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Lowtech wrote:
Well kinda hard to do anything about the driver from BG side.

Isnt Astrolux a BG house brand?
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What diffrence would that make?

Only way for them to fix it is send out a new light.

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Lowtech wrote:
What diffrence would that make?

Only way for them to fix it is send out a new light.

Don’t think they’ll send out a new light. Maybe a solution is the roll out a S43 with all the fixes and a new UI, and give us a really good price.

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Or just a new, PROPER, head of the light… or at least a proper driver that those of us that know how could install… The light is basically unusable.

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The UI is clearly explained in the product details on the banggood site. I agree the UI is stupid but the UI was listed for us to look at before we ordered the light.
Not like they tricked us saying the UI would be any different

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I actually found the UI diagram really unclear. What’s a dotted line? What’s a solid line? The only thing that was clear is the long-press that says “long press” next to it.

I’m sure there are several people here who would be willing to consult on and beta test new light ideas just for a couple free samples. I’m one of them. The low efficiency of the driver, battery crushing problem and ridiculously bad UI could all have been easily avoided.

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I agree they could of explained the lines better.
There’s only one line going back to off. Which should be a long press not a short press.

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zak.wilson wrote:
I actually found the UI diagram really unclear. What’s a dotted line? What’s a solid line? The only thing that was clear is the long-press that says “long press” next to it.

I’m sure there are several people here who would be willing to consult on and beta test new light ideas just for a couple free samples. I’m one of them. The low efficiency of the driver, battery crushing problem and ridiculously bad UI could all have been easily avoided.


Same here… I even went back and looked at it and still dont quite understand it.

*Group1:Moon,Low,Med1,Med2,High1,High2,Turbo
+Moon,Turbo,Tactical strobe,Battery check,Bike flasher (without memory function,short press<0.5s)

Group2:Low,Med2,High1,High2 (with memory function,duble click the button,short press<0.5s)*

Double click and short press seems to change the mode groups, but not sure what the short press does, as I thought it would toggle memory but it doesnt. Then I thought it would be a way to change mode groups, but it doesnt…

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Box wrote:
The UI is clearly explained in the product details on the banggood site. I agree the UI is stupid but the UI was listed for us to look at before we ordered the light. Not like they tricked us saying the UI would be any different

Clearly is not how i would describe the way the UI is ‘explained’… and it is not quite consistent with the one we got.

Even the printed version that came with the light with additional instructions (if you have a microscope to read them) is not all that clear. I somehow managed to switch mode group by accidentally double clicking (how stupid is that?) and i had no clue as how to switch back… until i figured “configuration” must gave something to do with it… which seems obvious now. Facepalm

I’m still not sure how i find myself in disco hell once in a while after turbo… This light seems to have a life of itself, unless the cumulative effects of face-blasting-with-turbo has already dented my cognition. Evil

Could you really predict the actual fiasco just by looking at that diagram? I don’t think so. It could have worked if they did it right. And i guess that’s what we where all assuming they would do considering previous Astrolux lights. The problem is the translation from a physical tail switch to a side eswitch which is a first for them i believe.

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Fully agree with you about the double click to change mode is really stupid.
By looking at the diagram before I ordered the light. I could see that you could only turn off the light from turbo only. And you stuck with the stupid disco if you long press into turbo.
Kinda makes me more stupid knowing this and still getting the light Facepalm Guess I couldn’t help myself at the $25 price

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How do I remove the USB cover – do I need to take the light apart? This is a dumb question, but I would rather ask before I do something stupid.

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How do I remove the USB cover – do I need to take the light apart? This is a dumb question, but I would rather ask before I do something stupid.

I just pulled mine off, and reinstalled it with gentle prodding of a toothpick
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chooma wrote:
http://imgur.com/TIAYNvb
http://imgur.com/zolJexG
S42 works with S41 and Solarforce tailcaps with 18350 Purple Efest.

S41 works with S42 tailcap and becomes a twisty.

Thanks for the tip! Making my S41 into a twisty is awesome!

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now THAT is a small pocket rocket!, especially after I cut off that superfluous tripod mount and replace with a magnet.

Danm! Now I want an S42S tail cap for my S41S, just the tail cap!!!

Now with this mod, I can get 2 spare 18350’s in the bottom of the Manker holster!

And with the S41 tail cap on the S42, you can turn it off from any mode.

Sow’s ears are so sweet!

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A Short S41 with twisty is one of the reasons I bought the S42.

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Has anyone tried to replace the firmware? There are several options available with e-switch support. Apart from the battery issue this would make the light much more useful.

Easiest option would of course be to use the E14 II firmware. The hardware design seems similar enough for this to work. Maybe we could give it a try?

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If you want a shorter s41, use the tailcap from skilhunt h03.

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Roadie wrote:
Lowtech wrote:
What diffrence would that make?

Only way for them to fix it is send out a new light.

Don’t think they’ll send out a new light. Maybe a solution is the roll out a S43 with all the fixes and a new UI, and give us a really good price.

Thats what i said but thats the only way to fix the ui as some want.

Also a new head? That IS a new light..

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Just received mine and I actually happened to have a battery that fits. It’s tight, but the Enercig IMR18350 ( https://eu.nkon.nl/enerpower-18350-imr-limn-700mah-flat-top-battery.html ) does fit, if you screw on the tailcap carefully so the tailspring goes in to the recession it sits in.

The UI is SLOW and could use some improvement, but it’s no real showstopper for me (the UNsafe lockout sequence does scare me a bit though). The USB cover is a joke, falls out all the time. But the S42 does produce a lot of wonderful neutral high CRI light, unfortunately not for long since it gets HOT fast.

With the new battery tube and new USB cover BangGood/Astrolux could have a winner on their hands. Especially if they let ToyKeeper improve the UI. A better driver with temperature controlled stepdown would also be nice.

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Just received the S42…DOA
No problem fitting a flat unprotected 18350….just won’t work….disappointed to say the least.

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Lamont56 wrote:
Just received the S42…DOA No problem fitting a flat unprotected 18350….just won’t work….disappointed to say the least.

that’s the same problem everyone has…the tailcap is not screwed down all the way to make the connection to the body. If you have a 18650 tube, give it a try. if not, just wait for the new tube.

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…or try to wrap a copper wire inside the tail cap. That will allow the tube to connect without screwing it all the way.

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patmurris wrote:
...or try to wrap a copper wire inside the tail cap. That will allow the tube to connect without screwing it all the way.

 

thats what i did for testing...

 

bent a copper wire around a 18650 cell (1 1/2 turns)
one cut to get a split ring 

perfect!

 

but please ONLY use in the tailcap!

 

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Got my S42 the other day. An cannibalized A6 battery tube made the light work with a flat top unprotected 30Q cell. Don’t have any little cells so didn’t even need to try this. Wow, the UI truly is abominable. Dotted or solid lines on a diagram. It doesn’t matter. Major fail in my opinion. Glad the tail twist out works. Sorry Dragon Breath!
So, why do we even have to beg for replacement parts, proper length battery tube and functional USB cover, when BG knows exactly who they sent these to? Totally stupid. And did I mention that the UI is abominable? Yes I did already, sorry. Martin, you got your points. Help us out!

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Keepitsharp wrote:
So, why do we even have to beg for replacement parts, proper length battery tube and functional USB cover, when BG knows exactly who they sent these to?

That puzzles me too, doing it this way only means more work in total for BG and less happy customers.

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Nothing happy, since apart from everything, it is horrible to use, almost impossible, and heats more than 80 degrees.

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betcha it has to do with like the rebate thing
like maybe half just won’t bother…. Tired

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7pot wrote:
Has anyone tried to replace the firmware? There are several options available with e-switch support. Apart from the battery issue this would make the light much more useful.

Easiest option would of course be to use the E14 II firmware. The hardware design seems similar enough for this to work. Maybe we could give it a try?

Regards
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+1 is this even possible? Even if it is a very simple limited UI?? Anybody???

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Keepitsharp wrote:
Got my S42 the other day. An cannibalized A6 battery tube made the light work with a flat top unprotected 30Q cell. Don't have any little cells so didn't even need to try this. Wow, the UI truly is abominable. Dotted or solid lines on a diagram. It doesn't matter. Major fail in my opinion. Glad the tail twist out works. Sorry Dragon Breath! So, why do we even have to beg for replacement parts, proper length battery tube and functional USB cover, when BG knows exactly who they sent these to? Totally stupid. And did I mention that the UI is abominable? Yes I did already, sorry. Martin, you got your points. Help us out!

 

i asked bg to “just send the new parts“ but i was told the system does not work that way Sad

 

for the UI we all knew its a new development

and we hoped Astrolux will do a good job

... but.... 

well, lets say they need at least one more generation Wink

 

i 100% can understand when one is disappointed - so send it back then!

why be angry and agressive?

some posts might qualify to earn a rude point... Sad

 

if you buy a dacia you hope to get a Renault - but are you mad that you did not get a merc?

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Well, the Nichia with CRI 90 are Mercedes parts.
I fear if they do a S42 2Gen, they screw it up again.
I would rather have a S42 BLF-Edition were the UI is good and tested by the forum.

Astrolux / Banggood needs an eSwitch firmware anyway for future lamps. So this could be a starting point like the A6 driver was.

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