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Bruno28 wrote:

The s42 has a very blue tint on the XPG3.

Mine too…

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Bruno28 wrote:
My S42 finally arrived after a long wait.

The light looks very nice. But not as bright as the S41. The s42 has a very blue tint on the XPG3. The S42 is more bloody than the S41. Im thinking of changing the led from the S41 into the S42 to get a better tint.

Also the USB cover does not stay still. And yes I ruined the rear end of my Keeppower 18650 Sad the cell is 34.3mm)


Why is it bloody?

Words can be broken,
so can bones.

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Blue and floody….I think…

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autocorrect….meant to say FLOODY.

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Bruno28 wrote:
The s42 has a very blue tint on the XPG3…. Im thinking of changing the led from the S41 into the S42 to get a better tint.

You care about tint and you went with Cree emitters? Were you just prioritizing brightness?

You could get these and get nicer tint with no visually-detectable effect on brightness. You can order them mounted on this MCPCB if you don’t want to reflow yourself. Personally, I’d go with higher CRI over a higher flux bin in the same emitter every time; human perception of brightness is not linear, and a 25% difference is right on the edge of perceptible.

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zak.wilson wrote:
Bruno28 wrote:
The s42 has a very blue tint on the XPG3…. Im thinking of changing the led from the S41 into the S42 to get a better tint.

You care about tint and you went with Cree emitters? Were you just prioritizing brightness?

You could get these and get nicer tint with no visually-detectable effect on brightness. You can order them mounted on this MCPCB if you don’t want to reflow yourself. Personally, I’d go with higher CRI over a higher flux bin in the same emitter every time; human perception of brightness is not linear, and a 25% difference is right on the edge of perceptible.

High CRI actually helps MORE than a few extra lumens in helping out with seeing details. Once you’ve tried it in reality and compared with low CRI, I guarantee that you will prioritize high CRI over lumens every time.

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RollerBoySE wrote:
High CRI actually helps MORE than a few extra lumens in helping out with seeing details. Once you’ve tried it in reality and compared with low CRI, I guarantee that you will prioritize high CRI over lumens every time.

I agree. It would take a 100% difference in lumens, a specialized application or some other characteristic different between models before I’d consider a low-CRI model over high-CRI. Partial exception for the 80 CRI 219C in 5000K, which has a nicer looking tint than the 90 CRI 5000K from the last group buy; I have yet to see the 90 CRI 5000K in the S42.

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So what’s the exact LED used in the S42 nichia version?

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Tom E wrote:
…Still, 1,500 lumens from a quad taking 10.6A doesn’t make sense either – there’s some major loss’s goin on somewhere.

If i followed correctly the two S42 threads and the various comments… it appears:

  • The battery tube is too short and they didn’t even try the light before putting it light on sale
  • The USB cover pops out if you just look at it
  • The head design can’t handle the heat on turbo
  • The driver’s UI is one of the worst in flashlight history
  • The driver is VERY inefficient in less then turbo modes thus killing the already modest runtime on 18350
  • The optics produces way more artifacts then the S41

Did i miss something?

Sorry for ranting, but this seems quite extraordinary. How can you go wrong that much? Facepalm

Did someone test the USB charging…?

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The first 3 is bout right, the last 3 I'm not personally sure of - still not sure if the efficiency is that that bad or not - UI has probs, but dunno bout the worse ever - it's usable, and can't vouch for the artifacts. My S41 was an early one, and the MCPCB is definitely different than later S41's and even the S42.

Of course bout the head design handling the heat, there's basically no tube light that has a head design that can handle high amp heat - it's all a matter of what you want and what risks you are willing to take. Perfect temp regulation is maybe what you want because it will give you turbo output, though briefly.

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Edness wrote:
So what’s the exact LED used in the S42 nichia version?

Based on Maukka’s test, we can be sure it’s a 219C, 5000K, R9050 (90+ CRI, 50+ R9). That doesn’t tell us what the exact tint bin is; it’s probably sm507, as tighter binning costs more and this light is very inexpensive with four of them, nor the flux bin, but it’s probably not the highest available (that being D240, last I checked).

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Well my s41 has a great beam profile and tint. The s41ss not so much. Thought the s42 would have been more like the s41. And my s41 was xpg3.

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Replacement parts:- Still on Back Order, how long is this going to take!

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mudguts wrote:
Replacement parts:- Still on Back Order, how long is this going to take!

customer service said:

Dear Alex ,

Thanks for your email.

For your order 00000000 we check the item Astrolux S42 USB Cover out of stock and update will restock around 2017-07-17 .

May I ask if you would like to wait to restock ?

Hope your early reply.

Best regards,

Flora

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Hi

There email said last week to me

Bo4ka wrote:
mudguts wrote:
Replacement parts:- Still on Back Order, how long is this going to take!

customer service said:

Dear Alex ,

Thanks for your email.

For your order 00000000 we check the item Astrolux S42 USB Cover out of stock and update will restock around 2017-07-17 .

May I ask if you would like to wait to restock ?

Hope your early reply.

Best regards,

Flora

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In the hopes of not sounding too ignorant, I apologize if I come across that way. Does the S42 with the 18650 tube work correctly and if it does are there certain batteries one should or shouldn’t use?
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About the ugly beam:

the S42 has the same ‘improved’ optic mounting as the fixed heads of the S41S: a rim protruding on the inside of the head. That rim was too high up in the S41S and seems even higher in the S42, causing the optics to sit too far from the leds. So what should be a decent hotspot is a wide uneven blur.

A fix could be grinding away some off the top of that rim with a Dremel to sink the optic a bit, I will try that for the S42 one of these days.

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Guns712 wrote:
In the hopes of not sounding too ignorant, I apologize if I come across that way. Does the S42 with the 18650 tube work correctly and if it does are there certain batteries one should or shouldn’t use?

I just received the A6_BLF/S41/S42 18650 tube from BG for my S42. Screwed it to the S42 and inserted an unprotected flat Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mAh (Green) in it. It works perfectly (I had previously faced big issues trying to use the original A6_BLF tube with the S42). Did not try any 18350. And that’s only my experience, don’t know about others …
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patmurris wrote:
Tom E wrote:
…Still, 1,500 lumens from a quad taking 10.6A doesn’t make sense either – there’s some major loss’s goin on somewhere.

If i followed correctly the two S42 threads and the various comments… it appears:

  • The battery tube is too short and they didn’t even try the light before putting it light on sale
  • The USB cover pops out if you just look at it
  • The head design can’t handle the heat on turbo
  • The driver’s UI is one of the worst in flashlight history
  • The driver is VERY inefficient in less then turbo modes thus killing the already modest runtime on 18350
  • The optics produces way more artifacts then the S41

Did i miss something?

Sorry for ranting, but this seems quite extraordinary. How can you go wrong that much? Facepalm

Did someone test the USB charging…?

Good List!

I’d add button is CLUNKY and not Crisp and the optics not seated at correct height.

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Lips wrote:
patmurris wrote:
Tom E wrote:
…Still, 1,500 lumens from a quad taking 10.6A doesn’t make sense either – there’s some major loss’s goin on somewhere.

If i followed correctly the two S42 threads and the various comments… it appears:

  • The battery tube is too short and they didn’t even try the light before putting it light on sale
  • The USB cover pops out if you just look at it
  • The head design can’t handle the heat on turbo
  • The driver’s UI is one of the worst in flashlight history
  • The driver is VERY inefficient in less then turbo modes thus killing the already modest runtime on 18350
  • The optics produces way more artifacts then the S41

Did i miss something?

Sorry for ranting, but this seems quite extraordinary. How can you go wrong that much? Facepalm

Did someone test the USB charging…?

Good List!

I’d add button is CLUNKY and not Crisp and the optics not seated at correct height.

All in all: the S42 is a BUDGET S41

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Picked mine up from the post office (or rather a tabacco store with a postal corner) today (got a belated notification).

Everything everyone wrote is true. Sad

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On Jun 23, the email to me said in part:

Since the USB cover is redesigning now, they would be in stock and shipped next week, please kindly wait for it.

I hope I don’t have to wait until July 17 just to get it shipped…

Good thing paypal allows disputes for 180 days. I’m seriously considering initiating a dispute over this horrid mess. I haven’t been able to test the item to see if it even works. I’m not keen on damaging a battery just to test it. I’m not doing any mods and I don’t have extra battery tubes. This was presented as a complete, usable, functioning product. Obviously it is not. Lesson learned…

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Got my two S42 Nichia today.
First impressions: Bluish tint compare to my 219B, artifacts, usb cover falls out, strange UI. Works with my Vappower IMR 18350, no dent.
No real use for as it is on daily basis. Perfect for the glove box in the car with its micro usb charge and glass breaker.

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Got mine today. Wow the UI is horrible. The light itself is beautiful but the UI and the messed up optics makes it a fiasco.

Gotta love the Swedish postal service – $9 added to every package from China…

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Has anyone received the replacement tube?
While waiting for my tube I added a spacer in the tail. O ring is exposed but at least the light works.

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Got mine today, as expected the tube was to small, had to use my 18650 tube to get it to work, maby with S2 tail switch as an isolation.

the delay between button presses and light change gets me the most i think, not sure why, just erks me.

just received an email from bangingGood, offering a 16% coupon for Astrolux, only good for a month as consolation.

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removing the driver spring and swapping the tailcap spring for a thinner and more collapsable one solves the problem.

However, it’s still a horrible flashlight

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I also got the 16% code. All in all this light has been such an anti-climax. It could have been superb,instead it’s a mess. As a previous poster said, mine will probably end up as a car torch. I think BG could have given better compensation than a derisory 16% code to be honest. Very underwhelming.

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Guns712 wrote:
In the hopes of not sounding too ignorant, I apologize if I come across that way. Does the S42 with the 18650 tube work correctly and if it does are there certain batteries one should or shouldn’t use?

i got the tube also and its doesnt work with most of my batteries

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have my Stainless 18650 tube from a s41s and the s42 tail-cap with the steel spike attached on at the mo, interesting look. Cool

also just blinded myself trying to turn it off in moon mode, dicky UI.

Edit: an unprotected 18650, nothing over 65mm

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