seems to be a bunch around here (Indianapolis, IN)

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yeah it it's extremely dangerous with all the wires that are so close top each other I shortest it for half a second and sparks flew and it took a while for them to die down. Easily the hardest pack I've ever had to take apart. However I'm really excited about these as I now have20 of them. 

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I was very careful and had no shorts. I started by removing the wire st the top, and then carefully turning my needle nose to wrap the tabs around them. Was still pretty hairy. They did not want anyone getting to those cells lol

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I usually dissemble packs outside, so I can toss the thing FAR away from me if something shorts. Those thick wires coming off the tabs in this pack are particulalrly hairy. I cut them all first, which probably wasn’t a good idea, so I had a forest of live wires looking for my needle nose pliers. Probably better to do one at a time and rip each set of tabs off before continuing.

I agree with Scaru. I have done maybe 35-40 packs at this point, and this one was definitely the most involved and hairiest.

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Great find! I will be visiting my local HD to see if they have any left.

Has anyone confirmed if these batteries actually make a flashlight led brighter?

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I don’t think it would make a light brighter unless it wanted to draw more amps than another battery could handle

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@Pulsar, yeah that is true. I need them for my multi-XML P60 lights. 

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I’m a little late to party on this one. Got mine this morning, my store had 3 in stock “but they don’t have a home”. Where have we heard that one before? Silly Anyway, a clerk and I found them on a top shelf in a plain unmarked box. Lucky. There’s 2 more and only he and I know where they are, so they are safe for the time being.
I had read this pack was hard to break into, but I thought that for me and my drill press – no problem. Even so, it was VERY difficult. What I did is use a 3/8” drill to drill off the tops of the security torx head screws, probably just like everyone else. When I was finished only 9 of the 10 cells were good. Here are the pics to show how dangerous this kind of activity can be! I was lucky twice.
First the pack removed and stripped of wiring, no sparks for me!

Next, after I split the pack by removing the 2 screws holding it together. (when I found them I actually shouted out. Thank God, phillips head)
All but one of the batteries slid out. Upon closer examination, I noticed that the one that did not slide out was behind what was left of one of the screws I had drilled out. I figure that when I was drilling the head off that screw, the bit caught hold of the head and spun it right thru the back of the casing and into one of the cells. So I took a Stanley knife and carefully scribed a line in the plastic so that I could grab it and “tear” it away. Sure enough, that’s what happened.

See how easy it is to screw up (no pun intended, really) when doing something like this. The funny thing, the whole time I was breaking into the pack, I kept stopping and using the on board battery checker to test the pack to make sure it wasn’t getting damaged. How handy that was, I thought at the time.

BTW, all the cells were charged to exactly 3.66 volts, including the damaged one. So I got 9 good cells. I lost out on 10%, good thing I saved 5% for using my HD credit card.

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The first 4 (I put in the charger this morning) are now fully charged. I put one in my Olight i6 and I can't tell a difference in the brightness between it and my "Panasonic Protected NCR18650A 3100mAh 3.7V" Battery.

For some of my work, I need Torx screw drivers. They came in really handy today. It's unfortunate that other people have had difficulty removing these cells, I found it quite easy thanks to the torx drivers.

If I were to do it again, I would, however, wrap my pliers in tape before trying to remove the terminals (I got some sparks).

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>>>>(I got some sparks).

I don’t know waht is the most disconcerting, the sparks shooting like little comets 5 feet from the batteries OR the LOUD snap crackle and pop arc-welding noises that accompany the sparks. You wouldn’t think 3.6 volts would even be capable of producing a spark.

Then again, an electrician friend and I were troubleshooting a short in my house wiring. He went to cut through Romex coming directly from the pole — so no circuit breakers. Last thing I heard him say was: “You turned off the power right?”

Then he disappeared with a thunderclap inside a brighter-than-god glowing purple orb of plasma, like a mini-sun or magnesium on fire, like three feet in diameter.

No, Rick, I did NOT shut off the power. You never asked.

I honestly thought he was dead, but the pulsing orb disappeared in a second and there was Rick’s face, with singed eyebrows and hair. It would be months before any grew back on his arms.

“heh heh oops” he said.

I had NO idea that 120-volts could produce such an intense effect! I do now.

Still have the wire cutters he used up in Death Valley somewhere. Pretty much melted the cutter part. Handles were very well insulated. Probably what saved his life.

But the day wasn’t over yet …. He went on to do several “atomic situps,” which involve unintentionally grabbing a live 120 circuit while lying down. BOY did he ever sit up fast, hence the “atomic situp” description.

Wasn’t one of his best days. He STILL blames the melted cutters on me for not shutting off the juice. :-0

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Ubehebe wrote:
>>>>(I got some sparks). I don't know waht is the most disconcerting, the sparks shooting like little comets 5 feet from the batteries OR the LOUD snap crackle and pop arc-welding noises that accompany the sparks. You wouldn't think 3.6 volts would even be capable of producing a spark. Then again, an electrician friend and I were troubleshooting a short in my house wiring. He went to cut through Romex coming directly from the pole -- so no circuit breakers. Last thing I heard him say was: "You turned off the power right?" Then he disappeared with a thunderclap inside a brighter-than-god glowing purple orb of plasma, like a mini-sun or magnesium on fire, like three feet in diameter. No, Rick, I did NOT shut off the power. You never asked. I honestly thought he was dead, but the pulsing orb disappeared in a second and there was Rick's face, with singed eyebrows and hair. It would be months before any grew back on his arms. "heh heh oops" he said. I had NO idea that 120-volts could produce such an intense effect! I do now. Still have the wire cutters he used up in Death Valley somewhere. Pretty much melted the cutter part. Handles were very well insulated. Probably what saved his life. But the day wasn't over yet .... He went on to do several "atomic situps," which involve unintentionally grabbing a live 120 circuit while lying down. BOY did he ever sit up fast, hence the "atomic situp" description. Wasn't one of his best days. He STILL blames the melted cutters on me for not shutting off the juice. :-0

That is friggen' hilarious!... probably not as funny to Rick.

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Wait, there are screws holding the plastic together? Where are these mystical screws? I've been tearing mine apart with a pair of pliers...

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Wait, there are screws holding the plastic together? Where are these mystical screws? I've been tearing mine apart with a pair of pliers...

 

There are 2 screws, down in between the batteries holding the 2 pieces of plastic together. Removing them (and removing the metal 'leads' attached to the batteries), makes disassemble quite easy.

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If you look at it from the side where you see the negative and positive terminals, there are several recessed areas… Two of them have regular Phillips head screws holding the two halves together.
I am saving the two halves for battery stands. I’ll have two seperate 10×18650 “stands”

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Please DON’T CRACK THESE OPEN!

I have some Black & Decker tools that use them, and will gladly trade your pack in exchange for 10 brand new high power cells of your choice (even CGR18650CH’s). I have quite a number of new CGR18650CH’s on hand, but can also get most other high power cells from Samsung or Sanyo for example. Or I’d also trade other flashlight stuff that I sell for one or more of these packs. PM ME!

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EDCPlus wrote:
Please DON’T CRACK THESE OPEN!

I have some Black & Decker tools that use them, and will gladly trade your pack in exchange for 10 brand new high power cells of your choice (even CGR18650CH’s). I have quite a number of new CGR18650CH’s on hand, but can also get most other high power cells from Samsung or Sanyo for example. Or I’d also trade other flashlight stuff that I sell for one or more of these packs. PM ME!


Thanks… Now you tell me… Now I got to go to auburn tomorrow to see if they have any stock
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EDCPlus wrote:
Please DON’T CRACK THESE OPEN!

I have some Black & Decker tools that use them, and will gladly trade your pack in exchange for 10 brand new high power cells of your choice (even CGR18650CH’s). I have quite a number of new CGR18650CH’s on hand, but can also get most other high power cells from Samsung or Sanyo for example. Or I’d also trade other flashlight stuff that I sell for one or more of these packs. PM ME!


Oh you poor soul, you must be going out of your mind whilst us barbarians are sacking and pillaging Wink

I was in Lowes today, they plenty of them for sale…….. for $89.95!

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@EDCPlus, PM sent. I have one NIB. Smile

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EDCPlus wrote:
Please DON’T CRACK THESE OPEN!

I have some Black & Decker tools that use them, and will gladly trade your pack in exchange for 10 brand new high power cells of your choice (even CGR18650CH’s). I have quite a number of new CGR18650CH’s on hand, but can also get most other high power cells from Samsung or Sanyo for example. Or I’d also trade other flashlight stuff that I sell for one or more of these packs. PM ME!


Oh you poor soul, you must be going out of your mind whilst us barbarians are sacking and pillaging Wink

I was in Lowes today, they plenty of them for sale…….. for $89.95!

Haha yea hate seeing people crack open perfectly good packs. And I just happen to have a good use for these packs for my B&D Tools.

Thanks for the PM’s guys and keep them coming if you are able to get any of these, my offer still stands.

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You willing to take all you can get? I’d rather not take a trip to auburn if not neccisary. Don’t even know if they have any. But I’ll find out for sure if we can make a deal. Can you get Panasonic’s?

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Well I worked out a deal with him, saves me the trouble of dealing with defusing a second pack. Big Smile Thanks EDCPlus!!! 

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Pulsar wrote:
You willing to take all you can get? I’d rather not take a trip to auburn if not neccisary. Don’t even know if they have any. But I’ll find out for sure if we can make a deal. Can you get Panasonic’s?

Yes I will take as many as I can get. I’m offering people up to $60 worth at edcplus.com or 10x Panasonic CGR18650CH’s. Or I can get other cells like Panny 3400’s etc.

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stay tuned… road trip tomorrow S)

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Then he disappeared with a thunderclap inside a brighter-than-god glowing purple orb of plasma, like a mini-sun or magnesium on fire, like three feet in diameter.

I had NO idea that 120-volts could produce such an intense effect! I do now.


Several hundred amps available from the circuit, I would think. Fuses are a good thing.
Another thing to bear in mind if anyone’s poking around in their household wiring with cheap five dollar meters – they don’t usually have much in the way of protection, internally. It’s not unknown for professional sparkies to use cheap sheet meters and blow themselves up when poking around a main distribution board.
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I always seem to have luck at my Home Depot, road trip tomorrow.

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>>>>>And I just happen to have a good use for these packs for my B&D Tools.

I am not going to go back through all the threads and look up where I saw this, but I ++DEFINITELY++ saw that this BD power pack is very limited in its use for BD tools. I was looking up trying to find what cells were in this pack and I saw several threads where people wanted to use this pack for X tool or X thingamabob, and they were told it would not work. If you’re after these for a specific use, you no doubt have all this covered and have checked what you can use these packs for, but its use did seem to be pretty limited.

I also remember the HD guys telling me it only works in BD string trimmers and that’s why they have been sitting on the shelf for next to forever at 75% off. But they were HD guys after all, so I have NO idea how accurate that statement was/is.

Quick Google look-see shows it compatible with the LST136 string trimmer, LHT2436 hedge trimmer and LSW36 sweeper vac —— and nothing else I could find. But then — like I said — I did not do anything even remotely resembling a thorough search.

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Just finished a discharge test on one of them and it did 1496 mah at a 1 amp discharge, so definitely the 1500 mah cells. 

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Ubehebe wrote:
Quick Google look-see shows it compatible with the LST136 string trimmer, LHT2436 hedge trimmer and LSW36 sweeper vac —— and nothing else I could find. But then — like I said — I did not do anything even remotely resembling a thorough search.

Yep. I have a string trimmer and its awesome. I also have a 20v B&D Blower, but will get a 36v soon. They are great tools. And yea right now those 3 tools are the only ones I know of that use the 36v packs. Probably in the future there will be 36v drills and other yard related tools (chainsaw perhaps?). I have quite a few B&D 20v tools as well, they are great. After all B&D owns Dewalt and Porter Cable, so they make some pretty nice stuff. In fact there are many porter cable tools that are simply rebranded B&D’s.

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Just finished a discharge test on one of them and it did 1496 mah at a 1 amp discharge, so definitely the 1500 mah cells. 

Good to hear that they are performing well. Smile Also I’m curious what the pack date is on these. It should have 2011 or 2012 stamped on the black top of the pack.

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the one i got was a 2012. but my average cell voltage was lower than everyone elses. maybe my multimeter is finally crapping out? on full charged cells its reading 4.12v… maybe my cheap trustfire charger or maybe the multimeter…

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The one I opened up was a 2012, can't read the date on the one still in the package though.

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