I have one at home, two more in transit and just ordered one more. I got a 5A reading using a Sony US18650VTC3.
5A is up there if you left it all stock with the thin LED wires, no copper wired springs. Not surprising you got it that high though - still aluminum star and those SONY 30A's are an incredible cell - on par, maybe better than the Sam 20R's. 5A's on an aluminum star though can be dangerous, but the SONY 30A's sure won't last too long at that high amp range.
Can you provide links to the best places to buy those batts? I'm going to give them a try.
They are only 1600 mAh, so good for a couple of mins of high lumens glory . I've used these things in Super Shockers, and other high amp lights and they are great to see capability, and best possible output/throw you can get, but practical usage is somewhat limited for sure. I call them the SONY 30A cells for short. Very similar to the high amp SONY 26650's - great for testing with, but at 2600 mAh or so, not practical for a 26650.
Be very carefuly with these things, like the Samsung 20R's. For direct drive lights (East-092 drivers, etc.) and others out there, you get in some dangerous level of amps at a full charge. If you use a high amp regulated driver, these type of cells are the best to reach those high amps, not for long though...
Mine came in today, good tight spot with very mild rings in the spill. The threads were dry but all clean. Takes a 3400 protected cell easily. Metal reflector, almost no noise on the lower settings. Worked fine straight out of the bubble mailer. Good build quality overall, even the glass was clean for a change.
Got my TangsFire XM-L2 U3 today. It pulls 4.65A on a fresh Pana PD - 1,054 lumens @start, 976 lumens at 30 secs. I'd expect a big drop for 4.65A on an aluminum star. Tried the threads - yet another C8 thread size and cut, oh boy... Really was hoping it was going to be a true C8 thread. The pill threading is bigger than a Convoy C8 and UF T-20/LightMalls C8, so no chance brass or copper pills will fit. Like a Convoy C8, it came with a 16mm star - kind of surprising.
The body and reflector are clean - excellent condition. It's not bad, was hoping a little more compatible though.
Really really doubt it's a U3 - 4.65A and 976 lumens?? The copper star will make a substantial difference, but I got over 1,300 lumens on my Convoy C8 at 4.2A.
Just got mine today and I’m impressed. This thing is super bright, brightest hotspot I have seen on any light so far. Good build quality, feels like it weighs twice as much as my KD C8. One question, I was using a 2600 mah AW protected cell, would a high drain battery make this light brighter? I can’t measure the current draw because my crap multimeter only measures up to 1 amp.
I was the first one to order, on this Christmas Deal, but haven’t got it yet. Yes, different battery Chemistry’s will allow more current draw. My best are these:
I saw the deal about 10min after it was posted and decided I had too many flashlights on the way to my house… Now I’m kicking myself. Dang it! I even have an unused noctigon I could plop that xml2 on. Grr.
It looks beautiful and actually pulls about .3 amps more than the first one.
Cleanest lens, flawless finish.
Blazing hot spot, I love this light..
Later,
Keith
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“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain
…
After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
The description for the Samsung INR18650-20R cell on the MTN electronics site says “Lights that draw around 5 amps direct drive on an NCR18650B draw 9+ on this cell”. Is this true? Can this light even handle that kind of current?
The description for the Samsung INR18650-20R cell on the MTN electronics site says “Lights that draw around 5 amps direct drive on an NCR18650B draw 9+ on this cell”. Is this true? Can this light even handle that kind of current?
In stock form, NO, this light is not going to survive 9 amps.
The led is mounted on an Aluminum star, the wiring is too restrictive, etc. When you push any electronic circuit past it’s limits it will either, stabilize at a certain current, or become a Fuse.
That is, the weakest link will fail and create an open, or maybe just a smoke show
Therefore it is probably best to leave the light at the 4.5 – 5 amp level and even then long term reliability will be in question.
Can the light be built up to a reliable 9 amps?
Probably, but as they say in Drag Racing “Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?”
Later,
Keith
—
The difference between Hoarding and Collecting is the illusion of Organization
.
.“I will get one of flashlight from patrol car”
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain
…
After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
Ok received my light yesterday
From first looks I thought the reflector was seriously messed up
So I unscrewed it and the reflector is great looking
What I saw in the reflector was an extremely dirty LED
It looked like someone had taken the pill and dropped it into a pile of sawdust
After cleaning and reassembly I took it for a spin
I must say it has a wonderful hotspot
But a very ugly green corona and purple spill
I’m still in my early stages of flasholism and haven’t progressed to being a tint snob yet but the color is down right ugly
Lens does appear to be coated but doesn’t look as good as the lenses I got from RMM
The driver works great and is silent although pwm is noticible in med and low
I will be changing out the star with a noctigon braid the springs and upgrading the wires in the next few days and push it as hard as I can and hopefully post before and after beamshots
After cleaning and reassembly I took it for a spin I must say it has a wonderful hotspot But a very ugly green corona and purple spill I'm still in my early stages of flasholism and haven't progressed to being a tint snob yet but the color is down right ugly
Typical "thrower" reflectors will have these effects with cool tints - white intense center, yellow/green corona, blue spill - P60's, C8's, HD 2010, etc, pretty much all show the same pattern. The emphasis is on max throw. An OP reflector's white wall beam will look a lot cleaner, but sacrifices throw of course. TIR optics are my favorite for beam patterns I'm finding out, but I only know of ones available for tube lights (small diameter).
Have to go to a Family Dinner, but opened it. Well, well, it is not a C8, it i s a C8-D. AKA a C-8 Deep or C-8 Long. Plastic hybrid SMO/OP Reflector. Don’t know if it is a U3, but is an XM-L2. Okay, so it Draws 3.5 amps on a LG:
CORRECTION: Most C8 Deeps have a Plastic hybrid SMO/0P Reflector — Apologies, sorry, this one is a C8 Deep with an AL – U – Mini – Umm SMO Reflector … I’ll be danged. Nice and clean, SQUARE threads look good, but dry, very Bright, well worth the money — am pleased with the Light … Sorry for Jumping the Shark on this …
I received one from China and one from the US. The Chinese one is very cool white and the US one is almost a Neutral White! Good Deal for both!
T-Mart, can we get a deal similar to this on an HD2010? It would have to cost more but THAT would be great!
+1 on the HD2010 deal, that’s on my wish list!
I tried to get a coupon for the tangsfire ones (there the best ones right?) but looks like a no go as it’s not a hot item, so unlikely to get one unless there is decent demand for one?
note that answer was not from louis huang so maybe they can still help?
I received mine last week I compared it with a $9 C-8 the one that was mentioned then subsequently panned here, and a Solarforce L2P w/M3 head($52)… Much better beam and brighter than the cheap C8, and just as good as the M3 (within the confines of my testing, limited to 50 feet. The best deal I have received yet on a budget flashlight!
Location: A light beam away from the missus in the land of Aus.
Mine turned up really quick as well. Took me by surprise when it turned up. Its really nice for a C8 and is direct drive on high. It uses the same amount of current as my C12 with a very similar light output.
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And there’s another reason I don’t have a C8 …
Oh boy - think I got mine from eBay or FT maybe?? These cells are not very practical though, listed here for your info: http://www.fasttech.com/products/1420/10004185/1315400-sony-us18650vtc3-18650-1600mah-3-7v-rechargeable
They are only 1600 mAh, so good for a couple of mins of high lumens glory
. I've used these things in Super Shockers, and other high amp lights and they are great to see capability, and best possible output/throw you can get, but practical usage is somewhat limited for sure. I call them the SONY 30A cells for short. Very similar to the high amp SONY 26650's - great for testing with, but at 2600 mAh or so, not practical for a 26650.
Be very carefuly with these things, like the Samsung 20R's. For direct drive lights (East-092 drivers, etc.) and others out there, you get in some dangerous level of amps at a full charge. If you use a high amp regulated driver, these type of cells are the best to reach those high amps, not for long though...
I went to order one yesterday evening(europe)around the time of Tom E's post,#21,which I hadn't seen.Put in order,look for
coupon box-,no-,abandon.
Reread thread and decide to try again,maybe code is after you start on Paypal.I press pay on paypal,coupon box is there,fill in
code,response;code expired.Price is 13 euros something ($19.**).I get a page from tmart with a box,"buy now" or" order
now".Nowhere to cancel so I just click off the page.Checked my Paypal a/c,no movement,-good.
Check my e-mails this morning,Tmart"congratulations on your purchase of Tangfire.......for $12."RESULT.Nice
commercial
gesture by Tmart,well,that's how I see it.A60 and a C8 in 3 days and less than 20 euros the pair,must be Xmas
The Tmart TangsFire C8 is a winner even at $17.
Mine came in today, good tight spot with very mild rings in the spill. The threads were dry but all clean. Takes a 3400 protected cell easily. Metal reflector, almost no noise on the lower settings. Worked fine straight out of the bubble mailer. Good build quality overall, even the glass was clean for a change.
My first C8, I think I need a couple more. H)
I posted this on the other TangsFire C8 thread:
Got my TangsFire XM-L2 U3 today. It pulls 4.65A on a fresh Pana PD - 1,054 lumens @start, 976 lumens at 30 secs. I'd expect a big drop for 4.65A on an aluminum star. Tried the threads - yet another C8 thread size and cut, oh boy... Really was hoping it was going to be a true C8 thread. The pill threading is bigger than a Convoy C8 and UF T-20/LightMalls C8, so no chance brass or copper pills will fit. Like a Convoy C8, it came with a 16mm star - kind of surprising.
The body and reflector are clean - excellent condition. It's not bad, was hoping a little more compatible though.
Really really doubt it's a U3 - 4.65A and 976 lumens?? The copper star will make a substantial difference, but I got over 1,300 lumens on my Convoy C8 at 4.2A.
Just got mine today and I’m impressed. This thing is super bright, brightest hotspot I have seen on any light so far. Good build quality, feels like it weighs twice as much as my KD C8. One question, I was using a 2600 mah AW protected cell, would a high drain battery make this light brighter? I can’t measure the current draw because my crap multimeter only measures up to 1 amp.
I was the first one to order, on this Christmas Deal, but haven’t got it yet. Yes, different battery Chemistry’s will allow more current draw. My best are these:
http://www.batteryspace.com/LG-Lithium-18650-Cylindrical-Rechargeable-Ce...
Have got over 6 amps, for a short period on this Battery Chemistry.
Flomotion
It’s direct drive in high mode, so high drain is best. Depending on the cell, you can achieve as high as 5A.
I saw the deal about 10min after it was posted and decided I had too many flashlights on the way to my house… Now I’m kicking myself. Dang it! I even have an unused noctigon I could plop that xml2 on. Grr.
Buy Now, and Think later, this place is full of irrational Flashaholics … J) 0:)
Flomotion
It looks beautiful and actually pulls about .3 amps more than the first one.
Cleanest lens, flawless finish.
Blazing hot spot, I love this light..
Later,
Keith
The difference between Hoarding and Collecting is the illusion of Organization
.
.“I will get one of flashlight from patrol car”
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain
…
After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
The description for the Samsung INR18650-20R cell on the MTN electronics site says “Lights that draw around 5 amps direct drive on an NCR18650B draw 9+ on this cell”. Is this true? Can this light even handle that kind of current?
Maybe in theory on paper.
Can tmart sell us the dd drivers which are used in C8?
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In stock form, NO, this light is not going to survive 9 amps.
The led is mounted on an Aluminum star, the wiring is too restrictive, etc. When you push any electronic circuit past it’s limits it will either, stabilize at a certain current, or become a Fuse.
That is, the weakest link will fail and create an open, or maybe just a smoke show
Therefore it is probably best to leave the light at the 4.5 – 5 amp level and even then long term reliability will be in question.
Can the light be built up to a reliable 9 amps?
Probably, but as they say in Drag Racing “Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?”
Later,
Keith
The difference between Hoarding and Collecting is the illusion of Organization
.
.“I will get one of flashlight from patrol car”
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain
…
After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
Ok received my light yesterday
From first looks I thought the reflector was seriously messed up
So I unscrewed it and the reflector is great looking
What I saw in the reflector was an extremely dirty LED
It looked like someone had taken the pill and dropped it into a pile of sawdust
After cleaning and reassembly I took it for a spin
I must say it has a wonderful hotspot
But a very ugly green corona and purple spill
I’m still in my early stages of flasholism and haven’t progressed to being a tint snob yet but the color is down right ugly
Lens does appear to be coated but doesn’t look as good as the lenses I got from RMM
The driver works great and is silent although pwm is noticible in med and low
I will be changing out the star with a noctigon braid the springs and upgrading the wires in the next few days and push it as hard as I can and hopefully post before and after beamshots
Typical "thrower" reflectors will have these effects with cool tints - white intense center, yellow/green corona, blue spill - P60's, C8's, HD 2010, etc, pretty much all show the same pattern. The emphasis is on max throw. An OP reflector's white wall beam will look a lot cleaner, but sacrifices throw of course. TIR optics are my favorite for beam patterns I'm finding out, but I only know of ones available for tube lights (small diameter).
Have to go to a Family Dinner, but opened it. Well, well, it is not a C8, it i s a C8-D. AKA a C-8 Deep or C-8 Long.
Plastic hybrid SMO/OP Reflector. Don’t know if it is a U3, but is an XM-L2. Okay, so it Draws 3.5 amps on a LG:http://www.batteryspace.com/LG-Lithium-18650-Cylindrical-Rechargeable-Ce...
CORRECTION: Most C8 Deeps have a Plastic hybrid SMO/0P Reflector — Apologies, sorry, this one is a C8 Deep with an AL – U – Mini – Umm SMO Reflector … I’ll be danged. Nice and clean, SQUARE threads look good, but dry, very Bright, well worth the money — am pleased with the Light … Sorry for Jumping the Shark on this …
Flomotion
works very wel great deal Tmart thx
it is more heavy ,longer than one normal c8.; good on/of de led = cool white maybe +-7000 ?
tomorrow coming my HD2010 i see
Received mine yesterday.
Works great. Some dirt/dust on reflector though …
I received one from China and one from the US. The Chinese one is very cool white and the US one is almost a Neutral White! Good Deal for both!
T-Mart, can we get a deal similar to this on an HD2010? It would have to cost more but THAT would be great!
+1 on the HD2010 deal, that’s on my wish list!
https://www.youtube.com/user/heggood/videos
I tried to get a coupon for the tangsfire ones (there the best ones right?) but looks like a no go as it’s not a hot item, so unlikely to get one unless there is decent demand for one?
note that answer was not from louis huang so maybe they can still help?
I received mine last week I compared it with a $9 C-8 the one that was mentioned then subsequently panned here, and a Solarforce L2P w/M3 head($52)… Much better beam and brighter than the cheap C8, and just as good as the M3 (within the confines of my testing, limited to 50 feet. The best deal I have received yet on a budget flashlight!
No one notices when things are going right
Wow this time it took TMART only 12 days to send my Tangsfire C8 compared to my last two orders from them that took almost a month to arrived
May the light be with you…
Mine turned up really quick as well. Took me by surprise when it turned up. Its really nice for a C8 and is direct drive on high. It uses the same amount of current as my C12 with a very similar light output.
djozz quotes, "it came with chinese lettering that is chinese to me".
"My man mousehole needs one too"
old4570 said "I'm not an expert , so don't suffer from any such technical restrictions".
Old-Lumens. Highly admired and cherished member of Budget Light Forum. 11.5.2011 - 20.12.16. RIP.
The just had a deal on the Tangsfire HD2010 for $24.99 or $22.49 with Tmart points here.
http://atvillustrated.com/files/logo.2013.yamaha.racing.blue_.jpg
Thanks!
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