I asked him for a zirconium flashlight he said he’ll talk to the manufacturer
I kind of forgot to say I would like a zirconium version of the m21f, but realistically, if anything happens, I have a feeling it’ll probably be a s7 not m21f
Hmmm sounds a little too premium for the Convoy brand, if it does happen it will probably be pretty rough from skipping machine steps to bring down cost.
I’d be willing to pay around $120 for an zirconium s7 .
A rough estimate puts that below or at the raw material cost alone.
Not really. If he buys in bulk he would pay way less.
You can make several lights with that
If he bought a whole bundle of those rods it would cost like $30 per light for the material. I’m talking about a narrow light like s7 not L7
With 18mm diameter you’re not making a single light…
25mm is the very minimum for a S2/6/7 style light, that puts you at ~2x the material for the same length already.
I’m no CNC technician, but I guess Zircon needs slower machine speeds and more expensive milling tools than most common flashlight materials, too.
Simons prices come, in large part, from the fact that he makes large numbers of easy to make parts. Zircon is not easy to machine, and it would sell in tiny numbers, so his main price advantage compared to most upper price range boutique brands is gone.
I still doubt it’d be feasible for that price.
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This isnt really a flashlight related suggestion, but more so a website issue. I went onto convoy website recently and a minor issue came up for me. I dont know if its just me but i cant find any measurements for the LED MCPCB and driver diameters in the flashlight descriptions or the spec tables. That is even the case if i select host only. I believe adding measurements in the descriptions would be really beneficial eg. “This host requires a diameter 17mm driver and a 16mm LED MCPCB” its a small thing to edit but it would be a great help for anyone who is considering buying the light to mod it or make it up from a host, it will help them decide what the host is compatible with. Again really minor issue but it would be nice to have.
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I think you might be right. I was just looking around and I noticed that about the cheapest flight made out of zirconium that I could find, is Reylight, and that one is about 300.
I was really hoping that somebody would make a flashlight that can sustain over 800 lumens without dimming, but also be completely made out of zirconium, I really like my m21f
I’d be willing to pay more than $120, I could probably do $300, just like the ray light, but I definitely cannot do $800 or more
Excellent suggestion, added!
Couldnt agree more 
Anyhow.. Is Convoy T8 requires 15mm led mcpcb or am i missing something..
I concur with this, i would love to see driver, switch, and MCPCB size compatibility while looking at a lights description section.
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It is some decent work perhaps required on the back end of the website, yes, but I’m also completely for expanded search functions.
As an example, I’d love to be able to search for GT FC40 and get a list of light hosts that are compatible (Simon offers) with that emitter. Unfortunately for my bank account, I try to “collect” at least one light with every enthusiast-cpass mainstream emitter. So that would only hasten my obsession.
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In case it helps: At least for 4500k CCT and IME, Convoy’s latter GT-FC40 LEDs look green and nothing like the beautiful first batch. Someone on this forum PM’ed me with the problem; I wasn’t sure, then found out for myself. The light I bought in 2024 looks nothing like the four I bought earlier, when the LED came out around 2022.
I called the first batch “Nichia imitator” because the rosy-magenta tint is similar to 219b 4500k (not the same, but close). To this day, for me the best (or only?) mid-throw mid-output LED with Nichia tint. The latter batch looks nothing like it.
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With tongue in cheek I’m not that much of a tint snob to care. The gt fc40 was just an example. I appreciate the info nonetheless. In the past few years I’ve only actually purchased 2 lights that are above 5000K so I guess I’m a kelvin snob with a CRI fetish. Whitewalls don’t exist out in the field, just a crap ton of browns that I need to distinguish between rocks, dirt, desert plants and flesh tones while on a search.
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Hmm interesting. I actually know a few people on this forum who are JUST like you. 
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@PiercingTheDarkness was not the only one that got sharp edges coming from savings on machining quality. That’s the tailcap thread in my brand new S21E MAO grey:
That was the driest grittiest thread I’ve had on a flashlight. As you can see the “grabbing edge” of the thread is also too long and thin so it came deformed, the edge of the tube just below was left very thin so it’s sharp like a razor. Those are all avoidable machining issues. That’s also probably a reason why despite the fact that tailcap is mostly anodised, the mechanical lockout doesn’t work at all, I assume that edge is cutting through the finish making a contact (I know there’s an electronic one but 20 clicks is a lot of wear&tear for the switch).
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Eh…is that all grease?
That is some silicon grease because the gritting was hurting my ears (and an o-ring).
The trick with MAO: de-grease the threads (and remove the o-ring so it doesn’t get chewed up), open/close continuously for a minute or two, clean the threads, then lube. They run buttery smooth after that.
The bad machining of the end of the threads however… Oof.
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I have some polishing compound I work into the threads…had the same issue with a light I recently recieved, it smoothed out the threads substantially.
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