Smaller SBT-90.2 light with Anduril - Anything on the horizon?

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Smaller SBT-90.2 light with Anduril - Anything on the horizon?

The Amutorch XT45 and the Nightwatch NI40 seem to have a good form factor and great beam for an easy carry SBT 90.2 light but considering the LED premium I would really prefer a side button, Anduril light of similar size.

Anyone heard of anything?

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Noctigon K1 with SBT90 or Astrolux FT03s
I would recommend the Noctigon, better quality.

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FW21 Pro X9L will have anduril but it’s a rear switch.

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Thanks TH558, that FW21 Pro X9L looks really nice, the only place I could find an image is on M4D M4X FB site.

FW21 Pro X9L

That light looks to be a great wide beam pocket thrower, I might think about buying one even with the rear switch. It’s near EDC size so it might be interesting to carry it for multi purpose with a circle of DC-fix on the lens with a small tab for easy removal and application.

If nothing comes out soon with a SBT-90.2 and a side switch near that size then the X9L looks like the ticket.

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Th558 wrote:
FW21 Pro X9L will have anduril but it’s a rear switch.
Any idea when it’s coming out? Searched around and couldn’t find anything.
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xevious wrote:
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FW21 Pro X9L will have anduril but it’s a rear switch.
Any idea when it’s coming out? Searched around and couldn’t find anything.
Have no idea. Found it on neals page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/359846644428368/permalink/990939887985704/
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xevious wrote:
Th558 wrote:
FW21 Pro X9L will have anduril but it’s a rear switch.
Any idea when it’s coming out? Searched around and couldn’t find anything.

just ordered the fw21 pro, cannot wit for this. I do not have a sbt90 light yet.

Although…. Skylumen has the thrunite t10 14500 light made into a sbt90 light. I have the original 500lm t10, and REALLY want Vin’s hotrodded version, but the price is… a little sharp.. still looks awesome though. it pushes 2300lm too! if only for a blink of an eye

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Neals Gadgets has the Lumintop X9L for sale.

Had to buy it – it looks awesome!

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Wanted ro say Lumintop X9L but when i saw price of 109$ i’ve changed my mind.

better buy Noctigon KR1 and SBT90.2 and merge them.

At least you will have the best driver for this emitter, CC over FET

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Vinh (Skylumen) has a winner: Noctigon KR1vn SBT-90.2, 5000 lm and 110 kcd!

https://skylumen.com/products/noctigon-kr1vn-18650-highest-output-thrower-r

It has Anduril, it even comes with a 18350 tube, and ice blue trit in the tail cap. However, it does not have a side switch.

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Vinh (Skylumen) has a winner: Noctigon KR1vn SBT-90.2, 5000 lm and 110 kcd! https://skylumen.com/products/noctigon-kr1vn-18650-highest-output-thrower-r It has Anduril, it even comes with a 18350 tube, and ice blue trit in the tail cap. However, it does not have a side switch.

And cost even more than better throwing FW21... 120$????? For what????

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Noctigon KR1 is a good host. FW21 is bigger, and it does not come with a trit or a 18350 tube.

The price isn’t too bad considering it is a custom flashlight modded by Vinh, and that he will de-lens the LED for you. Keep in mind you would pay $64.77 just to buy a KR1 with trit and 18350 tube from Hank, and SBT-90.2 LED costs at least $35. That’s $100 total. You are paying $20 for the mod.

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29% off coupon for X9L and copper FW21 Pro https://www.facebook.com/groups/359846644428368/permalink/1010585162687843/

Don’t know if I’m meant to posting this here..Code: NDX9P

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lightdecay wrote:
Keep in mind you would pay $64.77 just to buy a KR1 with trit and 18350 tube

49$ without 18350 tube (seriously, you wanna run 90.2 on 18350??) and trit alone is 3.50$, SBT90.2 is 32$.

TOTAL=85ish bucks

For remaining money buy soldering station on AX and watch youtube tutorial how to solder things...

Delensing SBT90.2 is a 1min job, get a hairdryer and hold it for a min over the lens then just peel off the dome. 

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Delensing SBT90.2 is a 1min job, get a hairdryer and hold it for a min over the lens then just peel off the dome. 

Is it really that easy? Can you do it with the LED still in the light?
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Is it really that easy? Can you do it with the LED still in the light?

Yes it is. I was surprised too when i have discovered by accident. Since then i have done it on all 3 of my flashlights. Not much bonding strength in that glue

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What are the gains of de-lesding? Has anyone measured?

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It shows up 3 days after I bought KR1vn….

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id30209 wrote:

Wanted ro say Lumintop X9L but when i saw price of 109$ i’ve changed my mind.


better buy Noctigon KR1 and SBT90.2 and merge them.


At least you will have the best driver for this emitter, CC over FET

Neal was working on creating Loneocean drivers for the FW series. I wonder if this X9L will be using Loneocean’s drivers or the standard lumintop FET drivers

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id30209 wrote:
Delensing SBT90.2 is a 1min job, get a hairdryer and hold it for a min over the lens then just peel off the dome.
Good to know, thanks! I didn’t know it was that easy.
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Neal was working on creating Loneocean drivers for the FW series. I wonder if this X9L will be using Loneocean's drivers or the standard lumintop FET drivers

I've got an answer from Victor Zhu (Lumintop) that X9L will use standard FET driver instead of Loneocean's Sad

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That’s disappointing. If the X9L had the Loneocean driver, I would even pay more for it. But with the standard FET driver, the light is just a toy and not much of a tool. I rather get the KR4vn with SBT90.2 mod, which has a much better driver.

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Vinh needs a better reamer Silly

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Even I could do better then that

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Looks like butchering, not modding a light.

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Two different lights IMO,
X9L is $35 (with code) cheaper than KR1vn
KR1 uses 18650 and X9L uses 21700 (having less battery sag and longer runtimes) – and as someone said why would you use a 18350 with an SBT90 light? if you want small, just buy a small light like the D4V2 with a 18350 tube
X9L has 60%+ extra throw than KR1vn
X9L has more mass for heat dissipation, of course at the expense of being a little bigger – can’t beat physics.

X9L = 40mm head x 123.6mm length x 25.2mm tube 126.3g weight. KR1 = 35mm head x 110mm length x 24mm tube 120g weight – probably weighing a little more after Vinh’s mod.

Kind of a no brainer to me, I got the X9L and toyed with the idea of getting the copper FW1 pro as well…..

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Glenn7 wrote:
Two different lights IMO,
X9L is $35 (with code) cheaper than KR1vn

Actually more if you’re not in the USA. Shipping it here costs $22.

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KR1 uses 18650 and X9L uses 21700 (having less battery sag and longer runtimes) – and as someone said why would you use a 18350 with an SBT90 light? if you want small, just buy a small light like the D4V2 with a 18350 tube

Because it likely still offers better performance than any other light of this size? Though a tuned Emisar D1 18500 might compete. I’m not sure, I haven’t done the maths.

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X9L has 60%+ extra throw than KR1vn

Throw intensity, let’s have it clear. Many use the word “throw” for throw distance.

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X9L has more mass for heat dissipation, of course at the expense of being a little bigger – can’t beat physics.

No. First, mass has little to do with heat dissipation. It has with heat sinking though.
But the difference is 126.3 vs. 120g anyway. Or 5.25%. There are factors that affect thermal performance more than such weight difference (f.e. 21700 cells tend to pull more amps and therefore generate more heat).
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I know it’s down to everyone’s preferences/choice but I will always go for the rear button lights, I have tons of both but I hate that I have to fiddle around in the dark for the switch when I just want light now!
Tho some manufacturers have both side and rear.

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Glenn7 wrote:
Two different lights IMO.

Agreed
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X9L is $35 (with code) cheaper than KR1vn.

Cheaper doesn’t mean better IMO especially when talking about Emisar/Noctigon.
Glenn7 wrote:
X9L has 60%+ extra throw than KR1vn

Probably should do the math and not arbitrarily toss out numbers your not ANYWHERE close to the 60%+ you claim to be the difference between KR1vn….. really please do the math….
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X9L has more mass for heat dissipation, of course at the expense of being a little bigger – can’t beat physics.

When the difference is 6grams I HIGHLY doubt its going to make ANY difference in heat dissipation when the difference is so minuscule.
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Keep in mind Hank’s specs are spot on and sometimes overconservative. Lumintop specs are usually overrated.

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Yes, just down to everyone’s individual preferences…

I bought the X9L within minutes of getting the email announcing it’s availability – an easy choice since I don’t like the aesthetics of the KR1.

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