Nope, you did good by calling the Sheriff.
IF spotlighting is illegal, whoever it was is nothing more than a criminal… simple as that. They need to be caught and/or dealt with.
IF they become a problem on your property, there are ways besides the Sheriff also……… as I feel sure you are more than aware of.
You were getting to be in fear for your life were you not??? …
I just gave my pair of Sanyo 20700B cells a nice test.
Finished my DBC-05 Triple XHP-50.2. I used a straight FET driver, board from MTN electronics and built with an SIR404DP MOSFET and 20 ga leads to each emitter directly from the 20mm driver. (Yes, 6 wires from the driver)
Freshly charged, the 20700B’s showed these amp numbers and then I tested it on the light box without recharging…
0.18A for 122.13 Lumens
0.42A for 333.96
1.22A for 941.85
4.67A for 2839.35
9.01A for 5147.40
15.25A for 7866
and at 30 seconds (after all the above testing) it still showed 7728 lumens.
I don’t have the driver spring bypassed, so there’s probably more to play with and certainly more if/when the 20700A becomes available again.
I’ll not complain about the 9000 lumens on this particular pair of cells, but the tint and overall layout of the beam characteristics is not really to my liking. The reflector makes a decent hot spot from the 3 emitters, it’s the XHP-50.2 itself that is the problem. On the lower modes it’s a blue-ish purple in the hot spot, only clearing up at high levels. I’ll have to play with it some more and see if I can get some pics to show it, tired and beat up feeling at the moment… making lights from scratch on a lathe with my limited skill set is brutal…
Metabo also uses 20700 cells for quite some time now, about a year or 2 (maybe more). I know metabo has a deal with Sanyo, all their packs use Sanyo cells. I don’t own any of the LiHD packs cause they are expensive as hell. I don’t see the point in buying thosepacks, although they claim that their brushless tools get more power when using the new packs. But I don’t own any brushless tools (I’d rather be able to put in new brushes when the time comes) and for that 1Ah more capacity I don’t feel like paying almost double the price of 18650 packs
I found that the high amp drain from 3 XHP-50.2 emitters killed off the 20700B too fast so I have made a larger battery tube for 26650’s. Have yet to make the tail cap and will also be replacing the bezel for a better lens fit with o-ring so until I complete it again I won’t really know how much gain the larger cells will give. LiitoKala 5000mAh 26650’s are en-route.
Spent a few hours finalizing the big triple this afternoon. The new bezel worked out really nice and the way it’s done gives me some flexibility on the thickness of lens/o-ring. I salvaged the original tail cap by machining threads into the knurled 20700 tube and using this end as a “plug” in the 26650 tube. I had a copper exposed end with a large chunk of copper as the retaining ring inside it so I managed to save all that and it looks ok. Perhaps a bit makeshift but still, it works. lol At this point the big tube is just knurled, no grooves, may leave it like this as it feels pretty good in-hand.
While I DO want at least a pair of the 21700 for that high amperage ability, they’re much less capacity in the end so overall the differences aren’t what they may appear. Short term, yes. And I’ll exploit that when I can find a pair.
For our direct drive applications there seems to be a diminishing performance return as the cell IR goes lower. This is because other resistance in the circuit becomes the limiting factor. So even though this cell about halves the IR of a cell like the 30Q, the performance might increase by 25% or less, and the energy density decreases significantly. I guess it’s just a matter of where one’s properties lie.
So it’s a really entertaining thing to hit 21A and 11,600 lumens in a flashlight, but with 4000mAh on tap the entertainment is short lived. If the 21700 could do 30A, sure it’d be awesome, but only for a few minutes. After the first few minutes it’d be the same as most any other cell, so…
Of course, I’ll do it.
Edit: This debate reminds me of the Tortoise and Hare story, fast and furious for a few minutes but the long deliberate search wins so many times. For home defense, sure, 20,000 lumens in the face of an intruder can have a staggering impact and there’s no need for 30 minutes of it. Searching for a lost child during a storm in the wee morning hours would have a different demand on the light used. Or just one step down from Turbo perhaps. lol
Im designing a 2x18650 battery box for a caving light and I’m considering making it spacious enough to accommodate unprotected 20700. After all it’s equal in length and only a bit thicker than protected 18650. Just ordered two from nkon.nl (15,28€ shipped). They are rated 4250mAh.