[Preview] EDC18 by Lumintop - FIRST LOOK of a Anduril sideswitch EDC flashlight

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[Preview] EDC18 by Lumintop - FIRST LOOK of a Anduril sideswitch EDC flashlight

Hello my dear friends!

Today i preview the Lumintop EDC18 for you - a 18650 powered sideswitch flashlight, driven by toykeepers great Anduril UI.

A reverseable deep carry clip, the tail magnet and the illuminated switch are big improvements of the FW3A idea while keeping the good points of it.




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Unfortunately the LUMINTOP EDC18 that was reviewed by me here is different in another point than those mentioned in my review!

THE FINAL BATTERYTUBE IS SHORTER THUS THE EDC18 CANNOT BE OPERATED WITH PROTECTED CELLS!

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We’re all clamoring for dimensions, or do I have to watch the video…

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Thanks for the video. Finally, something I can give my partner without worrying so much. She wants my Anduril lights because of candlelight mode but I can’t trust her with unprotected cells. Hopefully it will come in different colors in the future.

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roguesoul wrote:
We're all clamoring for dimensions, or do I have to watch the video...


~27mm head
25mm tail
98mm length

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Sept 9th! Kind of wish it came with a warm white emitter. My FW3A with Cree XP-L HI 7A 3300K is so good.

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I can not understand how a spring friction fit clip is an improvement over one that is attached to the body that can not come off on its own?

I am carrying the FW3A over the D4V2 just because of the clip.

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avservice wrote:
I can not understand how a spring friction fit clip is an improvement over one that is attached to the body that can not come off on its own?

I am carrying the FW3A over the D4V2 just because of the clip.


Two things, it is reversible and it is deep carry.

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Is the magnet removable and is there a hole to attach a lanyard?

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middle age man wrote:
Is the magnet removable and is there a hole to attach a lanyard?

Max has said the magnet and tail pcb are glued into place.

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Can you check if this diffuser fits on FW3A?

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it does not Sad

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JasonWW wrote:
avservice wrote:
I can not understand how a spring friction fit clip is an improvement over one that is attached to the body that can not come off on its own?

I am carrying the FW3A over the D4V2 just because of the clip.


Two things, it is reversible and it is deep carry.

I got that part but what I meant to convey is that I have never had one of those clips that would not unclip without my permission.

So I try to avoid them at all cost.

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avservice wrote:

I got that part but what I meant to convey is that I have never had one of those clips that would not unclip without my permission.

So I try to avoid them at all cost.


I’ve only had that happen when I carry the light on the outside of my pocket. You can take a weak clip and bend it so it holds on to the body tighter. Nowadays my clips are mainly just to prevent it from rolling away. Lol

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Lumintop is LAZY.
Why did they use the driver design from fw3a? It has been designed for use with tail switch flashlights.
By designing a normal driver they could improve heat dissipation from AMCs.

edit.
At the beginning I was interested, but now when I look at this outlier button I dunno that I want this light…
Martin, how hard is this button? Can you compare to something?

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harder than Emisar D4

 

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Chatika vas Paus wrote:
Lumintop is LAZY.
Why did they use the driver design from fw3a? It has been designed for use with tail switch flashlights.
By designing a normal driver they could improve heat dissipation from AMCs.


Look closer, it is designed differently. There is no inner ring. They kept the same FET+7+1 architecture and software because it works just fine. I don’t think there is a problem with AMC’s getting hot. They can handle over 250°C during reflow. I have not heard of heat being any kind of issue. Have you seen reports of heat being a problem for the AMC’s?

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I’ve seen nothing anywhere that answers the following:
1. Is the side switch illuminated?
If so,
2. Can the side switch be controlled by Anduril?
3. Is the side switch only one color LED, or is it multi color?
4. Can the side switch be used as a locator?

Anyone know the answers to these questions?

Thanks!

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jimahi wrote:
I’ve seen nothing anywhere that answers the following:
1. Is the side switch illuminated?
If so,
2. Can the side switch be controlled by Anduril?
3. Is the side switch only one color LED, or is it multi color?
4. Can the side switch be used as a locator?

Anyone know the answers to these questions?

Thanks!


1 yes
2 yes (seems possible, have to wait for confirmation)
3 single
4 it stays on, so yes.

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Great, thanks!

I felt kind of dumb asking the question since it seems like such an obvious bit of information that would be posted on the product page or otherwise readily available.

Just curious so I know where to look next time before I ask… where did you find that info?

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@M4D M4X

Can you please weigh the EDC18 when you get a chance?

I feel the 53g spec on Banggood is incorrect, copied over from the FW3A specs.

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jimahi wrote:
Great, thanks!

I felt kind of dumb asking the question since it seems like such an obvious bit of information that would be posted on the product page or otherwise readily available.

Just curious so I know where to look next time before I ask… where did you find that info?


I am familiar with the pinouts on the Attiny85 and the Anduril code.

I did not find this info about the EDC18, but I can deduce it based on the hardware.

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Johm wrote:
@M4D M4X Can you please weigh the EDC18 when you get a chance? I feel the 53g spec on Banggood is incorrect, copied over from the FW3A specs.


my kitchen weight gives me 75g (prototype)

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jimahi wrote:
I've seen nothing anywhere that answers the following: 1. Is the side switch illuminated? If so, 2. Can the side switch be controlled by Anduril? 3. Is the side switch only one color LED, or is it multi color? 4. Can the side switch be used as a locator? Anyone know the answers to these questions? Thanks!


have you watched my video?

1. yes
2. i am not sure 
3. yes (green bunny)
4. its on in "standby" so: yes

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M4D M4X wrote:

jimahi wrote:
I’ve seen nothing anywhere that answers the following: 1. Is the side switch illuminated? If so, 2. Can the side switch be controlled by Anduril? 3. Is the side switch only one color LED, or is it multi color? 4. Can the side switch be used as a locator? Anyone know the answers to these questions? Thanks!


have you watched my video?

1. yes
2. i am not sure 
3. yes (green bunny)
4. its on in “standby” so: yes

Concerning #2, Anduril can certainly control the switch light with options like off, dim, bright and blinking. We see this with other side switch lights using the same driver parts and Anduril. I see no reason why Toykeeper would disable this function in Anduril. There is no reason to. I have to assume it is controllable. (Better to assume it’s not controllable, waiting for confirmation)

I don’t know if your prototype can do it, but try this. From Off, do 7 fast clicks and see if the switch light changes. To cycle to the next option, repeat with 7 fast clicks.

Here is the newest Anduril cheat sheet.

You can try the color change as well, but I doubt they installed multi colored LEDs for the switch. 7H means 7 fast clicks and Hold the button on the last click (iirc).

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Got in on the preorder thanks. Not that I need another light Big Smile

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richbuff said “Sometimes, I feel depressed about my spirit having been cast down to the hostile surface of this one-star planet, without my asking God first, and without God asking me first. I have found that a brief burst of maximum light from what is currently the smallest size flashlight per power makes it all ok/fine for a while, until the next time I feel the need to repeat.”

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I think the bunny is wired to the battery 

it's not controlled by Anduril

Fireflies also had only 2 of 4 leds in the switch controlled by the UI

 

 

(also my sample only has one Lockout brightness) 

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So what did I preorder?

Chris

richbuff said “Sometimes, I feel depressed about my spirit having been cast down to the hostile surface of this one-star planet, without my asking God first, and without God asking me first. I have found that a brief burst of maximum light from what is currently the smallest size flashlight per power makes it all ok/fine for a while, until the next time I feel the need to repeat.”

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M4D M4X wrote:

jimahi wrote:
I’ve seen nothing anywhere that answers the following: 1. Is the side switch illuminated? If so, 2. Can the side switch be controlled by Anduril? 3. Is the side switch only one color LED, or is it multi color? 4. Can the side switch be used as a locator? Anyone know the answers to these questions? Thanks!


have you watched my video?

1. yes
2. i am not sure 
3. yes (green bunny)
4. its on in “standby” so: yes

Yes, I did watch the video M4D M4X. Thanks for putting that video together. However, it didn’t cover what the switch light actually did. It looked like it was illuminated.

Sounds like there is still some confusion on exactly how the illuminated switch function works.

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i hope i get one of the first sale version lights to clear all questions

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I got in on the preorder! Thanks for the code!

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