" AB2047 requires every 3D printer sold in California to run a DOJ state-certified “detection algorithm” - a technology that can not reliably exist. If passed, it would pull a tool used in thousands of schools, libraries, labs, and small businesses out from under our communities. "
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Very interesting. Unfortunately California is way too often a bell cow for bad trends in legislation. We can only hope that other jurisdictions can see the serious issues with this kind of law.
it will be soon enough.
even having one, legally, will involve extra registration (like drones)
and “grandfathering” will go away and ID check for filaments will be law.
Hey man…They tax our literal poop. Whether sewage or septic cleanout, or that sh-t monsanto sells back to us. They’re gonna find a way…then it’ll be regulating power tools, cnc’s, table saws, etc…What Cali needs to do is to sign a law that state or municiple politicians MUST live below the average line for the time that they’re in office…government housing, struggle meals, minimum wage, public transit…for all the “my body my rules” BS they put out, they don’t really know much about the people they’re serving. “Growing up poor” is a poor reference point, given massive inflation and housing booms. Instead of developing empathy, they’re legislating for reform based on their childhoods of 10+ years ago.
p.s., these politically charged posts gotta stop, my blood pressure’s going up
Amen… And I get the broader reference…
I can assure you that I will neither confirm nor deny any allegations as to any broader references, to which the existence of will neither be confirmed nor denied.
Ummm, I don’t think you can call them broad or broader.
I watched the 35 minute video from the first post.
I think I’m quite a bit more up to speed on the subject now.
I could not help but think about AI while watching that video. The idea that we would have politicians that don’t have a clue about what it is they’re doing trying to put “guardrails” in place for AI just seems ludicrous.
I understand there’s a lot more to AI but that’s just all the more reason that we can’t allow laws to be rushed when it comes to AI.
If politicians want to start a serious discussion, that’s fine.
Having bills thrown out out on the floor willy-nilly because they think there’s one particular potential problem but they don’t understand what other problems their bill might create is just not a good road to go down.
And the same goes for random extremely vague doomsday threats from the public about ai and corporations and data centers being all bad, bad and bad.
Yes there will indeed be problems and some will be bad. But we need to proceed very slowly with a lot of conversation before just put the brakes on and fully stopping any and all technology.
Someone needs to sniff the back’n’forth to “verify” anything, and have a dummy server (raspberry pi, etc.) just send back an “okeedokie!” response.
3D printing is not a crime
… unless you do it in public, and the “printer” is you. 
But more seriously, I suspect we’re all in agreement on this. Nobody wants to have to get approved by some corporate AI every time they try to use a printer. It’s full of problems, and has little to no benefit, and mostly just serves to erode people’s rights and give more power to those who already have too much.
If we want things to start getting better instead of worse, it’s important to talk about this stuff. Especially in places which traditionally have avoided politics. It’s uncomfortable, but … it’s supposed to be. That’s what gets people to do something about it. People don’t fight back when they’re comfortable.
Most people adopt the “not my problem until it is” mentality. People would rather place judgement on those who act out rather than helping to prevent such issues in the first place…same with those who say nice things at funerals, but never to the person who the funeral is being held for.
The general duplicity of people…I’m sure you’ve heard the whole “nice but not kind vs. kind but not nice” thing before…I’d rather someone cursing me out while actively helping than someone who verbally sympathizes but keeps walking past. However, both kind and nice would be ideal; another Mr. Rogers would be great right about now.
It wouldn’t be the first time ca did this.
They passed the “microstamping” law back in 2007. Not only was the tecnology impossible to implement back then, fast forward almost 20 years, it still can’t be widely implemented and results in a blanket ban.
Which in reality was likely the intent from the start. With the printing situation, yes it is a slippery slope. Who knows what thing they may decide we can’t have in the future. Which is in addition to all of the additional issues presented in the video. When there is something that manufacturers, academia, and the ACLU all agree on legislators should take it seriously. Apparently, at least in CA, they don’t care about the realities. But rather, only their agenda. Control and disarm the population at any cost to their rights and security.
This would be illegal in the US
I am quite sure the traffic will be encrypted in some way. This won’t be a simple as just sending some code back… unfortunately.
It’s only illegal if you get caught.
A Pi0 or Pi0W could be loaded with the sw anyone could get if sailing The High Seas.
Now try catching them…
The harder you squeeze your fist, the more that slips through your fingers. Squeezing harder doesn’t “get” any more; it just drives it deeper underground to make it harder to get any.
Hi everyone, I don’t mean to take sides on this issue or try to sway anybody’s opinion. And I appreciate that so far the discussion here has been civil. But experience has shown that this sort of topic never ends up well on this forum. So although I’m allowing the discussion to remain visible thanks to the absence of misbehavior so far, it is now closed. I’m sorry I can’t allow for a more middle-of-the-road approach, but the risks are greater than the benefits. Thanks for understanding.