SRK goes 80+ CRI and 30+ Watt. Why choose between CRI/TINT and brightness when you can have both? :)

I been stupid in the past. Thinking, if I want max brightness I should stick to higher BIN emitters, sacrifice some in the tint and CRI department. Lights like SRK are kinda made to be WOW in terms of brightness, right? They should always be max brightness?? If upgraded, the default choice should be higher bin, right? Wrong… I have now seen the light!.. Yes, I switched on a flashlight again… 0:)
My previous modded high output light with good brightness and ok tint/CRI was a TR-3T6 with NW T6 3C and 3-18V intl-outdoor driver circuit (30W input if 3 batteries was used). That is now obsolete, not because of light output but because of this SRK…

Intl-outdoor recently got some game changing puppies in stock.
CREE XM-L2 T4 5B1 MINIMUM 80 CRI

They are lovely! :heart_eyes: Before putting some in the SRK, I had already put one in a single emitter light. I knew I was in for a treat and I had high expectations!
Btw, for those who are not familiar with my taste. I prefer 3500-4300K. The higher the CRI the better. I often do exceptions in both directions though depending on the light…

Thanks to Relic38, and his thread about modding a SRK with a fairly similar linear driver, there was hope for mine too. :slight_smile:
Despite that mine had quite high output when I started. Between 2,2 to 2,7 to each emitter… But… MOAR NW 80 CRI MINIMUM LUMENZZ!! J) J)

I ended up using
2x 0,12R resistors on L1 (On my particular light, this channels had lowest output before and after mod)
1x0,12R resistors on the L2
1x 0,12R resistor on L3

The resistors were added inside the green “rings”.

The resistors were shorter than the stock ones, so i used a piece of tinned wire in order to make contact. Wires was also upgraded. 22 AWG.

In order to effortlessly get the old emitters out, I just “cook” them. I let the plate heat up before I throw the pill on. Once the solder melts the emitters goes off right away. Then some time later. The mcpcbs should come off easily with tweezers. This is usually the time I re-flow the LEDs on copper, since they are already off. But usually I replace them with something nicer. 0:)

What do we have here? Some emitter porn… :stuck_out_tongue:

Good themal paste under the emitters, fujick on the side…

They were centered by using a flat little screwdriver through the reflector…

Screwed together so that it would dry overnight.

Put the light back together with stock insulation sheets between the reflector and mcpcb.

Now, what about emitter current after the resistor mod?
3,26A
2,85A
3,16A
(3,09 average)

I checked emitter current before (XM-L) and after (XM-L2 on copper), and the differences were small. Marginally lower after XM-L2 upgrade.
I could have gotten them closer, but as someone mentioned in another thread, having one a bit lower gives kinda gives the light a low battery voltage warning. The leds with the highest current will dim first. I have not tried it though. I was just more than pleased with having around 3A+ average on them. :slight_smile:

Maybe ill add beamshots some time. But beamshots does not clearly show the nice tint and color rendering.
Im very pleased with this mod! Like very, very pleased… :heart_eyes:

:party:

Great job on the upgrade!
So is the emitter that’s gonna sway us 219er’s to more lumens?
I’d love to see a beamshot comparing it to the 219 in terms of tint not output.

Oh man this build sounds sweet. Great work and thank you for sharing.

Nice job! I love how you “cook” the emitters. :smiley:

Thanks for sharing!

I have always been in the lumen camp. Me, a lumen whore? Guilty… 0:)
I just happen to be a tint and CRI snob as well who often prefer slightly warmer tints. Not a big fan of the “CW” side of NW… But they have a purpose.

I doubt you would see much difference on pictures. A real life comparison would be needed anyway IMO.
I have done some comparisons with the Nichia 119 vs some XM-Ls when I did my personal low budget Sipik SK68 high CRI emitter on copper challenge.
That is supposed to be 92 CRI. Not much difference between that on WW XM-L that should be 80-CRI in terms of CRI on the pictures.

I don’t think its possible to dislike the XM-L2s T4 5B1s with 80CRI minium… Its certainly worth a shot!
Compared to XM-L T5 5C, I would say the light is more natural. Just nice quality light. I really like the normal 5C (75-CRI typical) with similar tint too. But this light is just that little extra when it comes to CRI, which makes a difference for the CRI-snobs… :slight_smile: I also thinks it makes easier to like for those who swear to 4500K.
Its the highest CRI NW XM-L2 there is! Its certainly worth a shot if you are looking for high output combined with quality light.

Im looking forward to compare them with the slightly warmer XM-L2 T3 6A1, also 80-CRI minium. :slight_smile:

RaceR86,

I’ve seen your Nichia119 mod thread, great ingenuity getting that 119 in there!

Thanks for the description on this new XML2 T4 5B1 80CRI and looking forward to seeing your comparison to the 6A1 80CRI.

Really nice work, brother! :davie:

where do you get an xm-l with 6a tint?

Check Intl-Outdoor.com’s LED section.

You may want to bookmark the link in Racer’s sig for easy access to the BLF community’s collaborative catalogue of sources for emitters :wink:

glad to see you've seen the light

welcome to snobs R us

Thanks for the nice comments.

:slight_smile:
+1
btw, the direct link to the emitter should also have been easy to see in my first post… 0:)

Welcome? I though I had been in the “snobs R us” club … But then they threw me out, because all my lights were too hot when used on high… :stuck_out_tongue:

beam shots or it didn’t happen

nice work!

I’m definitely going to have to try some of these, for those that dont wish to emitter swap but do want to try them out, have a look at the middle emitter option on this light.

http://intl-outdoor.com/xintd-c8-v4-xml2-t6-18650-flashlight-p-308.html nice job r86 I like your style.

I think in exactly the same line, this is a great mod, high cri blast!! . I have two of those 80 cri 5b emitters waiting on my desk and two 80cri 6a emitters in the mail. Also I'm waiting for the swm d40a light, not sure yet which of these two emitters are going to get in there. I am looking forward to a direct comparison with the Nichia219

Thanks Gords!

Djozz, keep us updated on the comparison, and your opinion of these emitters ! :slight_smile:

Ok, I just put that XM-L2 5B1 emitter in a flashlight, actually it has become a (although somewhat boring -because sensible-) nice flashlight:

It is a Convoy M2 host, I put in this XM-L2 5B1 80 CRI emitter on a Sinkpad reflowed onto the pill, and a Qlite (revA) 3.04A driver. (The measurements are moon <<1lm , low 14.6lm, mid 209lm, high 752lm, out the front. Throw 12.8 klux@1meter.)

But this post is about the comparison of the emitter to the Nichia 219. Well, I had hoped that it stood up very well to the 219 and that it would be a high output alternative for me, but I find that not really the case. The tint is very nice, I love the flashlight, but even this 80 CRI XM-L2 has the cosy Cree yellow wash over the colours that is a bit less natural. To me the Nichia219 is still a clear winner in true colour representation, but I may also just not like that yellow much.

A picture that gives an idea is here below, mouse out the XM-L2 5B1 80 CRI, mouse over the Nichia219:

Hey that XML2 80+CRI looks really nice.
The warmness of it should make it great for outdoor use.
Thanks for the direct comparison!

Thanks for sharing djozz.
Funny you posted that right now. I have just (minutes ago) been playing around with the XM-L2 T3 6A1 Minimum 80 CRI (which I got today). Shining it on everything and combining with other tints. I put it in a Convoy M1, copper sinkpad and Qlite. Some similarities with your choice of parts? … :stuck_out_tongue: (It replaced a 3000K XM-L T4/T3 7B.)
To me, the 6A1 looks a bit red-ish, in a slightly unnatural way. The tint reminds me a bit of the XP-G2 R4 5A (which I dont have in a flashlight right now). Did prefer either slightly warmer or cooler when it came to that XP-G2 too.
Id much rather have the XM-L2 5B1, or a 7B/C based on first impressions. Ill probably swap the 6A1 with something else again in the future…

In your picture the XM-L2 5B1 looks way more yellow-ish and warmer than it does in real life to my eyes…

I think I need to combine 5A and 7C/B in order to make a nice “6” tint light. When I combine those two tints it looks way better than the 6A1.
Im curious about your thoughts on that emitter… Tell me when you get one in a light…

You gonna eat that peach? Looks tasty…

Gone..