21700 batteries that fit Convoy S21A flashlight

Convoy’s website recommends thin 21700s that haven’t been re-labeled. Those are too big to fit in the flashlight. I’m looking for protected cells (I like to minimize complications and possible issues, but maybe today that isn’t a safety issue that concerns people anymore with modern cells?). What is a good reliable place to get LG, Samsung, Tesla, or Sony batteries? I found some sites that had Samsung ones, but they didn’t list specs. Are Nitecore’s thin or relabeled? I found one INR of theirs on a couple sites, but strangely it’s not listed on their website. I’m open to some suggestions on quality 21700 cells that don’t break my bank.

Also IMR/INR, vs regular Lithium cells? The flashlight is 6000ma at the brightest setting, but I’d like to be able to use the brightest option for as long as possible. Is their any downside to IMR’s vs regular lithiums? The only difference I can tell is standard lithiums have more energy storage.

Convoy description for the light
“I recommend LG ,samsung,tesla ,sony original 21700 battery, dont use vapcell,sofirn ,LISHEN etc. 21700 battery ,they replace the shrinkable tube of LG or samsung 21700, they are little thicker and not suitable. )”

Thanks for the assistance :THUMBS-UP:

Do you live in the US?

Don’t worry about chemistry too much and the like.

You need to look at the continuous discharge rating of a cell to see if the light can support it.

As an example, the Samsung 30Q has a continuous discharge rating of 15A, but is actually underrated.

If you want the cheapest 21700 cell that supports 12A discharge, I would recommend this one:
https://www.18650batterystore.com/21700-p/lishen-lr2170sa.htm

If you want a more powerful cell(30A), here it is:

Why are these only at 4000mah when others are at 5000mah?

I wouldn’t mind paying a little more for 1000mah more capacity to use at work.

Because the 5000mAh cells are only rated to 10A max, while the Convoy M3 is rated at a max drain of 11A+.

You can order the 5Ah cells, but you will be limited on max mode in terms of runtime.

The description of the S21A says 6000ma at a peak brightness of 2300 lumens. I could be misunderstanding it though.

Oh, you want the S21A, not the new Convoy M3. :person_facepalming:

Get the Samsung 50Es then:

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/33026858558.html?sellerAdminSeq=121130677&spm=a2g0n.search-amp.list.33026858558&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=4691amp—vz7AeuoF9q1rJg0wko2dg1559583011194

Yep.

The 50Es are perfect:

What is the primary difference between protected and unprotected cells?

Is their a safety benefit to protected cells still?

Nah, especially since most of our lights already include the protections, the most important ones being reverse polarity protection and low voltage protection, which the S21A already includes.

So, no, there are no safety benefits, especially since you use quality light(S21A) and a high quality charger(Miboxer C4-12 Upgraded).

That makes sense. Does LG or Samsung offer some options that are protected cells for comparison? I don’t mind paying a little more for peace of mind. I just need one that isn’t re labeled or has a very thin one to fit this light it looks like.

LG or Samsung don’t offer protected cells of any kind.

And besides, protected cells won’t fit in the tubes anyway…

I use Samsung 40T in my S21A and it fits like a glove :slight_smile: Atm i have no interest in testing another one.

Protected 21700s are not the same size?

I have protected 18650s that for my 18650 flashlights. They looked about the same size as my friend’s unprotected 18650s for his vape.

I wonder if this Lii-40A https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2019-LiitoKala-Lii-40A-21700-4000mAh-Li-Ni-Battery-3-7V-40A-for-Electronic-Cigarette-Mod/217753_32846442786.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.1.776b62287yFsfm fit Convoy 21700

Protected cells are longer and slightly wider due to having to house an extra protection circuit and additional wrapping.

The Lishen will not fit.

Yes those will fit

I think I would rather have cells close to 5000mah instead of 4000mah. Otherwise I’m not seeing a big difference from my 3800mah 18650 cells. Convoy offers the S2+ in 18650 in almost the same brightness of 1800 lumens with the same LED as the 21700 option.

Do all the lithium cells have less capacity the more output they have?

There are no 3800 mAh 18650 cells.