Notice/Analysis Astrolux EC06

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Notice/Analysis Astrolux EC06

Hi all,

It’s my first “rewiew”, i’ve a lot of limitation so my tittle.
But I would try to be able to explain my deception to the EC06 by other than a “conventional” test and make a try for the futur.

*I want to thank The_Flashaholic to give me permission to use screen off his video for example
Link to his BLF topic for this link with the link of his video*
Link to an other topic who speak about this light more enthusiastic that me

Astrolux EC06 by Banggood:

Astrolux EC06 by rare footage in their natural environment

For specs , Smile

The problem that I met with is light has been its weight especially its repartition.
I use Astrolux MF01S for base compare.
When see the specs MF01S as only 10 grams more EC06
With the exterior designe of EC06 with low heat sink I’ve think they have put weight in head for tank heat

Finaly, no.
EC06

MF01


I had an immediate disappointment at the opening when I separe head from body.
The body weighs as much as the head.
While trying it I realize, heat quickly off course, but above all a very strong output regulation.
As it was predictable high outpout is not substainable, but my biggest deception was is in low capacity to maintain respectable output in more casual use.
I’m not fan tho the base UI version put inside, smooth ramping mode never provided a precise and reproducible idea if you found a good output power for our use, Stepped mode can do that, i can tell you 2 step under max step ramp is a good compromise between heat generation/sustainable runtime.
EC06 have stepped mode by output power 25,50,75,100% (it must be able to modify it without much searching I have not found)
With EC06 only 25% have little chance tu be sustainable.
With my eye and smooth ramp mode i can say around 35% can be usable beam but with very low runtime

It’s the problem with this light, this beam profile (wide, spread out) must be have X Thousand lumens inside to have good rendering.
I cannot measure lumens output but i’ve the impression 4000-5000 lumens give usable output, but cannot be maintained, compare to Astrolux MF01S
And i speak with cold start (around 0 degres) by not using especially high mode, if you use just only 50% power the decrease is hard and come you quickly under 1000 lumens.
and I really confirmed in The_Flashaholic’s test

EC06

MF01S

We can see at the screen EC06 a first turbo can’t maintain constant output, little stepdown by stepdown falls to 0 compare to MF01S
Second turbo activation is terrible down quickly and especially so low, near to 0.
This is this problem who affect a eventual 4000 lumens sustainable
You can see the MF01S after first turbo decrease and maintain his output, after second turbo activation first decrease, 1 step, second decrease and maintain equal output than the first turbo activation.
Its may seem small gap but that’s the difference between a light who can tank and evacuate heat and a light who can’t.
The difference between usable and not usable.

The weight at the top of this rewiew is not to be neglected.
EC06 with is very low thermals design would have been heavier head compare to MF01S to hope usable 4000 Lumens beam, but they did the opposite.
I can agree the design of EC06 only for short and high output with hard thermal stepdown to allow time for the heat to pass in the massive battery carrier and offer little more short burst.

When you look specs with EC06 to compare with MF01S it’s hard to see that
You can see less heat sinking but not the weight repartition.
And that, therefore MF01S is very good usable light and EC06 is a WOW light.
You can see the enthusiastic post for the good thing to this light

By way of conclusion I let you with pics of two lamps capable of give 4000 durable output to compare weight and thermals design
Acebeam X45


BLF Q8 (Thorfire)


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The end Smile
I am not at all satisfied with my work
Clearly beamshot to compare is needed, I Know, I dont have for the moment any material to make a acceptable job
I try few hours to get pics for discuss about the beauty of GT FC 40 5000K LED and there is the result:

So wonderfull red on the center but my materiel ruins that Sad

So, nothing is better Silly

Lot of beamshot are available there is not the finality of this thread , just show the limited capacity of this light.

The idea with this rewiew it’s try to make a different point of view of a light inside a test/rewiew, more simple and casual by intended use.
Reason i’ve rushed my coming to BLF community because when I received this lamp, I was just disappointed and to see that for everyone everything was fine based on beamshot and other speciations that reflect in nothing, in my opinion, the capabilities of this lamp.

A casual people read BLF thread or rewiew can think this light nice, but not for me so many other light can offer better performance, lower the thousande crazy output of this light but more valuable lumens.

Other cons to my rewiew, I write too much I do not know English at all and its formulation, I realize this content doesn’t have to be super nice to read but I wanted to avoid having my person break in two for a possible lack of content for this first try.

My opinion is not very helpful. the idea would rather be to answer by example, practice and various tests with a little feedback
Clearly I don’t want take few pics of light in beautiful situation, speak about is relating beauty, what inside the box ect…
Just focus on his basic capability, make light, generate/evacuate heat ect…
Not FET 2+3, dual chanel, 1,2,3 viva my plushie ect…
More feedback example at 3.70 volt the light still generates a lot of heat this is a good sign for optimal use of your battery capacity ect…
More “realistic” for me, less technicaly and/or unreal condition

My first try, for hope, one day a better job.
I look forward to your positive or negative criticism, I take all for the futur

Have a nice night !

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Thanks for taking the effort to do this review. You are right that sustainability of output is very important when a flashlight gets proper use, and there are more people on BLF who will agree with you.

Astrolux flashlights (more than other brands) are not tested in real life situations, they are brought to the market and the buyers are the first testers. So all Astrolux models have flaws and many of those flaws would have been easily avoided of they underwent a test phase by users before the design was finalised. But that is not what they do so with every model it is a gamble how bad the flaws are (some models turn out good and good value).

The Q8 by contrast was tested by users (BLF members), and design changes were implemented after testing. It is by no means perfect but you can notice the result of such a testing phase: it is a well-made flashlight.

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I’ve got the light and it heats up really fast. This is the “tiny” 3-21700 lumen queen. It easily runs at twice the wattage of other lights this size with grossly over powered TURBO. Mine is in advanced UI and without using turbo it performs like most other lights. High gets warm and has a thermal setting that slowly lowers output to match the heat limit. Heat has more time to transfer into the body. Batteries are already heating up under the huge turbo pull, I don’t want anymore heat bleeding in quickly from the head. I don’t believe that the slow head to body heat transfer was intentional. I do believe that flaw is safer for the batteries and the hand holding it.

I’m a lumen junkie I like 24,000-27,000 lumen turbo as reported by others. Great for showing off lighting up a whole field. Used without turbo the light performs well given size and output. If this was only an 8,000-12,000 lumen light we wouldn’t be having this discussion. More cooling surface area is one possible improvement. An accessory like a finned bezel. Given the size, weight and output there is another option to slow over heating. Remove the jumper wires. Run with Molicel M50A, a higher capacity with also a higher internal resistance. These two steps would lower turbo and some of the excessive heat.

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I’m still making my review, but this model can’t sustain more than 730 lumens.

Sensor calibrated
50°C temp limit
23° Ambient temp
3x Molicel P42A
Start 24,600

Made by Sofirn

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Thank’s for reply Smile

@djozz
I didn’t mean to say it was a bad first batch.
This light is crazy, outstanding for 60 bucks, but only for one use, short burst.
For me she is just design for that thing and it’s a reussite.
I just wanted to define this context more, I thought when I saw (and pre order) her it was possible to have sustainable 3000 lumens output.
Which is clearly impossible the moment I had it in my hands, for several reason who I try to explain in this rewiew.
Speaking without answer on this fact in another topic, I decided to do this review so that no one else would make that mistake.
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texas shooter is clearly in reality for this light, just put Molicel inside and without mod you have more 20.000 lumens for lighting up a whole field, for short time.
I understand his opinion it’s always nice when someone finds the perfect light Love
I don’t think the battery carrier was only design for heat, but with its width and weight, it is a positive side effect used which, I find has been rather well exploited.
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Thank’s for add our testing Funtastic Smile
It’s very low performance Sad
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I also wanted to have an amateur/casual look on this lamp and not only “flashaholic” point of wiew
If I give WildTrail WT1M and Astrolux EC06 I’m pretty sure he comes back and tells me “the fat one sucks” Big Smile

I’ve strange impression with this light, EC01 and EC03 and realy nice light for casual have might believe EC06 is step up of this 2 light but the gap is very large and its versatility is greatly reduced.

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This is a nice toy light with some limited practical use. We are exceeding what a soda can light can do. An older style of light https://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_19385.html is needed for long performing hot rods. This as a 6 or 9 cell 18650 https://budgetlightforum.com/node/31155 and we can run 12 XHP50.2 at good to hot levels. 9-18650’s with 10 amps protected PCB’s and we are still looking at 360 watts. Mine has been modified to run 12 XPL’s at 3 amps each. I can run the light through 3 5000mah 26650’s until the low voltage kicks in without over heating. She only gets warm.

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Thanks for the idea Smile
I’m not able to mod anything actualy but why not for the futur
I take this host in favorite Silly If you have other on pop can size I take too Big Smile