I hope anyone with this light considers Texas Ace’s mods. Terry picked the right guy to be sure!
It is now a work of art…like an insane Q8!
I’m totally impressed with my resurrected XHP35 MT09R with its new TA driver & 80cri C4 bin 4500k XHP35 HI LEDs!!!
I’ve haven’t been a real fan of ramping UIs in the past, but started to be won over by the D4 because it gave a decent indication of significant points with blinks and the ability to do a quick head twist to chose maximum regulated mode. I really vacillated on the 50 or 100% ramping option on the TA MT09R driver, and am now so glad I went with 50! This makes so much sense, at least for the way my mind works (or doesn’t, at times). It looks like this light will now be left in ramping, unlike with the original Haikelite driver, which got changed to modes in about 5 minutes.
One question for @Texas_Ace about the revision of Narsil (M?) used with this driver. The previously referenced BLF Q8 cheat sheet was for Rev 1.2, but if I do the blinky firmware verification routine on my TA MT09R, I get a revision 1.3 indication. I believe there was a Narsil(pre M) v1.3, but thought the current NarsilM branch hadn’t got above 1.2, yet?
Thanks for the kind words, glad you like the results!
Yes, those 4500k LED’s are a fantastic tint, I ordered some HD versions for my own light.
Glad you like the ramp, I literally spent 20+ hours perfecting it, a small change can require starting over completely. Plus the FET that HL wanted to use at the start was inconsistent in the low modes at different temperatures and caused me all sorts of problems until I figured that out. I think the time was worth it in the end.
It is indeed running the latest NarsilM 1.3. The cheatsheet has just not been updated for 1.3 because most of the changes were on the back end and not visible to the user. I also tweaked a few items for the massive power of these lights with the help of DEL.
The functions should all be the same though. Except for possibly momentary mode (5 clicks), not sure if that is on the cheat sheet. I love that mode.
I also agree that the 50% ramping makes sense on many levels. It saves a lot of battery power and vastly improves battery life. It vastly reduces the heat of the light. It reduces the wear on the LED’s themselves and visually it only appears ~25% dimmer then full turbo due to the way our eyes work.
I like being able to ramp it all the way up and know it is not going too extreme. In fact I generally like my personal lights setup so the ramp stops at about what the light can handle long term without thermal regulation kicking in. Then turbo for when I need it.
My father has been gone about 4 years now and he was an engineer. One lesson I learned from him was if you must find someone that knows more than you... "Always find the best at what they do."
Ot worked for him for my entire life.
Lol I can't let TA have all the fun. www.youtube.com/embed/S-vQx3VxJiQ
lol, I was planning on that exact thing for my follow up video. Most likely still will.
I had someone bragging about how easy it is to get most modern LED lights to do this. LOL I beg to differ. Many will even single emitter 1200 lumen lights will. I have accidentally turned on slammer lights like one of the Rofis models that had the 45 degree turning head I use to carry to work. But, it took it like 10 minutes to start melting the nylon holster. But this monster takes about 10 seconds to begin smoking and about 15 seconds and the paper is on fire. LOL and that is not a single sheet of paper it is a newspaper double folded so four layers LOL and still flames in 15 seconds...
I have not taken any pictures yet but outside here at my house in turbo it just lights up half the block...
We are going to Arizona on the 17th and I am going to ship my 09R 70.2 out there ahead of me along with some spare cells and one of my chargers. There will be some very large wide open places out there that I can get some really nice pictures...
BAWWWWW my XHP35 TA MT09R only makes a little smoke, not fire! Looks like I’ll just have to keep using my trusty old incandescent SureFire 12ZM or M6 for that until the new XHP70.2 MT09R arrives.
Hey guys.
Okay after over a week of negotiating I finally have some MT09R 70.2 lights on the way.
This was not at all easy to accomplish. The company did not want to ship out any at all until after the new driver has been completed and installed in the lights.
That will still be several weeks from now, so I have been working on this for the last week and here is the arrangement I was able to finally accomplish.
First, I would like to ask if we could all no longer say modify when we are referring to the driver. Yes, TA is hand assembling these drivers himself (Thanks very much for that by the way) but, the design will be exactly the same once Haikelite begins producing the drivers themselves in 5 possibly 6 more weeks. So, the driver actually will be the same as the stock driver. I had some one mention to me on YouTube that my video was a modified version and it is not at all. My personal light even still has stock NW emitters. Haikelite has contracted TA for this driver design and as long as the exact plans are followed the drivers should be the same. So as far as the driver is concerned it really is not a mod we are just lucky enough to have the designer building us enough of them for us himself.
Now emitter swap out sure that is totally a modification.
Now on to the good parts.
I am only getting 30 units total and only 2 colors. The 2 colors are Blue and Green.
I will be getting 15 of each of them and all are shipping with only NW Neutral White emitters which actually perform far better than the CW Cool white emitters did. The reason is just as TA suspected they are a much higher quality. I just wanted to be sure everyone knows this while making decisions.
TA naturally has access to even higher bin and quality emitters that still perform even better than the stock NW.
My personal 70.2 for now I have left the stock NW emitters and I am easily getting 20k lumen. TA has a wide variety to offer that are getting into 22k lumen and a little above.
I am not sure how well everyone understands wholesale, but I am sure that TA can agree with this. By them only allowing me to order 30 units total instead of 75 to 100 units I lose about a 30 percent discount I would be getting for purchasing more units. So, the price will be a little more but really not much more and still nowhere close to full retail.
Being that all of the lights are the same except for the color choice the price will be the same. And Dale is going to go nuts when he reads this. The price is $120.00 and that includes my shipping costs to TA. After shipping I will clear about 14 to 18 dollars per unit and PayPal still gets a nice little cut of that so that will put me closer to 12 per unit.
All of this shipment will come to me without drivers. I saw no need at all to have the old driver installed only to have it removed.
You can still request shipping directly to you and order the driver from TA and you can install in yourself if that is an option some of you may want.
Also I do have I think 4 or 5 of the original drivers in my repair stock if someone wants to just have the original driver installed.
I already have the lights entered into my stores inventory and it is simple there are only 2 choices. The color, green or blue. All emitters are the same.
Please make sure that you send me a PM or email at hesaidshesaidsales@charter.net and let me know where you want your light shipped. Please include your full name and address as it will show on your PayPal account.
I will begin shipping all orders out on the same day which is the 18th. That is as fast as I could get them here and that cost a ton by the way.
If I have forgotten anything please feel free to ask but, I think I have covered most of what may be asked at least my part of it lol.
By the way I asked Texas Ace about international shipping and he is willing to ship outside of just the US and Canada provided the customer pays the shipping. So now a lot of you guys that wanted in on these deals can be included as well...
Here is the URL directly to the purchase page https://hesaidshesaidsales.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fhaikelite-mt09r-triple-cree-702
I received my MT09R yesterday, took some quick compare beamshots!
from L to R: Thrunite TN40Svn(Mod), Niwaker MM18III, Haikelite MT09R (Mod), Acebeam X45 70.2 NW
The camera manual set WB 5000k, F1.7, 1/10 s
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D4 XPL-HI 3A (for reference)
BLF Q8 (for reference)
TN40Svn- 4x XHP35-HI 5000k(8700 lm, 500k cd)
Niwaker MM18III
Haikelite MT09R (Mod)- 3x XHP70.2 4000k 80+CRI (22k lm, ?? cd)
Acebeam X45 70.2 NW
Very nice, you can light up everything a little with the small flooders. You can light up one thing a lot with the throwers or light up EVERYTHING with the mt09R. lol
Here’s some ceiling bounce results that reinforces that statement. My 5000k MT09R 70.2 measures 2,170 lux vs 4000k MT09R 70.2 at 1,640 lux. That’s 32% more performance. But the 4000k 80CRI tint is WAAYYY better though.
Thanks Charles Lin for your EXCELLENT beamshot comparison! I like how you turned off auto exposure so we can get a sense of the relative difference in brightness.
Very nice beam shots... Thanks for sharing those.
Well I got the lights and all in the 2 best selling colors from the group buy. Half are green and half are blue.
Ordering only 30 units cut profits pretty hard but I only added 20 dollars. After shipping and good old PayPal my cut is 10 to 12 dollars.
If I could mark them any lower and still make anything I would I love seeing these results.
Holy moly, that thing is bright… like your tn40svn, mt09r, and x45… charles, are you in san diego area?
Yeah, the camera auto mode tends to take over exposure beamshot, meaning the flashlight will looks much brighter on photo than actually.
Yes, I live ln SD most of the time. your p2 5700k mt09r will brighter than my 4000k 80CRI for sure. TA did a great job modding this light, he turns all flaws into advantage: low bin LED> HCRI, defect driver>NarsilM v1.2 TA driver. :+1:
Somehow I am unable to see any beamshots or any links to them. If I try to open the links what are shown in the source code of your post, the link will not open up.
I took the camera out very early this morning and shot a little video footage of the 70.2 version with the final version of TA's driver and in my own light for now I am using stock NW emitters. a touch over 22k lumen.
I am sorry for some of the video being shot through a fence that should have been left open for me be someone dropped the ball and everything was locked. I will pick another area and shoot some more maybe tonight if there is a chance...
www.youtube.com/embed/h_UxJRRooKE
me too … :question: