Any Suspicious Observers members here?

Just wondering how many people follow Ben Davidson here. I have been watching Ben for over 7 years now and find his work to be very important to what’s happening to our sun and earths magnetic field. His research investigating solar activity, earthquakes, astrophysics and weather is nothing short of amazing! If you do not know who he is this is where you can learn about his work.

Wow 7 years. That’s got to be long enough to see if any of his predictions have come true. Lots of other people in that field have made predictions and all of them have been wrong.

Here is a good breakdown of how solar forcing works and what the upcoming Grand Solar Minimum actually means: Are we headed for a Grand Solar Minimum? - YouTube

It’s been long enough to determine who is right and who is lying about the truth and for reasons I understand but do not get. Congresswoman Kathy Castor has been trying to shut Ben’s site down because as it’s always been, control the truth to control the situation and outcome.

Climate change/ solar forcing/ ice age. CLIMATE FORCING | Our Future is Cold - YouTube

Hmm, that’s a new one to me.

I was thinking of a bald guy in black suit who would pile on the pepper to anything he ate.

Waiting eagerly for the next maximum, I’m overdue for an aurora-watching vacation.

Me to. Will rent an electric car there for not contributing to greenhouse gases.

I recently turned 70 and I can remember my teachers talking about a coming ice age back in elementary school.

Ice age? Grade School? Don’t be ridiculous:-) :smiley: Before “global warming” became a thing - here’s some real headlines from a few years back.
(thought I’d share, not looking to debunk anything, just remember it’s best to keep our history in our memories.)


Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age - Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970)

Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970)

New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970)

Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (The Argus-Press, January 26, 1970)

Pollution’s 2-way ‘Freeze’ On Society (Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970)

Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970)

Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970)

Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (The Boston Globe, April 16, 1970)

Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970)

U.S. and Soviet Press Studies of a Colder Arctic (The New York Times, July 18, 1970)

Dirt Will Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970)

Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground (Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971)

Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age (The Schenectady Gazette, March 22, 1971)

Pollution May Bring Ice Age - Scientist Rites Risk (The Windsor Star, March 23, 1971)

U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming (The Washington Post, July 9, 1971)

Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971)

Danger: Ice age may lurk in dusty skies (The Christian Science Monitor, July 12, 1971)

New Ice Age Coming - It’s Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971)

Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971)

Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age (Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971)

Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972)

Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972)

Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May 29, 1972)

Ice Age Coming (Deseret News, September 8, 1972)

There’s a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September 9, 1972)

Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972)

British Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere (Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972)

Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (The portsmouth Times, ‎September 11, 1972‎)

New Ice Age Slipping Over North (The Press-Courier, September 11, 1972)

Beginning of new ice age (The Canberra Times, September 12, 1972)

Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North (The Age, September 12, 1972)

Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, ‎September 12, 1972‎)

British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972)

Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972)

Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972)

Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters - Sees Ice Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December 13, 1972)

Ice Age On Its Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December 13, 1972)

Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmouth Times, December 14, 1972)

New Ice Age coming? (Popular Science, January 1973)

The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973)

Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1973)

‘Man made Ice Age’ Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June 22, 1973)

Fear Of Man-made Ice Age (The Spartanburg Herald, June 28, 1973)

Possibility Of Ice Age Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November 12, 1973)

Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way (The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)

Ominous Changes in the World’s Weather (PDF) (Fortune Magazine, February 1974)

Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming?‎ (Pittsburgh Press, February 28, 1974)

Support for theory of a cooling world (The Canberra Times, May 16, 1974)

New evidence indicates ice age here (Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974)

Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June 24, 1974)

2 Scientists Think ‘Little’ Ice Age Near (Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974)

Ice Age, worse food crisis seen (Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974)

Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Times, November 14, 1974)

Making a BBC Science Special [The Weather Machine] (New Scientist, November 14, 1974)

The Weather Machine (BBC, November 20, 1974)

New ice age ‘could be in our lifetime’ (The Canberra Times, November 22, 1974)

Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says (Beaver Country Times, ‎December 4, 1974‎)

Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, ‎December 5, 1974‎)

More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel, ‎December 5, 1974‎)

Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 5, 1974)

Climate Changes Called Ominous (The New York Times, January 19, 1975)

Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities (Science News, March 1, 1975)

B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon? (Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975)

Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, ‎March 2, 1975‎)

Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade (Youngstown Vindicator, ‎March 2, 1975‎)

Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975)

New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, ‎March 2, 1975‎)

There’s Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tri City Herald, ‎March 2, 1975‎)

Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian, ‎March 3, 1975‎)

The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975)

The Cooling World (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)

Cooling trend may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May 16, 1975)

Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Change May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May 21, 1975)

Summer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June 5, 1975)

In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (International Wildlife, July-August, 1975)

Experts ponder another ice age (The Spokesman-Review, September 8, 1975)

Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal entinel, December 11, 1975)

Deadly Harvest [Film] (Starring: Kim Cattrall, Clint Walker, 1976)

The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book] (Lowell Ponte, 1976)

Ice Age Predicted (Reading Eagle, January 22, 1976) Ice Age Predicted In Century (Bangor Daily News, January 22, 1976) I

It’s Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From Now (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January 23, 1976)

Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News & World Report, May 31, 1976)

Blizzard - What Happens if it Doesn’t Stop? [Book] (George Stone, 1977)

The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact Team, 1977)

The Ice Age Cometh… (New York Magazine, January 31, 1977)

The Big Freeze (Time Magazine, January 31, 1977)

Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, February 1, 1977)

Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February 7, 1977)

Sunspot lull may bring on new ice age (The Christian Science Monitor, March 30, 1977)

OMG! I actually remember reading that exact article back then, Damn I feel old now! :smiley:

I also discovered this channel from someone recommending it to me. An ice age would mean the end of the world as we know it, if you look at all prosperous periods in history its when the temperature is warmer.

I am hoping the Wooly Mammoth makes a return …

Links on the source page.

It’s started: Hello Solar Cycle 25

More, with quotations:

WOW! It amazes me that people still think Global warming is a real thing. Al Gore did a great job! In order to prove a subject is real you must first try and disprove it which has been done with Global Warming. The human carbon foot print accounts for 2% of what’s happening to our planet. The other planets in our solar system are changing as well, no human involvement there. and when we are talking about climate change we are talking about 1000’s of years not just back in the 30’s 40’s and 50’s. It’s on a solar system scale that can be seen now clear as day. Its in our weather patterns, seasons are changing, the timing is off, there are places getting hell stones the size of baseballs, floods, droughts, hurricanes… and at a more frequent rate. Anyone remember all the birds falling dead out of the sky and fish washing up on shore by the thousands? Its still happening but not being reported anymore. They use earths magnetic fields to navigate so when that course changes they no longer arrive where they are suppose to be going because the poles are moving at an unreal pace right now. Our north and south poles are hell and gone from there original location. The north pole right now is headed for Siberia moving now at 50 kilometers a year, that’s 446 feet a day and speeding up! The South pole is on the move as well, our airports around the world are constantly recalibrating there equipment so aircraft don’t get lost. Sounds like a move right, it’s a natural cycle of our planet that our children will most likely be a witness too. Think just for a moment if you knew this was happening and you where the leader of a country. Would you tell the people? No! because it would collapse your economy within a week, crappy yes but realistic. What about the seed vault located in Norway? Conspiracy? government underground shelters? Earths magnetic shield is down by 22% now, that’s what keeps earth safe from all the dangerous rays we are surrounded by. The Heliosphere is declining… anyone seeing a pattern here? In the last 4 ice ages it heats up before it gets cold like a big storm trapping in heat before it starts. There is absolutely no way to protect 7 billion people on this planet so what do you do? You protect civilization the best why you can. No fear mongering here just real science! Do people still think an asteroid killed the dinos? If so please explain how a wholly mammoth was found frozen with food still in its mouth while eating and it’s not the only animal found this way. I’m sure he was not cryogenically frozen. This is nothing new, at all. There is so much more going on then a simple climate change subject here, it’s about preserving humanity and you cant save 7 billion! Noah’s Arch! I could keep going till I’m blue in the face or my fingers go numb, you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it…. 30+ years of research. I am not a very articulate person so I explain the best way I can. Take it for what it is and as I tell everyone, find your own truth because there is where the wisdom lies.

I think we have already passed the recent solar minimum, and no sign of a mini ice age.

I suppose global heating could one day shut down the the thermohaline circulation in the North Atlantic, and if that then shut down the gulfstream, parts of Europe could get rather chilly. But experts seem to agree that is unlikely, at least for the foreseeable…

What, no love for the magnificent Woolly Rhinocerous?

Been there, done that, moved on to reality, life is short and flashlights are fun :wink:

I read an article about that very thing just an hour ago. Tragedy it is too. But nothing to do with poles shifting…

“Historic wildfires across the western states of the US could mean they had to re-route their migration away from resource-rich coastal areas and move inland over the Chihuahuan desert, where food and water are scarce, essentially meaning they starved to death. “They’re literally just feathers and bones,” Allison Salas, a graduate student at NMSU who has been collecting carcasses, wrote in a Twitter thread about the die-off. “Almost as if they have been flying until they just couldn’t fly any more.” ”

Any of these weather events may have triggered birds to start their migration early, having not built up sufficient fat reserves. Another theory is that the smoke from the wildfires may have damaged their lungs. “It could be a combination of things. It could be something that’s still completely unknown to us,” said Salas.

It could be something that’s still completely unknown to us,” said Salas.

I can see I may have opened up Pandora’s box here lol. It’s ok because I can’t expect anyone who does not spend decades researching this vast subject to understand other then the occasional article or news broadcast they view. With every subject such as this there will always be some PHD, Expert, Professor, Physicist…. with 20 different findings or truths for every subject known. This is one of many of humanities problems and beauties, the ability to agree to disagree no matter what the subject is. In the late words of Lenard Neomi, Fascinating!

That’s a pretty big presumption you are making there.

As far as global heating goes, there is actually an overwhelming scientific consensus.

Ben Davison is the Electric Universe fellow, isn’t he?