Cool titanium carabiner

[Flacomuchacho]

@Bort

@Flacomuchacho

@Jeansy

@Bort

one of my manufacturing processes classes started with the following
how many of you have an aluminum bicycle post [a few hands go up]
i hate to tell you this but it will eventually crack, aluminum has a fatigue life and will always eventually fail, it must be designed to last at least the expected lifecycle of the product.

Climbing is a lot of loading and unloading with uncalculated forces over an undetermined amount of time, and without an idea of the forces an aluminum part will be subjected to in my opinion it is irresponsible and dangerous to make a climbing carabiner with it.

A little knowledge…… Correctly spec’d, nothing wrong with aluminium

Everytime I’ve been climbing out pf the boulder wall, I’ve been using alu carabiners. And what i really mean is that not just me, but 99% of climbers have been using them for many many years. Not only carabiners, but friends, and other gear are made normally of aluminum, and not just because of the weight. As Jeansy says, if you’re using the right ones (that excludes all the suicidal climbing labelled in dealextreme) there’s not problem at all.

perhaps my opinion is incorrect and they are over engineered enough, i still personally wouldn’t use it, but i will defer to your greater experience

They DO fail, but that’s very, very rare. I’ve only seen a broken one (and luckily the owner lived to show it to me), normally failure comes from the locking mechanism.Most of the accidents come from the weakest spot in the chain, that’s it, the climber (aka, as ALWAYS, the person…). Call it lack of expertise, lack of attention or overconfidence. If used right, alu carabiners are the safest part in an unsafe activity

[leaftye]

I used to climb too. There are pretty good guidelines as to when climbing gear should be retired.

[Flacomuchacho]

@leaftye

I used to climb too. There are pretty good guidelines as to when climbing gear should be retired.

Totally agree. Just think how much more often people get new ropes… and they’re far more expensive than carabiners. And then think all the fun you get with the 20 bucks of the carabiner… in a few times you’ve used it, it’s already been paid. So whenever it starts to look worn out, just get a new one, you are not throwing that away, there are tons of uses for old carabiners which don’t imply risky situations.

[That_Ninja_Guy]

Pledged for a micro bottle opener. I like the design of them.

[Pulsar]

K11 and L66 are my favorites
cant bring myself to spend that much on them though…