Do you believe in UFOs/UAVs/UAPs?

Hey folks, as always i like asking randoms questions on here, so here its is. With all this talk of UFO or as they are now called UAVs in the news and media do you believe in extra terrestrial life? Could some of these sighting be caused by fellow BLF members playing with thrower in the park?
Do you think our governments have this type of technology at hand like UAVs?

I watched the Disclosure project latest press club event and i have been following Steven Greer for a while, plus others in the field.

Something i have always thought about if you did see a UFO/UAV would you bother to tell any one?

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I am willing to entertain the idea of aliens but my gut tells me that there is no proof of them visiting the solar system yet.

For my money, someone knows what these supposedly “unidentified” objects are but aren’t telling. (Assuming we aren’t just discussing a smudge on a lens or an optical illusion)

Sure I do believe in extraterrestrial life. It’s way unlikely that we are the only rock with life of some kind on it in the vast expanses of the Universe.
I don’t believe any of them have shown up here yet, though (keyword: vast Universe).

I doubt, that we are only (intelligent) civilisation in endless space.
Mike

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Hell yeah.
They have been here for a long time. Really believe the Gov’t is slowly releasing dribs and drabs of data getting the masses used to the idea so it’s not such a shock when more is disseminated.
Because of movies and the unknown, we have always been told/shown them to look nothing like earthlings, but why couldn’t they be very similar ?

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I don’t have a yes or no opinion on whether alien life has visited our planet yet, but I do believe that there is intelligent life out there somewhere. Out of the gazillion stars out there it doesn’t make sense to think that ours is the only one with a planet that is capable of hosting life.

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I don’t think that there is any hard evidence that alien life has ever visited Earth.
I also don’t think that there is any hard evidence that there is intelligent life not originating from Earth.
Could there be intelligent life not originating from Earth?
It’s possible.
Because the universe is so large, it’s humanly impossible to prove that there isn’t any intelligent life out there.
But without hard evidence, it’s impossible to prove that there is any intelligent life out there.
It’s quite the conundrum.
I do admit that the whole subject is great for providing entertainment via movies, TV, and the like.
I love me some nice sci-fi.
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I do believe in unidentified flying objects, though.
There are plenty of flying objects that are unidentified. :stuck_out_tongue:

I absolutely dont think there have been UFOs visit earth. If it happened, it would be impossible to hide.

On the other hand, it makes for a good story so thats why you hear alot of stories.

Do you think if there were little green men we would not have captured a few?

Seriously, show me the money.

BTW, as an aside, I would be really disappointed if aliens made themselves known and they were biologically identical to us. Booooring! Safer though probably, we’d have an easier time relating.

I can imagine that some of the brightest minds on this earth think that statistically it would be a miracle if there wasn’t some kind of life on one of the billion stars in any of the billion star systems surrounding us. I also can imagine authorities know this but keep it secret because it could upset the majority of people.
The only thing preventing me from saying this out loud is the fear people would put me in the same bin as Giorgio A. Tsoukalos. Who is capable of seeing the presence of ancient aliens in every rock, tree or structure on this planet.

I agree.

I thought the accepted term now was “UAP” (“Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon”). Regardless, like many I’m entertained by the theories, stories, and legends of the paranormal, extraterrestrial, cryptozoologic. Never had any first hand experiences and don’t take it too seriously, but it’s a fun escape into the “what if(?)”. I’m skeptical about much of so called “evidence” for ET presence on planet Earth, but don’t totally discount it either.

“I want to believe”.

All the time! Look at unknown aircraft overhead and I’m filled with a sense of bewilderment and dread - is that a 747-400 at an odd angle or the rarer A340-600?

In all seriousness … we don’t know. The distances between mere stars within the same neighborhood on a single galaxy are vast. We’ve already got the theoretical technology to travel between stars but the squeeze is tremendous for unknown juice. The Fermi Paradox posits the great likelihood of both there being numerous other intelligent civilizations against the apparent absence of such; this is counterbalanced by The Great Filter whose conclusion is that intelligence eventually extinguishes itself in a self-inflicted disaster or disasters.

Conversely, Arthur C Clarke had some thoughts on the consequences of technological progression some time ago:

If one considers the millions of years of pre-history, and the rapid technological advancement occurring now, if you apply that to a hypothetical alien race, one can figure the probabilities of how advanced the explorers will find them. The conclusion is we will find apes or angels, but not humans.

Here apes will be some flavor of live more primitive than our own and angels intelligence so advanced as to be indistinguishable from magic or perhaps impossible to observe should it choose to avoid us.

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I believe in Urban Assault Vehicles.

If Star Trek taught me anything, they also speak english perfectly.

About the recent news, I just wait and see. I think its either true (military has proof of aliens tech), either it’s some kind of huge politically motivated distraction (like leaking false info or something). Either way it looks conspiratorial. We’ll know one day. Third option is that it’s a combination of naivety, trolling, wishful thinking, and opportunism (personal gain, political, etc.) (edit: and genuine curiosity + valid research)

Astrophysicists and others in the related fields are discovering more and more exoplanets that might harbor life. One recently discovered is likely to have conditions as good or even better than earth for developing life. Given the number of stars in the known universe likely to have solar systems, there’s certainly an extremely high likelihood of extraterrestrial life out there.

The separate question of whether aliens have visited our planet is one that can only be answered, in my opinion, by looking at the reliable, replicable evidence for such an occurrence. And there is no such evidence. Similarly, if you ask me whether there are any flying elephants, I would use the same measure to come up with my answer. There is no reliable evidence for either alien visits or flying elephants.

And we should be grateful for that. A meeting between the human race and a type of being with the technology giving them the ability to travel between solar systems, and maybe between galaxies, while remaining alive, would inevitably result in humanity being quickly eradicated - either purposely, or accidentally through alien microbe infection, or toxic waste left behind by the visitors (read the novel “Roadside Picnic”).

Think about what has happened on earth whenever two civilizations with significantly different levels of technological development meet - it has always ended badly for the less-technologically-advanced group. And with aliens there’d be the other hazards introduced that I mentioned above - germs we aren’t biologically prepared for, technologies that are benign to the aliens but harmful to humans, etc. The fantasy of E.T. makes for a heartwarming movie, but reality would almost certainly be very different.

Absolutely. Look what happened to the native peoples already in the Americas when Europeans found the Americas! If there are more developed aliens out there we should hope they never discover us.

Or if aliens did “discover” earth they were in all likelihood more developed than us, and they wisely studied what was happening on Earth and decided there was no way they wanted any part of us and we were not worth the hassles.

“I believe.”

Chris

Great shows out there that I catch regularly, like “UFO Hunters”, “The UFO Files”, “The Alien Files”, etc., that mix scientific theory and fact, and “apply” it to what could be alien tek.

Eg, Hitler’s obsession with saucer-shaped aircraft, our own Avrocar (more like a hovercraft than aircraft, as it was notoriously impossible to control), etc., that gave way to saucer- and crescent-shaped aircraft.

They also have Big Brains doing analysis, like Michio Kako saying, quite rightly, that the reports of hyu-mon looking aliens would be, to him, the least credible reports. Evolution is determined by environment, which is why some critters can hear infrasound and ultrasound, see into the infrared and ultraviolet (or even be colorblind… or just blind), and sea creatures can sense electric fields. So who’s to say they won’t look like Pak’ma’ra or Xenomorphs instead of Bajorans or Betazoids?

Ages ago, I was in my attic playing with my telescope, and off in the distance to the north, what to me seemed to be right over KLGA, was a perfect sphere, gray, just meandering from west to east. Perfectly level, not ascending as if someone let loose a helium balloon or anything. Way way before metallized-mylar balloons or anything, too. And it was waaaay off in the distance, with the “wavy air” effect on it, so… far.

I later found out that there were/are apparently regular releases of weather balloons that hit a certain level (buoyancy) and just go with the jet-stream over the ocean, and send weather information back. I wasn’t expecting it to be aliens or anything, and was thinking weather-balloon even though it didn’t look like the big baggy kind of balloons that’d only ball out at huge altitudes.

Wellp, it was fun while it lasted.

That said, I’d love to go on those “UFO-spotting” trips.

I just hope I don’t end up like Cartman…

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Personally seen one. Not drunk. Not funny. scary as !@#$. And been there. Can’t be done by man.