Yepp…it will be offered from Fenix Germany. 
Thank you Njoerch for your effort. I will sit this one out.
I commend Fenix for their willingness to do this.
I hope to see a different offering in the future.
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I haven’t heard the name Surefire for a while, some bonehead thought that would be a good name for a product that uses Li-Ion batteries.
The US website for Fenix shows this light only comes in black with several tacticool designs offered on the barrel. But no orange offerings, I guess this light isn’t for me.
I understand this is a “budget” forum, but we’re not talking about some $500 light here. In American dollars it’s around $120?? For everyone with strictly budget lights, maybe it would be worth splurging a little and trying something different, more high end. Why keep buying a bunch of similar lights for $20-50 over and over again?? It gets a little old and stale.
For example, it’s like having no problem buying 10 Toyota Corolla’s but scoffing at the price of a Toyota Supra. You ask me, I’ll gladly trade in the 10 Corolla’s for a Supra…but maybe that’s just me.
If people can’t afford a $120 light but won’t bat an eye at one for $45, then something tells me they are very poor at managing their money and god forbid something happens in their life where they need a quick $500.
It’s extremely easy to save money and cut back on things you don’t really NEED to save a little money to buy yourself something nice. Cut back on Starbucks/Dunkin. Don’t order out for lunch/dinner as often, cut back on alcohol or other “stimulants”, cancel some streaming services, etc.
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I see, that in fact that the problems in the TLF are the same problems here in the BLF.
For sure…a project with Olight or Acebeam for the same price would have much more ppl which are interested in of it.
From my perspective.. I wrote to really much flashlight companies for different flashlights, we’ll see in which direction this will go…
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I would normally agree, but without knowing each person’s situation, I’d be hesitant to provide such life advice…it could come across as “if you’re homeless…just…buy a house…”.
Assuming that we all have some form of disposable income, not all of us were taught financial discipline and literacy. We’re programmed how to SPEND money, how to be stingy, how to be frivolous, but no one ever really teaches how to SAVE. This next sentence is a GENERAL statement, and if someone feels attacked, perhaps on some level, subconscious or otherwise, you might feel that it pertains to you. That said, it’s not a classism thing here at BLF. That was one part of a whole issue that caused a split at CPF and branched to this site, let’s not have that BS happen here.
For the most part, I feel like this next battery of statements embodies the sentiment of most BLFers in regards to “limited collaborations”:
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It should be special, but not necessarily exclusive in form or function. General accessibility would be encouraged as a key precept in design, with a conscious bias towards enthusiasts (case in point, cusomized drivers with custom firmware and user tunable settings/hardware.)
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It should offer a high objective value, based on the above statement, especially when compared with mainstream brands and models. I’m wondering how many brands made their name based on enthusiast influence or actual user input? <— rhetorical question, the answer is EVERY SINGLE ONE. If a brand becomes exclusively boutique, it becomes unattainable for the average BLFer, and thus loses a “budget” status. If it becomes inexpensive but maintains decent quality, it’s right up our alley. if it drops in cost AND appreciable quality, well…then they should put a random word and tack on hwa/wys fire on it.
Horses for courses, but grass is grass. If it looks greener on the other side, perhaps raise your DUV and get some better CRI.
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If they cannot or will not ship to the US…I suppose any further comments by me (and other US based enthusiatsts) will be pretty useless.
I appreciate your efforts and good luck with the project. If it turn out we can get whatever ends up being chosen here in the US, let me know.
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This is entirely not the reason why i am skipping this one and your comment is in poor taste. I don’t know who you are preaching to here. I think lots of people here own expensive lights just as well they do cheap ones. If your purpose was to get me to buy this special flashlight, you have utterly failed to do so.
I still think njoerch did a very commendable job getting this together. You cannot just expect everyone to go with it, reasons of money or otherwise.
I shall remain eager and await the next offering for a BLF/TLF edition flashlight.
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I’m not singling anybody out or preaching, just stating that there are many ways around worrying about the cost of something IF you really want it. The minimal difference of under $100 or so, is easy to make up for and not hurt your wallet, by cutting back in other ways. I have nothing to do with this light, I live in the US and can’t even get it if I wanted it! I work hard for my money, as I’m sure many folks do and don’t like seeing people think something is out of their price range when really, it’s not as difficult as it may seem.
It makes sense in my head, but maybe doesn’t come off as nice through text. I meant well. Oh well.
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I would appreciate a collab that makes the light a little more special, otherwise it’s just a consumer test on marketability of new colors. **while I appreciate Olight’s initiative to keep pushing the bar, for a while now the colors game are all theyve been doing…does it offer anything new? anything endearing to the end user? something of sentimental or novel practical value?
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No hard feelings.
I have to say, for a flashlight that suits my criteria and as a special blf/tlf flashlight, 100 euro is really not too much to ask. For the right flashlight, that is. I have bought plenty 100+ euro flashlights.
I would say, if you really wanted this one: maybe we can figure something out to ship it. I would do that if you’d ask me. Would certainly cost you some overseas shipping fee on top though.
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For me this manic scramble for any and every light possible really turned me off.
Initially it was a single interesting and unique budget light with a custom colorway. Now it’s suddenly 2? 3? 4? 5? however many? different lights, so far none of them anything close to that, basically settling for anything that’s offered immediately in a wild panic.
Why the rush? The Chinese holidays are coming either way, so nothing will get produced for quite a while still. Why not take a month or two doing research, maybe trying to sell the idea as a marketing move to the companies, being actually selective about the final outcome.
And either do a thorough survey among the forums and find a happy medium that would satisfy most users or just make a hard decision, take it or leave it, but with well thought out parameters. Instead of this bizarre and chaotic chimera of simultaneously both and neither of the approaches.
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This or just apply the procurement approach, which I suggested a while back: Final Thread for the TLF/BLF-Special Edition of the Sofirn SR23 - #38 by macomako
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like bidding for Govt contracts, lol…it works well! promotes competitive pricing, and lets the client choose the best enthusiastic prospect instead of shotgunning and disappointing all the other ones…
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Well, I do procurement as my day job 
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Sweet, lol…in your professional opinion, do you feel like BLF/TLF has enough “pull” to entice companies to bid?
And this is, why I think about to let all as it is. 
I don’t need to organize any forums special edition flashlight.
I’ve enough flashlight at home, from cheap to german customs.
The idea for the SR23 came from my belly, because it’s a really good light.
Sofirn destroyed it.
I don’t wanted to give up and tried it with Simon and really much other companies.
For the TLF we’ll see what comes next…atm we have a good solution for the first flashlight…we had only one special edition for a long time in 2024 wuth the WK03.
I hate endless discussions and negative comments.
It’s my time, energy and brain that I invest in any idea.
So if you don’t want it, I’m fine with it.
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I’m not long enough here but I know that BLF is one of the brands among flashlight community and together with TLF they form rather unique tandem. Such tandem is surely having a marketing potential. Till today people refer to old designs by “BLF” — some vendors might want get a bit similar association. Request for Information would allow to test waters.
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Sir, I appreciate your idea and respect the energy you are putting into it. But it does not seem to work the way you expected. Well, it’s up to you to: drop it fully, drop BLF, continue as-is or… change something. I was critical to the idea of multiple flashlights instead of just one and I explained why.
I also came with constructive suggestion regarding the “procurement approach”. I was a bit disappointed when you have not replied to it. Still, I don’t turn back on you and I offer my support if you will find it useful.
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I’m being purely objective here, don’t be offended. Some points that might have rubbed some people the wrong way:
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Telling people they have a choice, but then defaulting to an option that had the least votes for simplicity and availability sake.
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Presenting that it was a collaboration, but then stating that TLF already established certain expectations, and also that it was more biased for a European market/availability.
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this statement is less objective, as it is purely speculation: if this subtly strong armed (a.k.a. coercive) approach was used when communicating with suppliers, it could be no surprise that they might be feeling some type of way and made a “minimum order” for just an aesthetic specialty run.
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There are members in the past who have had “little” issue with securing a specialty project, such as the BLF LT-1, the A6, etc. Such a tactic required not only something special, but also an established level of trust and precedent for success. I’m NOT being oppositional to you here, just purely objective: do you have either?
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In the spirit of collaboration, with all the above points taken into consideration, would an effort to be more collaborative and less predirective be more beneficial to such an endeavor?
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