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18350 recommendation

Hi there, I have a BLF GT mini on the way and it should come with the 18350 tube also. Could you recommend some good 18350 cells for this flashlight? Can I use them in my Emisar D4 (18350 tube) too?
I found some unprotected Keeppower, but it’s only 750 mAh…. I suggest, in Emisar D4 only unprotected 18350 cells will work.
Keeppower
or these?
Shockli

Thank you!

My current:
Fenix HM65R, Nitecore TIP CRI, Nitecore NU35, Skilhunt H03, Skilhunt H03 RC, Emisar D4V2 (SST20), Emisar D4V2 (XP-L HI V3 3A), Emisar D1 (XP-L HI V2 3A), Emisar D4S (XP-L HI V2 3A), Lumintop GT MINI, Lumintop B01, Jetbeam Mini ONE

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Instead of the Keeppower 750mAh, take a look at these: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57802
The Keeppower UH1835P 1100mAh/1200mAh are equivalent to the famous Aspire 1100mAh cells, the best high-drain IMR 18350s.
The Shockli is also on the top, so you can’t go wrong with it!

You can compare both cells performance here, on HKJ comparator: https://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/CommonSmallcomparator.php

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Thank you for the links – great info. Wow, almost identical performance of these two Thumbs Up

My current:
Fenix HM65R, Nitecore TIP CRI, Nitecore NU35, Skilhunt H03, Skilhunt H03 RC, Emisar D4V2 (SST20), Emisar D4V2 (XP-L HI V3 3A), Emisar D1 (XP-L HI V2 3A), Emisar D4S (XP-L HI V2 3A), Lumintop GT MINI, Lumintop B01, Jetbeam Mini ONE

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mic6 wrote:
Thank you for the links – great info. Wow, almost identical performance of these two Thumbs Up

Forgot to mention the Vapcell INR18350: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/59168
It is also equivalente to the above mentioned Wink

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Related: Vapcell has changed what cell they use for their 10A 1100mAh 18350, without a wrap change @ E-CigaretteForum

The reason for the newer cells' loss of performance is either the manufacturer of the Aspire cells (Yongde Lixin Energy) cut back on production costs of their cells due to realizing they were not that liked by vapers, or a new manufacturer popped up with a different cell. There's a noticeable difference in the discharge curve profile of both the Shockli 18350 1150mAh and BestFire IMR18350 1500mAh versus the older AspireKeepPower and Vapcell cells.

Shockli is the cheapest of the known brands but there's a newer player according to my intuition: KingWei 18350 1000mAh. Will buy and try these cells as soon as possible in the name of the light. Also available in 4-packs and 100-packs.

To finish this suffice to say I am not willing to pay cells at the price of nicotine or any other vice stuff (cough Vapcell cough).

 

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I ordered Shockli, thanks to all for the info! Vapcell is available in stores where I live, maybe I will try it in the future.

My current:
Fenix HM65R, Nitecore TIP CRI, Nitecore NU35, Skilhunt H03, Skilhunt H03 RC, Emisar D4V2 (SST20), Emisar D4V2 (XP-L HI V3 3A), Emisar D1 (XP-L HI V2 3A), Emisar D4S (XP-L HI V2 3A), Lumintop GT MINI, Lumintop B01, Jetbeam Mini ONE

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I am also looking for a 18350 battery as a part of a gift with either Astrolux S41S or S42S.

What supplier do you guys recommend that ships to USA?

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sochi111 wrote:
I am also looking for a 18350 battery as a part of a gift with either Astrolux S41S or S42S.

What supplier do you guys recommend that ships to USA?

Please go for the s41 much better light.

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Liionwholesale sells the vapcell 18350

Thanks brother

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Geuzzz wrote:
sochi111 wrote:
I am also looking for a 18350 battery as a part of a gift with either Astrolux S41S or S42S.

What supplier do you guys recommend that ships to USA?

Please go for the s41 much better light.

Awesome, thanks for letting me know.

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Just curious, did someone here followed my above advice and made a bet with the KingWei 18350 1000mAh cells?

I am asking because there's someone else besides me in the sale link Transaction History, some W*** from the US. 

 

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^^^^ I finally looked at your link to the KingWei cells, pretty good price for 10 of them. Hope they are as advertised, although I did not see a peak current advertised, maybe I missed it.

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Aaah sbslider! LOL

No current rating is given, just a “High discharge performance” statement in the wrap. My right astral ear was beeping when I found them. There's really no way to lose here because:

 

The 1000+mAh 18350 cell being manufactured right now has been tested by HKJ under BestFire and Shockli wraps:

 

The KingWeis look the same.

The shape of their discharge curves match closely, with some minor differences attributable to binning or cell grade:

 

Average capacity at 0.2A (0.2C) down to 2.8V was 1060mAh for the Shockli cells and 1008 for the BestFire.

 

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Thanks for the data! ^^^^^

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Even Vapcell was caught “red-handed” and they had to admit and/or realize the cell they were rewrapping was changed.
Caught red-handed? Yes. Realized? Yes. But I do not see them admitting to anything, at least not in the thread you linked to. Smile

Shame, cause for a moment they had me believe they were a reputable outfit.

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That's why I said “and/or” Pete7874. Wink

You could ask vapcell Dennis… wait! It seems like vapcell Dennis' posts have been removed from the forum. I was checking to see if I could find them, but no dice. Examples:

  • Vapcell INR18350 1100mAh retested by Mooch: shenanigans again.
  • There was a thread titled “Tesla sanyo NCR21700A 5000mah amazing power beat samsung 21700 48G” back in the day (November - December of 2018). vapcell Dennis started it with a bunch of graphs of their own cell testing versus others related in the same category from the main manufacturers. I have update alerts from that thread in my email. The thread has been removed. Now I understand why, all of a sudden, I noticed a steep drop in my post count weeks ago. 

 

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Barkuti wrote:

You could ask vapcell Dennis… wait! It seems like vapcell Dennis‘ posts have been removed from the forum.


Same with user Feyate , another Vapcell employee. Pretty sure this user had a lot more posts than just 2.
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Wellp, this sort of information removal attitude does not speak well of them and Vapcell. I was looking for a brief statement made by vapcell Dennis concerning the 18350 issue. This vapcell 14500 1000mAh cell thread is all that remains from Dennis.

I'll refrain from being judgmental. 

 

Cheers Smile 

 

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Barkuti wrote:

Wellp, this sort of information removal attitude does not speak well of them and Vapcell.


I thought it was sb (BLF admin) who removed their posts. Maybe they didn’t pay their sponsor dues? But then why not remove their user profiles completely?
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Vapcell had 4 accounts (that I know) and posted commercial posts outside commercial sellers spot and also made many topics in commercial sellers spot.
That is against BLF rules to sb removed that.

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mic6 wrote:
I ordered Shockli, thanks to all for the info! Vapcell is available in stores where I live, maybe I will try it in the future.

Thanks Big Smile

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Barkuti wrote:

Aaah sbslider! LOL


No current rating is given, just a “High discharge performance” statement in the wrap. My right astral ear was beeping when I found them. There’s really no way to lose here because:



 


The 1000+mAh 18350 cell being manufactured right now has been tested by HKJ under BestFire and Shockli wraps:


 





The KingWeis look the same.


The shape of their discharge curves match closely, with some minor differences attributable to binning or cell grade:


 



Average capacity at 0.2A (0.2C) down to 2.8V was 1060mAh for the Shockli cells and 1008 for the BestFire.


 


yeah,Vapcell new version 1100mah 9A

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Barkuti wrote:

That’s why I said “and/or” Pete7874. Wink


You could ask vapcell Dennis… wait! It seems like vapcell Dennis‘ posts have been removed from the forum. I was checking to see if I could find them, but no dice. Examples:



  • Vapcell INR18350 1100mAh retested by Mooch: shenanigans again.

  • There was a thread titled “Tesla sanyo NCR21700A 5000mah amazing power beat samsung 21700 48G” back in the day (November – December of 2018). vapcell Dennis started it with a bunch of graphs of their own cell testing versus others related in the same category from the main manufacturers. I have update alerts from that thread in my email. The thread has been removed. Now I understand why, all of a sudden, I noticed a steep drop in my post count weeks ago. 


 


Cheers 


Fri, 02/22/2019 – 17:17

Many posts were deleted because they violated the rules of the forum. Facepalm

But I can apply for recovery. I can’t find links of some posts.

So if anyone knows the link, please let me know. Thank you. Blushing

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Can anyone recommend a place to buy 2 pieces of Keeppower 18350 1100mAh with affordable shipping to US.

Sofar it looks to me like it costs $18-$20 with shipping.
BG is maybe $15 but still ridiculous and have a bad rep.

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Pete7874 wrote:
Barkuti wrote:
Even Vapcell was caught “red-handed” and they had to admit and/or realize the cell they were rewrapping was changed.
Caught red-handed? Yes. Realized? Yes. But I do not see them admitting to anything, at least not in the thread you linked to. Smile

Shame, cause for a moment they had me believe they were a reputable outfit.

Vapcell is actually a reputable company from my experience and I own a bunch of different Vapcell cells. For example I tested the Vapcell 18350 cells (probably older version) at 1156/1155/1019/1149/1126 mah. I was going to retest the 1,019mah unit becaues it might be a fluke with my Xtar Dragon but they got mixed up so I didn’t want to retest everything. The 2800mah Vapcell VTC5D measures 2855/2775/2842/2866 and pushes my FET flashlights harder than the VTC6. The Vapcell 3000mah VTC6A measures 2986/2983 mah and also pushes harder than my geniune VTC6. The Vapcell 4000mah 40T measures 4038 mah and pushes the several Fireflies E07 I have to near 30T levels as confirmed with my TA lumen sphere.

It is unfortunate that the recent batch of Vapcell 18350 does not perform the same as the older batches, but it is beyond Vapcell’s control if their supplier changes the formula without letting Vapcell know. I give Vapcell the benefit of the doubt because they are well aware that there are plenty of forum members that have the capability to test their cells and that would be a big risk to lose reputation over maybe a couple pennies in savings. Also I like how Vapcell voluntarily send so many of their cells to HKJ and Mooch for testing, which I think is extremely beneficial to the community.

Last but not least, please remember Vapcell does not manufacture cells. They simply rewrap cells. If not for rewrap companies, many of these cells would not be available to the average consumer because they are not available for purchase in small quantities. Among the rewrappers, Vapcell seems to be one of the more knowledgeable and reliable ones.

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Many posts were deleted because they violated the rules of the forum. Facepalm

But I can apply for recovery. I can’t find links of some posts.

So if anyone knows the link, please let me know. Thank you. Blushing

I think it would be very helpful to members here if your deleted posts can be recovered because many of your posts contain useful technical information.

Btw, I was looking for you for a month already. Didn’t get any email response from the email shown on your website after multiple emails sent. Is admin@szfyte.com even correct?

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SKV89 wrote:
Pete7874 wrote:
Barkuti wrote:
Even Vapcell was caught “red-handed” and they had to admit and/or realize the cell they were rewrapping was changed.
Caught red-handed? Yes. Realized? Yes. But I do not see them admitting to anything, at least not in the thread you linked to. Smile

Shame, cause for a moment they had me believe they were a reputable outfit.

Vapcell is actually a reputable company from my experience and I own a bunch of different Vapcell cells. For example I tested the Vapcell 18350 cells (probably older version) at 1156/1155/1019/1149/1126 mah. I was going to retest the 1,019mah unit becaues it might be a fluke with my Xtar Dragon but they got mixed up so I didn’t want to retest everything. The 2800mah Vapcell VTC5D measures 2855/2775/2842/2866 and pushes my FET flashlights harder than the VTC6. The Vapcell 3000mah VTC6A measures 2986/2983 mah and also pushes harder than my geniune VTC6. The Vapcell 4000mah 40T measures 4038 mah and pushes the several Fireflies E07 I have to near 30T levels as confirmed with my TA lumen sphere.

It is unfortunate that the recent batch of Vapcell 18350 does not perform the same as the older batches, but it is beyond Vapcell’s control if their supplier changes the formula without letting Vapcell know. I give Vapcell the benefit of the doubt because they are well aware that there are plenty of forum members that have the capability to test their cells and that would be a big risk to lose reputation over maybe a couple pennies in savings. Also I like how Vapcell voluntarily send so many of their cells to HKJ and Mooch for testing, which I think is extremely beneficial to the community.

Last but not least, please remember Vapcell does not manufacture cells. They simply rewrap cells. If not for rewrap companies, many of these cells would not be available to the average consumer because they are not available for purchase in small quantities. Among the rewrappers, Vapcell seems to be one of the more knowledgeable and reliable ones.

Thank you very much for your support for vapcell

We try our best to provide the best quality batteries for our customers. Maybe we will encounter many difficulties. We will try our best to solve them.

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SKV89 wrote:
vapcell Dennis wrote:

Many posts were deleted because they violated the rules of the forum. Facepalm

But I can apply for recovery. I can’t find links of some posts.

So if anyone knows the link, please let me know. Thank you. Blushing

I think it would be very helpful to members here if your deleted posts can be recovered because many of your posts contain useful technical information.

Btw, I was looking for you for a month already. Didn’t get any email response from the email shown on your website after multiple emails sent. Is admin@szfyte.com even correct?

Our Sales Manager hasn’t logged in for a long time. The forum administrator sent her a warning message. She didn’t respond.

Then all accounts were blacklisted

I’ll contact the forum administrator and we’ll learn the rules of the forum and apply for the resumption of some posts.

Contact me later, I will always be online.

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Finally back Dennis? In any case it’s nice that you’re back, I never really why the Administrators had blocked you, whatever their reasons could not justify a blocking of your account, this is my opinion.

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Finally back Dennis? In any case it’s nice that you’re back, I never really why the Administrators had blocked you, whatever their reasons could not justify a blocking of your account, this is my opinion.

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