All points valid for a good discussion, thanks for the input Dale. You have teached me most of what I have learned about flashlights, and I hope to continue learning. I have 3 points to state about this:
- If I have access to internal drawings of X5 and X6 (and maybe A6) I could try and post the redesigned head with the threads included.
- Heat dissipation of M2 looks pretty similar of the proposed light. Both of them will be definetely better than heat dissipation of A6. If A6 takes the amperage and heat from a 18650, this one will only handle it better. Heat dissipation is all about the surface area of the fins. We could reduce the fin thickness and improve heat dissipation if that’s necessary but if it isn’t need on A6 I have my doubts if this is needed here.
- I don’t think aestethics play an important role to design of this new light, we pursue other things. But I think it is still prettier than M2. M2 is bigger in lenght than X6 and is far from being optimized in size as this one is proposing. Performance should be similar than M2 if both were FET driven and had XP-L HI, but not the size.
I did not say anyone was wrong, I merely stated my experience with the said lights and gave my opinion as to why it would be a wasted venture. As you yourself are stating your own opinion. Like I said, go ahead and build it.
Crossing borders between Eagle Eye and Manker will be problematic enough in it’s own right. But perhaps Steve could pull that off.
Wondering why the attack PD? A different approach may well have had me out on the lathe turning out a prototype…as if I don’t have anything to do already anyway. Whatever. Good luck.
I agree with this, the OD of the battery tube of my 16650 EagleTac D25C2 mini is 20mm, exactly the same OD of my X5 Cu (the X5 is actually a few thousandth larger)
For a 16650 X5 the head should be able to remain the same size as it currently is as far as it’s thickness for the new threads.
But is there a High Drain IMR 16650 battery? I could only find an ICR rated 5a vs 6.5a for the efest IMR14500.
And even if there is a high drain that’s one more cell size that we would have to buy and keep around. If that’s the case then no thanks I’ll spend my money elsewhere.
A valid point granted but some of us already have 16650 and 16340 cells and this would allow for 6V mods as well or stubby mods with a short tube. Chances are you will have it your way in any case and I’ll have to wait awhile longer for something more different than another P60 size light which is what this is shaping up to be. In which case I’ll be spending mine elsewhere.
2 days ago they have replied sending me pictures of the X6 tube assembled on theirs X5 head (my falt, I didn’t know they had another product labeled X5 - it’s a 25mm diameter flashlight).
Then I replied with my renderings and explaining about the BLF X5 head version (31mm diameter) on the X6 body 18650 tube.
Today I have received this message: “I’m very interested in this matter.How many do you want?”
I’ll ask about minimum order quantity and prices then I’ll report back.
Well, I’m glad they were merely confused, not angry somehow.
This is very good indeed. I trust EE’s quality and QC, Hopefully they can keep the aesthetics consistent with the original (as that is much of the draw for me).
Yes to be sure start an interest list now that the topic is not so long.
Please put me on it, Eagle Eye is very good quality and getting wrongs right is worth a lot too!
