Simon has an XP-L Hi Convoy C8

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Simon has an XP-L Hi Convoy C8
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I just built one last night. Its not the brightest but it throws far still about 1100 lumen maybe a tad more. I like it id say it out throws the BLF D80
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nice!
Still no moon though.

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Interesting, thanks!

Guess the larger head of the C8 causes it to throw quite a bit?

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Yea its defiantly a pocket thrower I got to light up a reflector sign at 450 meters across water it kind of makes me feel disappointed in my L2 but I have another DD and another XPLHI on a copper board ready for the L2

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Yeah, the C8 paired with XPL HI will not seem very bright, but the throw is amazing for the size. For comparison, my BLF D80 drawing 3.6A appears to be much brighter than the convoy drawing 5.3A.

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How is it drawing so much power?

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How is it drawing so much power?

Well you see that slightly dimmer light is actually a straight arc of electricity from driver to reflector Big Smile it gives it a nice cool tint Cool

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How is it drawing so much power?

XP-LHI V21A, MTN-17DDm, 20AWG wire, 22AWG spring bypass, LG HG2. I hope my DMM is correct, but I’ve seen some people report up to almost 6A direct driving the XP-L HI.

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Hmmmm maybe I’ll use thicker wire cause I am using the stock wire that came with BLF DD same set up as you I have spring bypass 20 awg cable and running a HG2 I am getting 3 amps at tailcap.
But im sure my multimeter reads low because I only get 4.5 amps on my s70 and every one else is getting 5.5 maybe because im using stock leads on it.

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Hmmmm maybe I’ll use thicker wire cause I am using the stock wire that came with BLF DD same set up as you I have spring bypass 20 awg cable and running a HG2 I am getting 3 amps at tailcap.
But im sure my multimeter reads low because I only get 4.5 amps on my s70 and every one else is getting 5.5 maybe because im using stock leads on it.

Yep, that (bolded) is probably the main issue. You might try another battery as well. Sadly, there are a lot of counterfeit HG2s out there, and they are often “mixed in” with cartons of genuine cells.
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I put an xp-l hi in my stock thorfire c8. The overall lumens stayed the same in my ceiling bounce test, but the lux on the hot spot almost doubled.

The hotspot is far brighter than my xintd c8 xp-g2, and close to blf d80

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Hmmmm maybe I’ll use thicker wire cause I am using the stock wire that came with BLF DD same set up as you I have spring bypass 20 awg cable and running a HG2 I am getting 3 amps at tailcap.
But im sure my multimeter reads low because I only get 4.5 amps on my s70 and every one else is getting 5.5 maybe because im using stock leads on it.

Yep, that (bolded) is probably the main issue. You might try another battery as well. Sadly, there are a lot of counterfeit HG2s out there, and they are often “mixed in” with cartons of genuine cells.

I can vouch for mine being real I was testing the BLF direct drive and got over 20 amps from one of those cells
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I talked to Simon about making an XPL-HI C8 a few months ago but I didn’t realize he was going forward with it yet. We are working on the driver thing too. Moon is coming as well as some other tweaks. Stay tuned. Cool

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I talked to Simon about making an XPL-HI C8 a few months ago but I didn’t realize he was going forward with it yet. We are working on the driver thing too. Moon is coming as well as some other tweaks. Stay tuned. Cool

hey mate does Simon sell a XPl-HI centering ring for the c8?
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I’ve got 4 C8s with fet+1s and XP-L HI V2 1As and 1 C8 with a dedomed XP-G2 S4 2B and a fet+1 sitting at the house that I’m about to put up for sale after I take some pictures. All of the tail springs are bypassed directly to the switch. The throw with the XP-L HI in the C8 is better than that of the XP-L HI in an Eagle Eye X6. The throw of the dedomed XP-G2 is phenomenal.

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I talked to Simon about making an XPL-HI C8 a few months ago but I didn’t realize he was going forward with it yet. We are working on the driver thing too. Moon is coming as well as some other tweaks. Stay tuned. Cool
hey mate does Simon sell a XPl-HI centering ring for the c8?

I believe he does, but Rmm did not have luck with it, I tried it in a m2, with nichia 219c and I did not have luck either.

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JakeDjanitor wrote:
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J-Dub74 wrote:
I talked to Simon about making an XPL-HI C8 a few months ago but I didn’t realize he was going forward with it yet. We are working on the driver thing too. Moon is coming as well as some other tweaks. Stay tuned. Cool
hey mate does Simon sell a XPl-HI centering ring for the c8?

I believe he does, but Rmm did not have luck with it, I tried it in a m2, with nichia 219c and I did not have luck either.

I used the round ones that RMM sells for the C8 and they seem to work fine for me, unless I’m missing something. I’ll take some beamshots tonight and see what you guys think.

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yea they are crazy throwers i got mine to about 500 meters just now

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djburkes wrote:
JakeDjanitor wrote:
everydaysurvivalgear wrote:
J-Dub74 wrote:
I talked to Simon about making an XPL-HI C8 a few months ago but I didn’t realize he was going forward with it yet. We are working on the driver thing too. Moon is coming as well as some other tweaks. Stay tuned. Cool
hey mate does Simon sell a XPl-HI centering ring for the c8?

I believe he does, but Rmm did not have luck with it, I tried it in a m2, with nichia 219c and I did not have luck either.

I used the round ones that RMM sells for the C8 and they seem to work fine for me, unless I’m missing something. I’ll take some beamshots tonight and see what you guys think.


Yeah, I think the L2 and C8 have the same size opening (9mm I believe) so that’s the centering ring that would work. Richard isn’t a fan of round centering rings. He said some of the ones he received had holes that were too large to properly center the emitter. I did see that in a few pictures but I think most of them are good. Personally I like them but the ones I have are made right and doing their job nicely. I discussed that issue with Simon and he communicated these complaints back to the factory so they are paying closer attention to tolerances.
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That’s a lot a light for around $20

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yea i just checked now both are 9mm at the reflector base

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everydaysurvivalgear wrote:
J-Dub74 wrote:
I talked to Simon about making an XPL-HI C8 a few months ago but I didn’t realize he was going forward with it yet. We are working on the driver thing too. Moon is coming as well as some other tweaks. Stay tuned. Cool

hey mate does Simon sell a XPl-HI centering ring for the c8?
I bought these XM-L to XP-G round centering rings from Kaidomain that fit my old Convoy C8 reflector perfectly. I don’t have a XP-L to try it on but isn’t the base the same size as the XP-G?
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^^^
The XP-L dome is too big and you will dedome the emitter when pulling it off, and with the XP-L HI you have to sand down the top part to reduce the artifacts. The L2 spacer is the best for the C8, if you receive the good ones.

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^^^
The XP-L dome is too big and you will dedome the emitter when pulling it off, and with the XP-L HI you have to sand down the top part to reduce the artifacts. The L2 spacer is the best for the C8, if you receive the good ones.

Makes sense…thanks for the info.
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I talked to Simon about making an XPL-HI C8 a few months ago but I didn’t realize he was going forward with it yet. We are working on the driver thing too. Moon is coming as well as some other tweaks. Stay tuned. Cool

Fast off-time memory would be great.

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J-Dub74 wrote:
I talked to Simon about making an XPL-HI C8 a few months ago but I didn’t realize he was going forward with it yet. We are working on the driver thing too. Moon is coming as well as some other tweaks. Stay tuned. Cool

Great, I .missed this post, just send him a message stressing he must upgrade the driver, maybe just as upgrade option as wiy the led choice he now has.
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Just a little note on this one. I asked Simon to add the AR glass option to this C8. He has updated the listing on his site. If you’re going to order one of these you can upgrade to AR coated glass for $1. Personally I thought he should just raise the price by a dollar and go AR glass across the board but he doesn’t think it will be that popular. Opinions vary and it not my decision. To be fair I know some people don’t like AR coated glass for one reason or another but at least now the option is there when purchasing directly from Simon. Cheers.

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J-Dub74 wrote:
Just a little note on this one. I asked Simon to add the AR glass option to this C8. He has updated the listing on his site. If you’re going to order one of these you can upgrade to AR coated glass for $1. Personally I thought he should just raise the price by a dollar and go AR glass across the board but he doesn’t think it will be that popular. Opinions vary and it not my decision. To be fair I know some people don’t like AR coated glass for one reason or another but at least now the option is there when purchasing directly from Simon. Cheers.

Great service. Now I’m just waiting for moonlight mode on the Convoys Smile

Gotta love the Swedish postal service – $9 added to every package from China…

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Looks like a great value for the price.

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Ok, so what to pick ?

XPL HI U6 or XPL HI V3

I don’t know a reason why HI U6 is higher price ?

Also is someone able to find some pressure switch for Convoy C8 that fits good ?

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