New Fireflylite T9R STB90.2 / Osram 1x21700 Thrower Preview

56 posts / 0 new
Last post

Pages

FireFlies
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 6 days ago
Joined: 06/08/2018 - 12:26
Posts: 138
New Fireflylite T9R STB90.2 / Osram 1x21700 Thrower Preview

Specifications:

• 1* Luminous STB90.2 or 1* Osram KW CULNM1

• Max output 4800-lumen or 1500-lumen

• Light Intensity: STB90.2 (400Kcd) ; Osram KW CULNM1 (680Kcd)

• Battery type 1×21700 / 18650 (65mm to 77mm)

• Built-in USB Type-C 2A fast charging

• Most efficiency 6A Constant current regulated Buck driver , Efficiency > 90% ;

• Made of 6063-T6 aluminum, Type III hard coat anodizing

• Ultra Clear AR Coating Glass lens

• Stainless steel side switch with built-in battery charging indication

• Waterproof: IP67

• UI – open-source Anduril firmware

• Size: 6.57’‘ x 2.51’‘ x 1.04’‘ / 167*64*26.5mm

• Netweight: 199 gram / 7.02 oz





Edited by: FireFlies on 09/28/2020 - 05:00
Lux-Perpetua
Lux-Perpetua's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 1 day ago
Joined: 03/01/2018 - 04:39
Posts: 2542
Location: Germany, 德国, ドイツ, Германия, जर्मनी

Thanks a lot for showing another new interesting FireFlies light. Some questions...

  • It is advertised with Osram's Boost HX KW CULNM1.TG with 1,500lm using a 6A CC driver. If I am not mistaken the NM1.TG version is the 1mm² version with only about 900lm max. output. It's sweet spot in applied current is probably somewhere in between 3.8 and 4.8A. So, is it possible that you are using Osram's Boost HX KW CULPM1.TG with a 2mm² die area? That one would indeed match those numbers you advertise.
  • What's the maximum current on the SBT90.2 version? 6A constant current is nice for a decent brightness regulation on medium modes but for turbo this LED takes more than 18A to make it to 5,500lm. Most flashlights using the SBT90.2 seem to have an FET + DD (direct drive) or a CC (constant current) + DD (direct drive) circuit.
  • Last but not least...what's the price on these two lights? Smile
id30209
id30209's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 hours 49 min ago
Joined: 05/17/2018 - 12:20
Posts: 1500
Location: Croatia

Love this design!

In.

WTB Titanium 4sevens 2xAA tube

SKV89
Offline
Last seen: 37 min 40 sec ago
Joined: 12/10/2017 - 12:46
Posts: 4182
Location: US

USB-C recharge, much smaller size relative to the competition with same performance, nicely focused beam with no artifacts, and most important of all it’s the first time I’ve seen BUCK-BOOST DRIVER in these hot-rods!!!! Thumbs Up LOL

Can we have 8-10A max regulation with FET for the SBT90.2?

6A max would be good for CULNM1.TG and 8A max would be good for CULPM1.TG

id30209
id30209's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 hours 49 min ago
Joined: 05/17/2018 - 12:20
Posts: 1500
Location: Croatia

Oh yes i agree with SKV89, 10A regulated + FET would be perfect for SBT90.2

WTB Titanium 4sevens 2xAA tube

Anthon
Offline
Last seen: 21 hours 39 min ago
Joined: 09/07/2015 - 10:33
Posts: 664

Very interesting

Glenn7
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 45 sec ago
Joined: 01/17/2012 - 08:02
Posts: 227
Location: Tasmania Australia

When will these be available?

hasddie293
hasddie293's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 18 min ago
Joined: 03/05/2019 - 08:53
Posts: 327
Location: Brunei

I read multiple times the part it say “Most efficiency 6A Constant current regulated Buck/Boost driver , Efficiency > 90% “ is this kind of a new driver that I have not yet known? Who the technical guy here ?

In search of the most ideal flashlight in town:
1. BRIGHTNESS
2. Durabillity
3. Design
4. Quality
5. Price$$$

Majoroverkill
Majoroverkill's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 days ago
Joined: 01/12/2017 - 17:13
Posts: 961
Location: Nevada

Well that’s just GREAT! Another torch I have to add to my list, THANKS! I do like the look of this new Fireflies torch. Looks like a nice deep reflector with a head around the size of the FT03! the Osram should be great in this but like most SBT90.2 lights this size its probably going to heat up fairly quick. Now if you could make it in the same color as your diagram that would be AWESOME! Silly Looking forward to seeing more of the T9R Thumbs Up

Doug S.

0oklight
0oklight's picture
Offline
Last seen: 8 hours 48 min ago
Joined: 12/20/2019 - 18:51
Posts: 138
Location: London, UK

Well there goes my plan to mod my Weltool T11 with an SBT90.2!

I like the look of both these lights and no doubt will purchase. Interested to see how the constant current drivers play out in output and run times. I agree with others that at least for the SBT90.2 a FET would be a valuable addition.

EmptyWallets
Offline
Last seen: 4 weeks 1 day ago
Joined: 04/28/2019 - 00:18
Posts: 29

The SBT90.2 version definitely has FET since they’re claiming 4800lm

refer to this testing:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/71340

@6A it’s only doing ~2400 lumens

JaredM
JaredM's picture
Offline
Last seen: 15 hours 44 min ago
Joined: 10/31/2011 - 13:33
Posts: 1231
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Definitely some numbers here that don’t add up, but looking forward to see more of this. Looks really nice in some aspects. Osram PM1 seems a good fit. SBT90 is just a bit too much for this format imo, but there’ve been worse applications. Too bad there isn’t something in the ~6mm² class with competitive surface brightness.. here’s for hoping an SBT70.2 comes about.

Th558
Th558's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 11 min ago
Joined: 01/30/2016 - 16:19
Posts: 977
Location: United Kingdom

Seems nice. But why is it called Fireflylite? Don’t tell me they’re changing their name to that. Facepalm

will34
will34's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 22 hours ago
Joined: 12/18/2012 - 00:12
Posts: 3932

Nice design, reminds me of a lemax. 6A appears to be too high for a NM1 and too low for a PM1…

SKV89
Offline
Last seen: 37 min 40 sec ago
Joined: 12/10/2017 - 12:46
Posts: 4182
Location: US

6A should be good for a BoostHL though maybe 5.5A is probably best. Remember this is a CULNM1.tg not CSLNM1.tg.

I think SBT90.2 is great in this host. You don’t have to run it on turbo. If it is run on 6A, the SBT90.2 will be super efficient and can stay cool probably indefinitely. But I think maybe 8A-10A max regulation would be best for added flexibility. But regardless, this is the best SBT90.2 host/driver I’ve seen in the mid/small size range. Mega performance and buck-boost driver in a small package (relative to its throw specs).

Tubercle
Offline
Last seen: 29 min ago
Joined: 03/10/2019 - 14:28
Posts: 187
Location: USA

Yes yes! Welcome back Fireflies with a new light! I was checking on your website last few months for signs of a new light!
As w/ others have said, I think 6A is too low for SBT90.2? Do love the USB-C charging tho, and host looks like its got good cooling properties.

ch1ir
Offline
Last seen: 6 hours 13 min ago
Joined: 06/08/2019 - 06:30
Posts: 294
Location: Lou, Ky

Love it

Emisar D⁴, Astrolux C8, BLF A6, Sofirn sp36aV2, Reylight Mini Pineapple, BLF 348 KillZone, Lumintop IYP07, Emisar D18, Boruit D10, Manker e01, Ultrafire z1, Massdrop titanium AAA, Astrolux HL01, Armytek Wizard Pro Nichia, Tacklife LFL3A, Astrolux FT03, Zanflair T1

lightdecay
Offline
Last seen: 15 min 14 sec ago
Joined: 06/17/2019 - 08:55
Posts: 406
Location: U.S.A.

The old name Fireflies was better, Fireflylite is not as good.

This is amazing:
• Most efficiency 6A Constant current regulated Buck/Boost driver , Efficiency > 90%
• Built-in USB Type-C 2A fast charging

It is great to see more flashlights with efficient buck/boost drivers!

Could you also offer SBT-90 RED as an option? It has a low forward voltage, and it would really benefit from the buck/boost driver.

PBWilson
Offline
Last seen: 10 hours 24 min ago
Joined: 08/24/2016 - 17:49
Posts: 1032
Location: Rochester, NY

I’ve been scratching my chin over a small, but super powerful thrower with this emitter when I saw the Lumintop one and the one from Amutorch. I can’t wait to see a head to head in the future. This one has a pretty cool look to it. Their designers crafted a great looking light!

Taskulamppu
Taskulamppu's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 1 day ago
Joined: 12/08/2019 - 11:11
Posts: 40
Location: Finland

Noctigon K1 used to cost $80 but now it costs $90…

If this flashlight costs $60 – $70, it will make the K1 completely obsolete IMO.

Is there any ETA for release or info about pricing?

SKV89
Offline
Last seen: 37 min 40 sec ago
Joined: 12/10/2017 - 12:46
Posts: 4182
Location: US

Taskulamppu wrote:
Noctigon K1 used to cost $80 but now it costs $90…

If this flashlight costs $60 – $70, it will make the K1 completely obsolete IMO.

Is there any ETA for release or info about pricing?

I doubt this will cost less than the K1 if it uses buck-boost driver.

Tom E
Tom E's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 hours 10 min ago
Joined: 08/19/2012 - 08:23
Posts: 13593
Location: LI NY

Can't compete with the larger K1 - a 64 mm diam. head is smaller than the 72 mm K1.

I'm getting over 500 kcd on my K1 SBT90.2.

thefreeman
thefreeman's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 hours 53 min ago
Joined: 01/06/2020 - 09:56
Posts: 256
Location: France

SKV89 wrote:
Taskulamppu wrote:
Noctigon K1 used to cost $80 but now it costs $90…

If this flashlight costs $60 – $70, it will make the K1 completely obsolete IMO.

Is there any ETA for release or info about pricing?

I doubt this will cost less than the K1 if it uses buck-boost driver.

Am I missing something about the boost part ? I only see buck being mentioned in the OP.

blueb8llz
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 56 min ago
Joined: 06/02/2012 - 01:16
Posts: 3062
Location: California

Any idea of the preorder or release date?

SKV89
Offline
Last seen: 37 min 40 sec ago
Joined: 12/10/2017 - 12:46
Posts: 4182
Location: US

thefreeman wrote:
SKV89 wrote:
Taskulamppu wrote:
Noctigon K1 used to cost $80 but now it costs $90…

If this flashlight costs $60 – $70, it will make the K1 completely obsolete IMO.

Is there any ETA for release or info about pricing?

I doubt this will cost less than the K1 if it uses buck-boost driver.

Am I missing something about the boost part ? I only see buck being mentioned in the OP.

I thought it was buck boost. Turned out it’s buck only.

Hardusvd70
Hardusvd70's picture
Online
Last seen: 13 min 20 sec ago
Joined: 04/09/2017 - 01:11
Posts: 309
Location: Free State

SKV89 wrote:
thefreeman wrote:
SKV89 wrote:
Taskulamppu wrote:
Noctigon K1 used to cost $80 but now it costs $90…

If this flashlight costs $60 – $70, it will make the K1 completely obsolete IMO.

Is there any ETA for release or info about pricing?

I doubt this will cost less than the K1 if it uses buck-boost driver.

Am I missing something about the boost part ? I only see buck being mentioned in the OP.

I thought it was buck boost. Turned out it’s buck only.


Yeah only buck. That is the info they gave me.

Hardusvd70

FireFlies
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 6 days ago
Joined: 06/08/2018 - 12:26
Posts: 138
blueb8llz wrote:
Any idea of the preorder or release date?

EST Around 10th Nov

blueb8llz
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 56 min ago
Joined: 06/02/2012 - 01:16
Posts: 3062
Location: California

That’s around the corner but still quite a whiles a way. I’m really looking forward to this light, maybe I’ll purchase a k1 to keep me entertained for the time being.

badtziscool
Offline
Last seen: 1 day 12 hours ago
Joined: 06/18/2019 - 15:09
Posts: 30

This is interesting. I have to ask though. With SBT-90.2 and Anduril, will this light exhibit the premature throttling of the output like on the Astrolux FT03S?

BurningPlayd0h
BurningPlayd0h's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 8 min ago
Joined: 06/22/2018 - 02:16
Posts: 1543
Location: MN
badtziscool wrote:
This is interesting. I have to ask though. With SBT-90.2 and Anduril, will this light exhibit the premature throttling of the output like on the Astrolux FT03S?

Considering I haven’t heard of it occurring on the K1 w/SBT90.2 that probably comes down to component placement/overall design and potentially also having a proper firmware version that is calibrated for that version of the light – something Hank has for every light AFAIK, and which Fireflies may have for some of their newer models.

Hardusvd70
Hardusvd70's picture
Online
Last seen: 13 min 20 sec ago
Joined: 04/09/2017 - 01:11
Posts: 309
Location: Free State
FireFlies wrote:
blueb8llz wrote:
Any idea of the preorder or release date?

EST Around 10th Nov


Is the release date still around the 10th?

Hardusvd70

Pages