Group Buy-BLF X6-SE OP update-GB over.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

Sorry, didn't envision that part, just the ensuing race and noisy chaos...

[C-channel]

Ha ha. This tread is interesting. I want this light so badly now.

[jealous57]

I’m (#144) already down for one marked “np” assuming that is no preference. If the list matters please put me down for a second and mark one CW and one NW

[Billy_X]

+1 for last mode memory.If it currently doesn’t have it,what does it have?Not the universally detested next mode memory J)

This light ticks an awful lot of boxes but I think getting rid of next mode,if it is next mode,is a priority for many.

Thanks for getting it unglued guys 0:) .

Shall I reserve a second one?Go on then,CW this time.Billy X 113a or where ever.

[chenko]

I have 2 ideas:

1. Driver with more GROUPS that can be changed as Eagletac does: press quickly 20 times to change group

2. Memory mode, but the light resets to moonlight-first when tailcap lockout

[chesterqw]

Please start from lowest brightness to highest.
No need to blind myself when it is dark and I just need a little light.

[chesterqw]

Do I need to state the number of light I am buying now?

[Wojto]

Even without mode memory and other modes it still going to be a great flashlight.
I want to thank everyone standing behind this groupbuy for making it happen.
Great job guys!

[kronological]

It will NOT be next mode memory :cowboy_hat_face:

[zelee]

@kronological

It will NOT be next mode memory :cowboy_hat_face:

oh well at least same as my DQG 26650 always start on low

[Gj1 (Gj)]

@B42

Mode memory does seem the best solution, but order is also important. I do want to start in low or high at different times too and can see both viewpoints, and preferably (I know its impractical) I’d like to switch between them. But, you can always press your light firmly into your clothes and mode change down, you can not instantly do 5 mode changes for fast light in a deterrent situation or “whats that moving” in the dark… it makes more sense to start high for this reason: low low people have a possible solution, immediate high do not. Low low people should not want to start into low low for an “emergency”/think fast type of situation, while high mode first use people would tend to think of fiddling with a light that doesnt work so well to see as cumbersome, annoying or even risky. The other issue is, the lower this “low low” gets, the more annoying it will be for more people in more situations, and it will get our gift target people looking at the business end of the light over and over to see if its even on. I can see my friend going from “wow this is an awesomely bright light” to “this light is annoying, can you get it to really turn on first press?”. Half the flashoholics may like low low first, but I doubt all but a few non-flashoholics would like two low modes first: I know a few older people who would likely toss this light away in frustration with low modes always first and accidentally cycling 6 instead of 5 clicks… I’ve already seen an example of the annoyed relative with 4 clicks. So even though I’d still buy one, I would decrease my order for gifts since I know some giftees would not like it and would end up not using the light just because of this low low first then low, then med (“finally I got some light!”), then high, then turbo… I think we should keep to the issues most important for most: Max A, tint options are most important for most, and make or break the light. Next important though, if you put a tiny .1 lumen output moonlight on first, that will be annoying to more people than will be pleased with this I’ll bet, but the percentage of flashoholics will be much larger and much more vocal. Maybe we can let the low low people pick some extremely low lumen amount if they just agree to let it be on high first? I like the light and will get one, the bigger points of higher A and WW option will get me to buy more. And while I personally wouldn’t be likely bothered with a low low always first, I’ll say it does reduce my gifting ability of this light significantly!

Some people need single mode lights.

[KawiBoy1428]

@kronological

RaceR86 has proposed this, and Tom E agrees:

“3 normal well spaced modes are good for me. I believe that the majority who like moonlight already have a better (more floody) light for close up moonlight stuff. My guess is that the majority of the buyers will not use it (on a light like this). Just make low proper low and I believe you are more likely to make more people happy.

Id like to see “wider mode spacing”. More like:

H 3A (100%)
M 0,75A (25%)
L 0,035A (1,2%)
Quick off time mode memory
Low voltage warning from 2,7-3V (A double blink every 60sec or something like that)
Cut off below 2,7V”

What say you???

Hell Yeah!!!

[chesterqw]

How possible is it to have 2 different set of modes? Tighten or untighten the head for 2 different set of modes.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

It takes a completely different design to accomplish what you suggest. The primary goal of this group buy is to keep the price point at or below $20. The light can be bought as is right now for 18.83 or something like that. If you want to fancy it up with head twists for modes you can look for that price to soar.

The only light I have that works as you suggest cost $94.

[chesterqw]

Oh my that is too much for my wallet :zipper_mouth_face:

[Cereal_killer]

I would hope memory is a end user selectable option (soldering a “star” or cutting a trace). I would much prefer the light start on moonlight and go up (remember my true preference is for it to start on high going down) but I’d rather compromise and have it start on low going up than have memory we can’t disable. I only own 2 lights with memory, I almost universally hate memory (and I’m using off-time based last mode memory, on-time and/or next mode would be horrible) and those 2 lights have very specific uses.

Like Dale I have dozens of lights I have built exactly how I want and swap drivers 3 minutes after they get here, with this light the factory drivers are one of the biggest appeals for me, tho I have a very specific set of options of what I would like best as long as some basic’s are met I’m more then happy to compromise on the list of spec’s but it must have a option to disable memory, I was under that impression this whole time (guess. Just figured since the current stock light is no-mem) and would probably back out (or atleast down to just one or so as a host) if it wasn’t an option.

Please make sure memory can either be disabled by us or its something we can specify when ordering, memory would kill this for me.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

Let’s not lose sight of the fact that this is an extremely well built smallish light. The actual driver and user interface are of less importance than the lights capabilities due to it’s excellent build.

My Fenix TK61 is pulling 7.2A and making 1611 lumens. The X6 I am giving away pulls 6.87A and makes 1618 lumens. Can you get a Fenix TK61 for $20? Granted, the X6 makes 83Kcd to the TK61’s 565Kcd… the big light has a definite real estate advantage.

[Tom_E]

I couldn't wait - ordered one from BG... Since it will be modded, the LED and driver don't matter.

Are X6 hosts still going to happen?

[LowLumen]

I would order a stock one today if I could be sure it would come without GLUE.
…I don’t want a fight (and maybe damaged) to get it opened for mods.

[bugsy36]

I am all for the mode memory. Short of starting on automatically high for my intended purpose we would have to cycle through each mode to get there every time we use the light if we lack mode memory. Unfortunately, for work purposes this light would become negated without it. If I was a modder that would be a different story for my light but my coworkers that are going to get these as gifts do not mod.

Dale is correct that this a quality unit especially for the investment but usability for the masses (especially those that are not well versed in modding) is also something that I think is being taken into consideration here. All of those involved have done an excellent job at trying to put this together!