This ^
Serious question as I am not a native English speaker: What means anal-retentive (in this context)?
I shouldn’t have said that, but it means someone who takes comfort and relies heavily in taking inane steps to secure and categorize things. Most would never bother to lock and unlock a light they use to signal or briefly shine with. Doing a lockout on a light would be for storage purposes, as I see it.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
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In the future maybe the pocket clip could be part of the electronic circuitry so that when it’s clipped on your jeans or other place the circuit breaks and can’t be accidentally switched on.
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This is good thread… We needed to discuss this… :+1:
Yes they should!
Such lights already exists and don’t got to have two stupid switches…
Exactly!
I agree… Their engineers just slap low quality components with thousands of function and they miss important thing in front of their noses: Safety!
This is is so funny even google translator can’t translate this for me :laughing: :
Tactical use of flashlights? That is huge area, and we could write a book about that. For me tactical light means only one mechanical tailcap switch, selected modes(in my case single mode or 100 mode only), lock-out feature, and twist to turn feature.
We could actually have safely locked out flashlight with easy twist to turn on mode. So it is locked out and ready to fire up but with twist to turn move. I don’t know about your lights with “side switch” guys but I am using that kind of lights for “my tactical purpose”.
Good luck with side switches… :+1:
Isn’t it obvious that an exposed switch can be activated when worn in a pants pocket? If not, why do you think it can’t happen? If yes, why putting such a light unlocked in the pocket?
Speaking of tactical flashlights, what do our law enforcement officers and the like use....do they have flashlights with side switches....do they face the same potential probs?
Also, I've been hanging out to say this to lighten up the mood (pun) ....
I get turned on easy, do I have a problem Too?
Side or tail?
dude you were in the middle of a business meeting, that has nothing to do with tactical situation, not even close, and calling people morons for using common sense, now that is rich.
IMHO, if you want to be 100% safe, buy a Maglite.
I’m not sure that would look so good if you’re pocket-carrying it in a business meeting. Could lead to a visit from HR.
Mine universally go bingo bango bongo. We’re a happy Frank Sinatra-loving family. 
No hard feelings Rusty. I absolutely am very meticulous when it comes to using things safely, even at the expense of convenience. Others may have taken offense to your comment, but I did not. A thorough discussion and a good venting is healthy for the mind. Lots of good pros and cons brought up in this thread. When its all said and done we have choices, Know your own preferences and buy product designs that fit your needs.
:+1: 
Totally true. I guess it mainly comes down to the way in which we go about using our lights and the predicaments we find ourselves in. I knew perfectly well what could have happened and just chose to look past it. And thus, the issue should prompt further consideration in light design and user intention.
Wellp, as I already mentioned, they carry their lights in holsters. Same as with extra ammo, OC spray, baton, etc.
Anyone wants to go all “tactical”, get one-a those Bat Utility Belts.
Oh, and don’t forget the fingerless gloves.
’Fcourse, you might not be let into the office anymore, but you’ll certainly look “tactical”. 
Interesting and glad that you are fine…
How about this…
If you do not want your phone to ring while you are resting. Put it to silent mode.
If that phone does not support silent mode, don’t buy it…
And if you need your phone to ring while you are resting, accept it…
Amen to common sense !
So it’s too much to ask of a manufacturer to make a jacket pocket light without a protruding side switch that gets bumped on inside a pocket?
I burned my tongue while sipping hot coffee this morning. I’m outaged by the fact that coffee makers are making coffee so hot. Hot coffee should be banned.
Also, I think people who let their coffee cool before drinking it are anal retentive morons.
[quote=Rusty Joe]
The light has memory mode so you can shut it off in low. The light has a lockout feature, electronic, or you can loosen the tail cap. But you don’t want to do any of those three things to prevent a hot pocket. Certainly you’re aware of conversations here and other places where lights have unintentionally turned on while in pockets or other means of carry. Therefore calling this an accident is not really accurate because you knew and know that it can happen. I also take issue with your statement about electronic lockout primarily being used for storage. Some manufacturers recommend removing the battery if the light is going to be put into storage. And I know you have at least one light where the instructions recommend loosening the tail cap when you’re not using it. I view the electronic lockout to be used to keep kids and/or others that shouldn’t be able to turn it on or various unsafe carry methods. But certainly not for storage. I carry 2 lights everyday and both occasionally have unintentional activations. But I wouldn’t want the switches to be significantly harder to operate because I want to turn them on easily with either hand in any weather with any type of gloves on. And I don’t want momentary on and I don’t want to have to twist anything. So I would suggest that you change your habits or change your lights. You can complain to the manufacturers but I believe you’re going to be in the minority. Most people do not want switches that are hard to operate on their EDC lights. And the manufacturers know that.